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Are men in your life getting more political? This guy may be why.

18 Apr 2025

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Have you turned on ESPN recently? You might be surprised to find that the sports bros are abandoning GOAT debates and getting political. No one is more an example of this than ESPN personality and perhaps Presidential candidate, Stephen A. Smith. So what's going on here? And what does the Fox Newsification of sports media tell us about our current political culture and future?Brittany is joined by co-host of NPR's Code Switch podcast, Gene Demby, and Senior Staff Writer at the Ringer, Joel Anderson. Together, they discuss how sports commentary is way more political than you might think and why its most viral star Stephen A. Smith would even entertain the idea of running for president in 2028.Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoicesNPR Privacy Policy

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0.771 - 15.494 NPR Announcer

Support for NPR comes from the Cy Sims Foundation, since 1985, supporting advances in science, education, and the arts towards a fairer, more just, and civil society. More information is available at cysimsfoundation.org.

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19.595 - 46.56 Brittany Luce

Hello, hello. I'm Brittany Luce, and you're listening to It's Been a Minute from NPR, a show about what's going on in culture and why it doesn't happen by accident. This week, we're connecting the dots between LeBron James, Bristol, Connecticut, and the 2028 election. I know, I know. How are all of these things connected?

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46.88 - 61.35 Brittany Luce

Well, we are going to find out with co-host of NPR's Code Switch podcast, Gene Demby, and former senior writer at ESPN and current senior staff writer at The Ringer, Joel Anderson. Gene, Joel, welcome to It's Been a Minute. Welcome back to It's Been a Minute. You both have been here before.

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61.41 - 64.012 Gene Demby

It's good with you, Brittany. Yeah, appreciate us having you back. Yeah.

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64.372 - 75.862 Brittany Luce

It's good to have you. Okay, quick question. Who do y'all have winning the NBA finals? I don't know the answer to this question because I don't even know who's in the NBA semifinals, quarterfinals. I don't know who plays. I don't know who's in there.

76.523 - 80.006 Joel Anderson

My heart hurts when I say this, but it's probably going to be the Celtics.

80.446 - 85.151 Gene Demby

I say the Celtics, but I'm open to the idea of the OKC Thunder. OKC Thunder.

87.11 - 101.73 Brittany Luce

Well, these are the kinds of conversations that you'd expect to hear in your typical sports talk television show. However, there has been an interesting shift in the sports media world. The sports bros are getting political. And hear me out. If you, like me...

102.25 - 124.135 Brittany Luce

are not really a sports fan, I'd argue that we still need to pay attention to this box newsification of sports media, meaning it's personality driven, it's bombastic, it thrives off of conflict, and it's increasingly concerned with politics. For instance, ESPN used to be a place to watch the highlights, and now it's where you go to watch endless debates and hot takes.

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