The manosphere is coming for R&B
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Historically, what has been kind of like the place of R and B music or the community around it, the fandom around it? And what has R and B become?
Yeah, I mean I think R and B primarily is thought about as like a sensual music, right? Yeah. I mean historically and especially like in my lifetime, like it's about yearning, um, love, romance, heartbreak. Like Philly's soul, like we're thinking of like big elaborate production, you know, like or even I think Gibeon's last album was an incredible um ode to that era. And you know, as I got older and like, you know, like the 2010s, we get into the weekend, Drake. Bryson Tiller, you know, trap soul sound, but it was always about these big, grandiose expressions of love or heartbreak.
How has R&B historically been defined and what does its fandom look like?
As someone who came up on those big, grandiose expressions of love or heartbreak, I was shocked to read Monkepur Conte's piece for Hammer and Hope magazine called Is This What RB Sounds Like When You Don't Respect Women? In the piece, Monkepur interviews up and coming RB artist Isaiah Haran. After listening to his latest album, Mr. Lovebomb, Monkepur thought she was witnessing a nuanced portrayal of the toxicity that can arise. In romantic relationships. The male lead, aka Mr. Lovebomb, falls in love with a beautiful but unkind woman, then cheats on her and gaslights her when she suspects he's been unfaithful. Munkabur imagined that Haran was creating a full empathetic portrait of his complicated female lead.
But when she brought that theory to Haran, The conversation took a turn. Haran tells Monkepur, What empathy for women could I have? and goes on to suggest there's an unfair focus on the wrongdoings of men. That line of thinking sounds eerily similar to the red pill manosphere talking points we see and hear online. And while it's not new, it is shocking to read this from an RB artist, a genre known for love, yearning, desire, heartbreak now asks: Do women deserve empathy? Today on the show, I'm talking with Manka Berkante. She's a journalist and 2026-2027 Knight Wallace Arts Journalism Fellow at the University of Michigan, and she's here to break down her interview with Isaiah Haran, Vibes-based chauvinism, and what it says about the state of R ⁇ B today.
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You go to one of his shows and in his hometown. Yes. And you guys start talking. And then you start to ask about some of his music and influences and things kinda get a little funky. You start asking him questions on what you described as a complicated care for the imagined women that he sings about in his album. You offered him this idea that he uh was extending empathy to the women characters that he wrote about his songs, but he responded by saying to you like that he was not at all concerned with writing about women empathetically. I mean to quote him from your piece, he says, What empathy for women could I have? In reference to this, you know, female character in the story that's been love bombed right by the the man whose perspective he's also writing from, he says the love interest in the album was quote
А блайк алтетай. This seemed to me very out of step with I think how a lot of like RB singers traditionally have wanted to present themselves as sort of like, you know, these ladies' men who understand the like, you know, the like individual women's spirits. And, you know, like it it was it caught me off guard to read it. What was it like for you to kind of reach that point of the conversation? Um, because it seems like the rest of the conversation.
I tried to wrap my head around where he was coming from. And I felt like because he said it so readily, this must just be something that you really believe. Because really the crux of this point of the conversation was breaking down the meaning of Mr.
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Chapters
5 chapters
1
What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
0:00–1:02
2
How has R&B historically been defined and what does its fandom look like?
1:02–6:19
3
What was the premise of Mankaprr Conteh’s Hammer & Hope article on Isaiah Huron?
6:19–9:26
4
How did Isaiah Huron respond when asked about empathy for women in his album Mr. Lovebomb?
9:26–27:01
5
What is “vibes‑based chauvinism” and how does it appear in Huron’s interview?
27:01–30:47