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Activity Overview
Episode publication activity over the past year
Episodes
Protecting Your Mental Health in the Healthcare Workplace, with the Burned Out Burnout Expert, Dr. Jessi Gold
01 Jul 2024
Contributed by Lukas
We know that healthcare workers are burned out and exhausted. Provider mental health is a huge issue… but are the institutions listening? This wee...
Over and Over Again: Illustrator Aubrey Hirsch on the Power of Storytelling
24 Jun 2024
Contributed by Lukas
The world is such a hot mess: every day a new disaster, a new human rights catastrophe. It can just feel… endless. Illustrator Aubrey Hirsch joins u...
Untangled: Suffering & The 8-Fold Path with Koshin Paley Ellison
17 Jun 2024
Contributed by Lukas
If you look at social media with its reliance on meme-based psychology, you’d think that the Buddhist approach to life is to not let things get to y...
Other People Have It Worse: Veteran Jason Kander on PTSD & Recognizing You Need Help
10 Jun 2024
Contributed by Lukas
On the outside, veteran Jason Kander had everything going for him: successful political career, lovely family, the respect of his peers. But on the in...
It’s Not Just Business: Healthcare Equity & Leadership with Dr. Errol Pierre
03 Jun 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Dr. Errol Pierre is a corporate executive, leader, mentor, and outspoken advocate for healthcare equity in the US and Haiti. HIs book, The Way Up, hel...
Pet Loss and Veterinarians Who Cry: with Veterinary Oncologist and Author Dr. Renee Alsarraf
27 May 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Nobody likes to talk about pet loss… but everybody wants to talk about pet loss. What a difficult scenario that is! Veterinary oncologist Dr. Renee ...
Horse Barbie & Cultivating Trans Joy with Geena Rocero
20 May 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Can you hide in plain sight? From trans beauty pageants in the Philippines, to the catwalks of New York City fashion week, to the Ted Talk mainstage –...
Real Self-Care with Dr. Pooja Lakshmin
13 May 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Have you ever put on a face mask, expecting it to solve all your mental health problems? That seems…unrealistic, but it’s what self-care marketi...
Is There Any Good News on Climate Change? with Bill McKibben
06 May 2024
Contributed by Lukas
We’re in a massive climate crisis, but it’s hard to think about it, isn’t it? It’s a great temptation to shut our eyes to climate change. It...
A Renaissance of Our Own: The Stories We Tell Ourselves with Rachel Cargle
29 Apr 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Can grief be an opportunity for growth and self-understanding? The answer, of course, is yes: but it’s a bit more complex than that. This week, auth...
Live Each Day Like It’s Your First: with Alua Arthur
22 Apr 2024
Contributed by Lukas
What would a meaningful life look like for you? According to Death Doula Alua Arthur, conversations about death can be the most enriching conversation...
More Anger Means More Joy: Part Two with Soraya Chemaly
15 Apr 2024
Contributed by Lukas
What do we lose when we’re not allowed to be angry? In a lot of ways, anger is more taboo than grief. They’re deeply related, as you’ll hea...
Rage Becomes Her (and by “her” I mean US) with Soraya Chemaly
08 Apr 2024
Contributed by Lukas
What do we lose when we’re not allowed to be angry? In a lot of ways, anger is more taboo than grief. They’re deeply related, as you’ll hea...
Do You Have to Be Friends with Everyone? with Dr. Alexandra Solomon (Part Two)
03 Apr 2024
Contributed by Lukas
What should you do if someone wants to be friends, but you’re not into it? Boundaries are part of all human relationships, but they are TRICKY. ...
Tricky Boundaries & Skillful Negotiation with Dr. Alexandra Solomon (Part One)
01 Apr 2024
Contributed by Lukas
What do you do when someone cuts you out of their life? How do you back away slowly from someone you really don’t want to be around? Boundaries are ...
Complex PTSD and the Art of Survival with Author Stephanie Foo
25 Mar 2024
Contributed by Lukas
If you’ve lived through horrific trauma or abuse, is it really fair of us to say that the ways you’ve learned to cope are “bad,” or to use cli...
