The new Trump administration is using the language of civil rights but flipping it on its head. If 'diversity' is now being coded as discrimination, what does that mean for the future of civil rights?Brittany is joined by Columbia Law professor Olatunde Johnson and Pulitzer prize-winning journalist Wesley Lowery to look at how the Trump administration is dismantling federal diversity, equity, and inclusion initiatives and how private businesses are following suit.Support public media and receive ad-free listening. Join NPR+ today.Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoicesNPR Privacy Policy
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Hello, hello. I'm Brittany Luce, and you're listening to It's Been a Minute from NPR, a show about what's going on in culture and why it doesn't happen by accident. OK, y'all, this week, we are all going to be connecting the dots between the DOJ, a McDouble and your civil rights. I know. I know. How are all of these things connected?
Well, we are going to find out with Columbia law professor Alatunde Johnson and Pulitzer Prize winning journalist Wesley Lowery. Welcome to It's Been a Minute. Thank you. Thank you for having us. It's been a minute. You know what? Wesleyan has been a minute. But I'm happy to have you on this show. If you could start a podcast with any civil rights hero, who would it be and why?
Oh, there are so many. Pauli Murray, Bayard Rustin. I might pick Ted Shaw, who a lot of people don't know about, but who headed the NAACP Legal Defense Fund for a long time and is a professor at UNC. He is so wise. So I would want to hear from him.
I love that. I love that. Wesley, what about you?
That is an excellent question. I think my answer to this is the Reverend James Lawson, because he trained so many of the activists when they themselves were younger. And I feel like he would have some pretty good behind the scenes stories about everybody else, which would then make for a pretty juicy podcast.
That is a pretty good one. That's a pretty good one. Those are both excellent choices. But I gotta say, I'll say regardless of whoever you would have as your co-host, I'm sure y'all would have a lot to cover on your show after the past couple of weeks. So let's get into it. President, you have today blamed the diversity element.
That tape is of the president's press briefing this week after the tragic plane crash in D.C.
It's all under investigation. I understand that.
Which the president speculated was the fault of programs aimed at diversity, equity, and inclusion. DEI, for short. That's why I'm trying to figure out how you can come to the conclusion right now that diversity had something to do with this crash.
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