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Is the Worst Snow Year in Decades a Climate Story? — Joel Gratz, OpenSnow

28 Apr 2026

Contributed by Lukas

Joel Gratz is Founding Meteorologist and CEO of OpenSnow, a weather platform used by hundreds of thousands of skiers, snowboarders, and outdoor enthus...

Turning Students into Founders at Stanford Climate Ventures

15 Apr 2026

Contributed by Lukas

Dave McColl is Executive Director of Stanford Climate Ventures (SCV), a program designed to help students build climate companies through rigorous go-...

Improving Weather Forecasting with WindBorne

07 Apr 2026

Contributed by Lukas

John Dean is Co-Founder and CEO of WindBorne, a company building next-generation weather balloons and an AI-powered forecasting layer to improve globa...

Alex Blumberg on Turning Buildings into Grid Assets with DaisyChain Energy

01 Apr 2026

Contributed by Lukas

Alex Blumberg is Co-founder and CEO of DaisyChain Energy, a company building a hardware-enabled software platform that turns commercial buildings into...

Inside Rockefeller’s Global Energy Alliance with Ashvin Dayal

17 Mar 2026

Contributed by Lukas

Ashvin Dayal is Senior Vice President for Power and Climate at the Rockefeller Foundation, where he oversees the Global Energy Alliance (GEA), a multi...

Turning Wasted Renewable Power into AI Compute with Rune

17 Feb 2026

Contributed by Lukas

William Layden is Co-founder and CEO at Rune, a company building modular, behind-the-meter micro data centers that plug directly into solar and wind p...

AI Data Centers That Help the Grid with Emerald AI

10 Feb 2026

Contributed by Lukas

Varun Sivaram is Founder and CEO of Emerald AI, a company building software that makes AI data centers power flexible. As AI data centers become one o...

Why Climate Jobs Aren't Enough Anymore

03 Feb 2026

Contributed by Lukas

Eugene Kirpichov is Co-Founder and Executive Director of Work on Climate, a global community helping professionals take action on climate across indus...

Autonomous Wildfire Suppression with Seneca

27 Jan 2026

Contributed by Lukas

Stu Landesberg is Co-founder and CEO of Seneca, a company developing autonomous aerial systems to detect and suppress wildfires before they grow out o...

Using Drones to Make Rain and Snow with Rainmaker

20 Jan 2026

Contributed by Lukas

Augustus Doricko is Founder and CEO at Rainmaker, a company using cloud seeding, drones, and radar to increase rain and snow as water scarcity and dro...

AI Hits a Power Wall. Starcloud Launches Data Centers Into Orbit

13 Jan 2026

Contributed by Lukas

Philip Johnston is co-founder and CEO of Starcloud, a company building data centers in space to solve AI's power crisis. Starcloud has already launche...

The Missing Piece Holding Back Advanced Nuclear with Standard Nuclear

06 Jan 2026

Contributed by Lukas

Kurt Terrani is CEO of Standard Nuclear, a company focused on a part of nuclear energy that gets far less attention than reactor designs but can becom...

Modular, High-Quality Homes Built Faster and Cheaper with Cuby

16 Dec 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Aleks Gampel is COO and Co-founder at Cuby, a company rethinking how homes are built in the middle of a nationwide housing crisis. The cost of housing...

Inside the Race for Net Facility Gain with Pacific Fusion

09 Dec 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Carrie von Muench is the COO and Co-Founder of Pacific Fusion, a company building the first pulsed-magnetic fusion system designed for net facility ga...

AI-Powered Infrastructure Development with Unlimited Industries

03 Dec 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Alex Modon is CEO and Co-founder of Unlimited Industries, a company transforming infrastructure development through AI-driven automation. Unlimited ta...

Using AI to Supercharge Nuclear Operations with Atomic Canyon

19 Nov 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Trey Lauderdale is the CEO and Founder of Atomic Canyon, a company bringing artificial intelligence into the nuclear energy sector. Atomic Canyon rece...

