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The WWE vs. the American education system

28 Feb 2025

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President Trump is calling for the end of the U.S. Department of Education, but so have other Republicans since the day it was formed in 1979. So why do Republicans hate it enough to lambast it, but love it enough to keep it around?Brittany is joined by NPR's education correspondent Cory Turner and author Josephine Riesman to talk about Trump's pick for education secretary, former WWE CEO Linda McMahon. And how Trump and McMahon are using the WWE playbook to reshape the American public education system.For more on this topic check out Cory's latest piece for NPR, Republicans' love/hate relationship with the Education Department, and Josie's investigation into the WWE, Ringmaster: Vince McMahon and the Unmaking of America.Support public media and receive ad-free listening & bonus content. Join NPR+ today.Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoicesNPR Privacy Policy

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0.129 - 23.027 NPR Announcer

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26.803 - 57.353 Brittany Luce

Hello, hello. I'm Brittany Luce, and you're listening to It's Been a Minute from NPR, a show about what's going on in culture and why it doesn't happen by accident. All right, everybody. This week, you and I are connecting the dots between public education, Ronald Reagan, and the WWE. I know. I know. How are all of these things connected?

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57.474 - 70.303 Brittany Luce

Well, we are going to find out with NPR's education correspondent, Corey Turner, and bestselling author, Josephine Reisman. Corey, Josie, welcome to It's Been a Minute. Oh, it's great to be here. Perfect.

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70.523 - 71.804 Cory Turner

Thanks for having me, Brittany. Yes.

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72.714 - 92.663 Brittany Luce

Okay, so which one of these battles do you think you are more likely to win? A congressional confirmation hearing or a WWE wrestling showdown? I myself personally, the showdown, I think I would win. I think I have big face energy. To use some wrestling terminology, I think I have big face energy.

92.683 - 97.605 Josephine Riesman

I don't know you that well, but you have great baby face energy. The crowd is behind you.

99.195 - 103.557 Cory Turner

Yeah, I wouldn't want to do either. I'm just going to bow out of both.

104.477 - 107.338 Brittany Luce

All right, I'll accept the cop out. I'll accept the cop out.

107.498 - 108.039 Cory Turner

Thank you.

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