Organized Grief = Social Movements with Malkia Devich-Cyril
18 Mar 2024
Contributed by Lukas
There’s no denying the grief that permeates everyday life. It’s in the news, in our communities, and in our personal lives. The thing is - we neve...
What’s the Deal With Prolonged Grief Disorder (and why should you care)?
11 Mar 2024
Contributed by Lukas
PROLONGED GRIEF DISORDER! It’s everywhere - social media, The New York Times, The Washington Post… it’s the hot new medical condition everyone’...
Sam Sanders: Life Has Been Lifing
04 Mar 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Sam Sanders is a well known and well loved radio and podcast host. He went a little extra-viral for a recent episode of his show, Vibe Check, in whi...
Connection Is The Best Medicine: with Dr. Rana Awdish
26 Feb 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Ever wonder what doctors say about their patients when they think no one can hear? Dr. Rana Awdish doesn’t have to wonder - as a patient, she over...
Do I Stay Or Do I Go? Caregivers Under Stress; with the Co-Founders of the New York Zen Center for Contemplative Care
19 Feb 2024
Contributed by Lukas
It’s no secret that healthcare professionals and caregivers of all kinds are stretched beyond their limits. We can’t look to healthcare systems th...
Is There Enough Love to Go Around?
12 Feb 2024
Contributed by Lukas
The world can feel like such a lonely place sometimes. You ever feel like there’s not enough love and support to go around? Like, there’s a severe...
Tembi Locke: From Scratch
05 Feb 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Tembi Locke lived an amazing love story: she met a handsome chef during a study abroad year in Italy when she was just 20 years old. They moved to LA ...
Why Do We Celebrate Trauma (aka: resilience)? with Dr. Gabor Maté
29 Jan 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Did anyone teach you that understanding your grief is the key to being (or becoming) a healthy human being? Probably not. In this expansive episode,...
Collective Grief and Communal Joy: with Baratunde Thurston
22 Jan 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Can you heal pain by focusing on joy? Baratunde Thurston gave what’s been called “the greatest TED talk of all time.” He’s written about bei...
The Full Experience: Fitness, Love, Death & Community with Supernatural Coach, Leanne Pedante
15 Jan 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Have you ever wanted to just SMASH things? Leanne Pedante and her husband Miles’ relationship was built on bravery and communication - they worked s...
Holiday Debrief: Ghosting Therapists, New Year’s Breakups, and Holiday Angels
08 Jan 2024
Contributed by Lukas
The holidays are over - you made it. By the looks of our inbox, the season wasn’t easy. This week, a holiday debrief, including bad behavior from th...
New Year’s Resolutions vs “aggressive futurism” with Kate Bowler - Part 2
01 Jan 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Is acceptance overrated? What happens when you have to face a new year without your person in it (or without the health you used to have!)? In this ...
New Year, Same Grief (and the Math of Suffering) with Kate Bowler - Part 1
25 Dec 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Is acceptance overrated? What happens when you have to face a new year without your person in it (or without the health you used to have!)? In this ...
A Christmas Eve Tradition
23 Dec 2023
Contributed by Lukas
My dad used to read ‘‘Twas the Night Before Christmas” every Christmas Eve when I was a kid, after dinner and before we opened our Christmas pjs...
Your Holiday Survival Guide: Family Dynamics Edition
18 Dec 2023
Contributed by Lukas
The holiday season is sometimes joyful, sometimes stressful - and to be honest, it’s usually a mix of both. Between external pressures and family dy...
adrienne maree brown: Can We Give Ourselves Permission to Be Free?
11 Dec 2023
Contributed by Lukas
What if there’s nothing to fix? What if you could just, you know, be yourself - whatever that looks like today? When I told people that this week’...
Living with Chronic Illness: A Conversation For Everyone with a Body, with Sarah Ramey
04 Dec 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Look, there are some things in life - a LOT of things in life - that just can’t be fixed or made better, you have to figure out how you’re going t...
What Happens to Childhood Grief When You Grow Up? with Allyson Dinneen
27 Nov 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Our early childhood experiences of grief - and how our family systems dealt with loss - have a huge impact on our adult behaviors and relationships. ...