Autonomous Construction Sites and AI-Powered Heavy Equipment with Bedrock Robotics

13 Nov 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Boris Sofman is the CEO and Co-Founder of Bedrock Robotics, a company turning existing construction equipment into fully autonomous fleets through sam...

Crusoe CEO and Co-founder, Chase Lochmiller: Live Special at MCJ Summit

29 Oct 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Chase Lochmiller is the CEO and co-founder of Crusoe. If you’re a regular listener, Crusoe isn’t new to the pod. This summer, Cody sat down with ...

AI’s Power Gap and Nuclear’s Return with The Nuclear Company

07 Oct 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Juliann Edwards is Chief Development Officer at The Nuclear Company. The United States has 93 operating nuclear reactors providing about 20% of the na...

Turning Seawater into a Carbon Removal Solution with Captura

30 Sep 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Steve Oldham is CEO of Captura. Captura develops Direct Ocean Capture (DOC) technology that removes CO₂ from seawater, triggering the ocean to draw ...

De-Extinction as a Platform Business with Colossal Biosciences

23 Sep 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Ben Lamm is CEO and Co-founder of Colossal Biosciences, the world’s first de-extinction company. Colossal has raised more than $400 million at a val...

Why Circularity Fuels Started with Diamonds to Scale Sustainable Jet Fuel

16 Sep 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Dr. Stephen Beaton is Co-founder and CEO of Circularity Fuels, which develops compact reactors that turn waste carbon streams into high-value fuels an...

Tesla Co-founder, Marc Tarpenning

09 Sep 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Marc Tarpenning is Co-founder of Tesla and a venture partner at Spero Ventures. In 2003, Marc and Martin Eberhard saw two signals: GM killed its belov...

Inside America’s Biggest Energy and Science Lab with Oak Ridge National Laboratory

02 Sep 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Dr. Susan Hubbard is Deputy Director for Science and Technology at Oak Ridge National Laboratory, the largest of the U.S. Department of Energy’s mul...

Electrifying Marine Vessels with Arc Boat Company

12 Aug 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Mitch Lee, CEO of Arc Boat Company, is bringing the Tesla playbook to boating. Arc’s quiet, software-powered electric boats—like the sold-out Arc ...

The Rise of American Dynamism with a16z

29 Jul 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Katherine Boyle and Erin Price-Wright are General Partners at Andreessen Horowitz (a16z), leading the firm's American Dynamism practice. This episode ...

Dr. Michael Mann on Climate Science Under Siege and Why It Matters Now

22 Jul 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Dr. Michael Mann is Presidential Distinguished Professor of Earth and Environmental Science at the University of Pennsylvania. He also serves as Direc...

Are Renewables Enough? Stanford’s Dr. Mark Jacobson Thinks So

15 Jul 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Dr. Mark Jacobson is a professor of Civil and Environmental Engineering and Director of the Atmosphere Energy Program at Stanford University, where he...

The Solar Recycling Boom is Coming with SOLARCYCLE

30 Jun 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Suvi Sharma is the CEO and Co-Founder at SOLARCYCLE. SOLARCYCLE is an emerging leader in the nascent category of solar panel recycling. The astoundin...

Turning Roads into Carbon Sinks with Carbon Crusher

23 Jun 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Haakon Brunell is the CEO and Co-founder of Carbon Crusher, a Norwegian company turning traditional road construction on its head. Carbon Crusher refu...

Crusoe’s Big Bet on AI Infrastructure and Energy

17 Jun 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Cully Cavness is the co-founder, president, and COO of Crusoe, an energy-first AI infrastructure company. In this live episode recorded in Austin, Te...

How the Budget Bill Could Reshape America’s Energy Future

13 Jun 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Today on Inevitable, we’re joined by three guests to focus on the clean energy tax provisions currently at risk in the Congressional budget reconcil...

10,000 Projects, 1 Big Threat: What the Data Says About the IRA Rollback

09 Jun 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Michael Thomas joins us to discuss the clean energy tax provisions and industrial stimulus in the Inflation Reduction Act, which have brought billions...

Can We Slow the Doomsday Glacier? Arête on Glacial Intervention and Sea-Level Risk

02 Jun 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Brent Minchew is Co-Founder, Executive Director, and Chief Scientist at Arête Glacier Initiative, a new nonprofit launched to close the gap between f...

AI-Designed Materials to Cool and Decarbonize Data Centers with Orbital

27 May 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Jonathan Godwin is co-founder and CEO of Orbital Materials, an AI-first materials-engineering start-up. The company open-sourced Orb, a state-of-the-a...

Redesigning Nuclear Reactors for Mass Manufacturing with Aalo

19 May 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Matt Loszak is CEO and co-founder of Aalo Atomics, a startup designing 50-megawatt nuclear power plants made of pods of five 10-megawatt reactors each...

Inside Microsoft’s $1B Climate Fund Strategy to Hit Net Zero by 2030

12 May 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Brandon Middaugh is the senior director of Microsoft’s $1 billion Climate Innovation Fund, created in 2020 to accelerate technologies that help Micr...

How Euclid Power Streamlines Clean Energy Development at Scale

05 May 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Jacob Sandry is the CEO and co-founder of Euclid Power, a platform for renewable energy project development, financing, and operations—with AI-enabl...

Building the Future with Patrick Maloney, CIV

01 May 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Patrick Maloney is the Co-founder and CEO at CIV, and this episode was recorded in front of a live audience at the UCLA Anderson School of Management ...

How a $4 B Deep‑Tech Fund Tackles Emissions with DCVC

17 Apr 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Zack Bogue is co‑founder and co‑managing partner at DCVC, a $4 billion deep‑tech venture firm spanning 13 funds. In late 2024, DCVC launched...

Underground Nuclear Reactors? Inside Deep Fission’s Energy Solution

10 Apr 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Liz Muller is the CEO and Co-founder of Deep Fission, a company pioneering a new approach to the traditional light-water nuclear reactor. Rather than ...

Building a Real-Time Wildfire Alert Platform with Watch Duty

03 Apr 2025

Contributed by Lukas

John Mills is the Co-Founder and CEO of Watch Duty, the leading app for real-time wildfire alerts in the U.S.In this episode of Inevitable, John share...

Securing the Energy Grid from Cyber Threats with Xage Security

27 Mar 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Roman Arutyunov is the Co-founder and SVP of Products at Xage Security, a Series B startup focused on protecting critical infrastructure—including e...

Mike Schroepfer: Lessons from Scaling Meta to Investing in the Energy Transition

20 Mar 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Mike Schroepfer is Partner at Gigascale, a venture firm he founded and self-funded to back startups building venture-scale businesses with the potenti...

Accelerating Data Center and Renewable Energy Siting with Paces

13 Mar 2025

Contributed by Lukas

James McWalter is the CEO and co-founder of Paces, an AI-powered software platform that helps clean energy project developers identify and evaluate th...

Building the EV Charging Network: Lessons from Former EVgo CEO Cathy Zoi

06 Mar 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Cathy Zoi is a clean energy veteran with a career spanning leadership roles across government, industry, and investment. Most recently, she served as ...

Why Wildfire Insurance is Broken—And How Stand is Fixing It

27 Feb 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Dan Preston is the co-founder and CEO of Stand, a brand-new startup property insurer providing homeowners insurance for climate-exposed properties. Th...

Marc Mezvinsky on TPG Rise Climate’s $7B Fund & Impact

20 Feb 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Marc Mezvinsky is a partner at TPG Rise Climate. TPG Rise Climate is among the largest pools of capital ever raised with a dedicated focus on climate ...

How LineVision is Boosting Transmission Grid Capacity Without New Power Lines

13 Feb 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Hudson Gilmer is the co-founder and CEO of LineVision. LineVision is a Series C-stage startup helping utilities monitor and increase the capacity of ...

Structured Capital 101: Keyframe’s Approach to Climate Finance

06 Feb 2025

Contributed by Lukas

John Rappaport is the Chief Investment Officer at Keyframe Capital, a special situations fund manager. They help management teams solve complex asset ...

Designing Smart Heat Pumps That Work for Every Room with Quilt

23 Jan 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Paul Lambert is the Co-founder and CEO of Quilt,  a company designing smart ductless heat pumps for residential heating and cooling with intelligent ...

A New Framework for Family Offices with Integrated Capital Strategies

20 Jan 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Sharon Schneider is the Founder of Integrated Capital Strategies, a consulting firm that helps founders and family offices drive positive social chang...

Circular Solutions for Heavy Industry with Cocoon

16 Jan 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Eliot Brooks is the CEO and co-founder of Cocoon. Cocoon is driving the industrial circular economy, starting with a process that helps the steel ind...

What’s Ahead for U.S. Energy and Climate Policy with Adrian Deveny

13 Jan 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Adrian Deveny, former Director of Energy and Environmental Policy for U.S. Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer, was a key architect of the Biden-era ...

Wildfires, Floods and Extreme Heat: Why Climate Adaptation Matters with Intact Centre

06 Jan 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Kathryn Bakos is the Managing Director of Finance and Resilience at the Intact Centre on Climate Adaptation, an applied research center within the fac...

Simplifying Clean Energy Procurement with Verse

02 Jan 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Seyed Madaeni is the co-founder and CEO of Verse. Verse develops software that helps organizations understand, plan, and manage clean energy. Their pl...

Inside the DOE’s Grid Deployment Office

19 Dec 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Maria Robinson, outgoing Director of the Grid Deployment Office at the U.S. Department of Energy, joins us to share insights from her impactful tenure...

Tin-Powered Energy Storage with Fourth Power

12 Dec 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Arvin Ganesan is the CEO of Fourth Power, which is developing a flexible-duration thermal energy system designed to meet the needs of an electrical gr...

Frontier’s $1B Bet on Carbon Removal

09 Dec 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Hannah Bebbington is the Head of Deployment at Frontier, an advanced market commitment created in 2022, that aims to purchase $1 billion or more of pe...

Stanford's Hydrogen and Natural Gas Initiatives

05 Dec 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Dr. Naomi Boness is the managing director of the Natural Gas Initiative and co-managing director of the Hydrogen Initiative at Stanford University. Wi...

TELO’s EV Pickup for Urban Adventures

21 Nov 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Jason Marks is the Co-founder and CEO at TELO. TELO is developing EV pickup trucks in the footprint of a Mini Cooper with a bed the size of a Toyota T...

This Giant Aircraft Aims to Break Wind Energy’s Size Limits

14 Nov 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Mark Lundstrom is the founder and CEO of Radia.Radia is developing the WindRunner, the world’s largest aircraft, specifically designed to transport ...

Building Trust in the Carbon Markets with Rubicon

11 Nov 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Tom Montag, CEO of Rubicon Carbon, joins us to discuss the world of carbon credits. Tom has had an illustrious career, previously serving as Chief Ope...

Solar-Powered Data Centers with Exowatt

07 Nov 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Hannan Parvizian is Co-founder and CEO of Exowatt. Exowatt turned heads earlier this year when it announced a $20 million Seed round with backers incl...

Winning the Climate War with Tom Steyer

04 Nov 2024

Contributed by Lukas

By now, you’ve likely noticed our refreshed look. We’re evolving the show to focus on the inevitable impacts of climate change and the groundbreak...

Introducing: Inevitable, an MCJ podcast

01 Nov 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Climate change is inevitable. It's already here. But at the same time, the energy transition–the rewriting of industries to be cleaner, more profit...

The Final Stop on My Climate Journey—And What’s Next

31 Oct 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Today on My Climate Journey, we’re bringing back a familiar voice: Jason Jacobs, Founder and Venture Partner at MCJ. In this special episode, Cody a...

Geothermal for Big Buildings with Bedrock

24 Oct 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Joselyn Lai is the Co-founder and CEO at Bedrock Energy. Bedrock uses geothermal energy to transform the heating and cooling of buildings. We've cove...

Point Source Carbon Capture with Ardent’s Membrane Solutions

17 Oct 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Erica Nemser is CEO at Ardent, a Series A stage startup that's aiming to help drive industrial decarbonization by developing and selling membranes to ...

Scaling Hydrogen for Heavy Industry with Hgen

10 Oct 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Molly Yang is CEO and co-founder of Hgen, a company that develops clean hydrogen to decarbonize heavy industry. Specifically, they are working on alk...

Crafting Landmark Climate Legislation with Russell Kenneth DeGraff

07 Oct 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Russell Kenneth DeGraff spent 18 years as a staffer on Capitol Hill, including 12 years as the Chief Climate and Technology Advisor to Nancy Pelosi, n...

Startup Series: Battery-Powered Homes with Base

03 Oct 2024

Contributed by Lukas

This My Climate Journey podcast episode was recorded in front of a live audience at the Ion during Houston Energy and Climate Startup Week. Zach Dell...

A Conversation with Oxy CEO, Vicki Hollub

01 Oct 2024

Contributed by Lukas

*This My Climate Journey podcast episode was recorded in front of a live audience at the Ion during Houston Energy and Climate Startup Week. Our gues...

Election Special: Navigating the Climate Vote

16 Sep 2024

Contributed by Lukas

The election cycle can feel overwhelming for the average person who is climate-concerned, but not deeply political enough to understand where and how ...

Startup Series: Nuclear Micro-Reactors with Radiant

12 Sep 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Doug Bernauer is the CEO and Co-founder of Radiant. Radiant is developing a portable nuclear micro-reactor to replace diesel generators. They raised a...

Startup Series: Designing the Future of Home Energy with Haven

29 Aug 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Jeff Chapin is the Co-founder and Chief Product Officer at Haven Energy. Haven aims to make it easier for homeowners to install home battery systems, ...

Startup Series: Battery-Electric Rail with Parallel Systems

22 Aug 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Matt Soule is the CEO and Co-founder of Parallel Systems. Parallel Systems is re-imagining how goods can be transported via rail by building automate...

Startup Series: Electrifying Trucking with Flipturn

15 Aug 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Katie Siegel is CEO and Co-founder at Flipturn. Flipturn is an EV charging management platform for fleets and we're diving into the electrification of...

Big Tech Betting on Nature-Based Carbon Removals

12 Aug 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Julia Strong is the Executive Director of Symbiosis Coalition. Announced in early 2024, Symbiosis Coalition is an advanced market commitment from Goog...

Decoding Coal Dispatch with RMI

05 Aug 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Joe Daniel is a Principal on the Carbon-Free Electricity Team at RMI.Our topic today is coal, specifically the "non-economic dispatch" of coal. This p...

Startup Series: Distributed Hydrogen with Fourier

31 Jul 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Siva Yellamraju is the Co-founder and CEO at Fourier. Fourier's mission is to make hydrogen universally accessible with on-site and on-demand product...

Japan's Energy Mix Post-Fukushima

22 Jul 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Japan is important to consider on the global energy stage. The country’s emissions footprint is considerably smaller than China and the U.S. While J...

Startup Series: Hoxton Farms’ Cruelty-Free Fats

18 Jul 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Max Jamilly, CEO and Co-founder at Hoxton Farms. And today, we're talking about fat. Hoxton Farms, a London-based startup, grows and sells animal fat...

Startup Series: Permanent Geologic Carbon Storage with Vaulted Deep

11 Jul 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Julia Reichelstein is the CEO and Co-founder at Vaulted Deep, a carbon removal company that injects carbon-rich waste slurries deep underground into p...

Startup Series: Rhizome's Resilience Planning for Utilities

27 Jun 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Mish Thadani is the CEO and Co-founder of Rhizome. Rhizome helps utilities plan for resilience. It's an AI-powered software platform that helps electr...

Onshoring Clean Energy with Giulia Siccardo, DOE's Office of Manufacturing and Energy Supply Chains

18 Jun 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Today's conversation is all about how the US is trying to onshore manufacturing of key clean energy supply chains, things like EV, battery metals, and...

Advancing Nuclear Innovation with INL’s Dr. John Wagner

10 Jun 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Dr. John Wagner is the President of Battelle Energy Alliance and Director of the Idaho National Laboratory or INL. INL is one of 17 national labs in ...

Cargill's Corporate Clean Energy Procurement

03 Jun 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Christina Yagjian leads global renewable energy strategy and origination at Cargill. According to Forbes, Cargill is the largest private company in th...

The Science of Startups with Activate's Cyrus Wadia

30 May 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Cyrus Wadia is the CEO of Activate, a 501(c)(3) nonprofit organization that empowers scientists to bring their research to market. Having supported ne...

Startup Series: Unlocking Ammonia as Energy with Amogy

23 May 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Dr. Seonghoon Woo is CEO and co-founder at Amogy. Amogy is building technology to unlock ammonia's potential as a clean energy fuel source for transpo...

Reframing Nuclear Narratives with the Breakthrough Institute

13 May 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Adam Stein is the Director of Nuclear Energy Innovation at the Breakthrough Institute, where he focuses on the technology, policy, risk and economics ...

Live from SF Climate Week with Senator Scott Wiener and Shashank Samala

06 May 2024

Contributed by Lukas

In today's episode, recorded live during San Francisco Climate Week, we delve into the critical intersection of climate policy and carbon removal. Joi...

Exploring NOAA with Chief Scientist Dr. Sarah Kapnick

15 Apr 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Dr. Sarah Kapnick serves as the Chief Scientist at NOAA, the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, which plays a critical role in understan...

Climate Change and Democracy with Ning Mosberger-Tang

08 Apr 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Ning Mosberger-Tang is the founder and president at 1.5 Climate Strategies Group, alongside a host of other climate and civic organizations. As one o...

Diving into Desalination with Peter Fiske, National Alliance for Water Innovation

02 Apr 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Dr. Peter Fiske is the Executive Director at the National Alliance for Water Innovation or NAWI. NAWI is a collection of 19 universities, four nationa...

Startup Series: Reclaimed Lumber with Urban Machine

28 Mar 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Eric Law is the CEO and co-founder of Urban Machine. Urban Machine develops robotics and AI to reclaim lumber from construction and demolition for re...

From the White House to Climate Frontlines with Brandon Hurlbut

18 Mar 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Brandon Hurlbut, our guest on this episode, wears multiple hats. He's co-founder at Boundary Stone Partners, a climate change focused government affai...

Kim Stanley Robinson on Technology, Climate and Capitalism

11 Mar 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Kim Stanley Robinson, renowned science fiction author, is our guest on this episode of MCJ. He is the author of the Ministry for the Future, a novel w...

Quantum Solutions with Rigetti Computing

04 Mar 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Subodh Kulkarni is CEO and President at Rigetti Computing, and our topic in this episode is quantum computing and its implications for our changing pl...

Skilled Labor Series: Eric Letvin, FEMA

29 Feb 2024

Contributed by Lukas

This episode is part of our Skilled Labor Series hosted by MCJ partner, Yin Lu. This series is focused on amplifying the voices of folks from the skil...

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