Gun Violence, Graphic Imagery & The Washington Post; with Nelba Márquez-Greene
22 Nov 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Recently The Washington Post released graphic images, videos, and audio recordings from mass shootings, in a report called “Terror on Repeat.” Sho...
Sometimes Loss Is Freedom: A Conversation with Rebecca Woolf
20 Nov 2023
Contributed by Lukas
What if you were just about to get divorced, but your partner gets sick? Like really sick? Rebecca Woolf was just about to leave an unhappy marriage w...
Is It Time to Retire the Stages of Grief? (Spoiler: Yes)
13 Nov 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Everybody knows the stages of grief. Even if you didn’t go to grad school, I bet you can rattle them off. Thing is - those stages don’t help anyon...
Can We Make This Place Beautiful? with Maggie Smith
06 Nov 2023
Contributed by Lukas
How do we live in a world that’s at least half terrible, and that is a conservative estimate?If you recognize that line, you already know Maggie Smi...
Wonder In an Age of Violence: Valarie Kaur & See No Stranger
30 Oct 2023
Contributed by Lukas
“Wonder is the root of love, the lack of wonder is the root of violence.” Valarie Kaur is no stranger to violence. As a Sikh, as a woman, as a per...
The Old Gays Talk Life, Joy, and the Missing Generation of Gay Elders
23 Oct 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Being fabulous can save your life. The Old Gays are a social media sensation: flamboyant outfits, lip synched dance parties, and risque theatrics y...
A Place Called Home: A Conversation with Child Welfare Advocate, David Ambroz
16 Oct 2023
Contributed by Lukas
The scene is 1990’s New York City. Young David Ambroz and his two siblings are homeless, sleeping in bus shelters and bathing in public restrooms, u...
Overachieving As a Cry For Help: with Laurel Braitman
09 Oct 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Lots of smart, high achieving people learned to greet pain with stoicism: by being mature and responsible, even as kids. But what happens when yo...
Such Ferocious Beauty: with Margo Timmins of the Cowboy Junkies
02 Oct 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Dementia means losing your person over and over again. Margo Timmins and her siblings watched their father lose pieces of himself for years. They...
Cruelty on Steroids: How We Talk to Each Other, with Jameela Jamil
25 Sep 2023
Contributed by Lukas
We fight hard for the things we believe in. But HOW we fight for those things causes more damage than we realize. Jameela Jamil is a lightning ro...
Why Do We Celebrate Trauma (aka: Resilience)? with Dr. Gabor Maté
18 Sep 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Did anyone teach you that understanding your grief is the key to being (or becoming) a healthy human being? Probably not. In this expansive episo...
Sorry for your loss: comedian Michael Cruz Kayne
11 Sep 2023
Contributed by Lukas
How do you turn the worst thing that’s ever happened to you into a comedy show? Comedian Michael Cruz Kayne went viral for a tweet he posted on...
Elise Loehnen: The 7 Deadly Sins and the Crown of Sadness
04 Sep 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Should you stop being “good”? According to the 7 deadly sins, a “good person” needs no rest, has no appetite, has no desires, puts themse...
Tembi Locke: From Scratch
28 Aug 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Tembi Locke lived an amazing love story: she met a handsome chef during a study abroad year in Italy when she was just 20 years old. They moved to LA ...
Sam Sanders: Life Has Been Lifing
21 Aug 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Sam Sanders is a well known and well loved radio and podcast host. He went a little extra-viral for a recent episode of his show, Vibe Check, in which...
Steven Kotler: Peak Performance and Getting Older (for humans and for dogs!)
14 Aug 2023
Contributed by Lukas
When life feels hard, does “peak performance” mean anything? Steven Kotler is known as the NYT best selling author of books like Stealing Fir...
adrienne maree brown: Can We Give Ourselves Permission to Be Free?
07 Aug 2023
Contributed by Lukas
What if there’s nothing to fix? What if you could just, you know, be yourself - whatever that looks like today? When I told people that this we...
Horse Barbie & Cultivating Trans Joy with Geena Rocero
31 Jul 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Can you hide in plain sight? From trans beauty pageants in the Philippines, to the catwalks of New York City fashion week, to the Ted Talk mainstage ...
Book Bans, Grief, and Love: What Do These Have to Do With Social Movements? with Malkia Devich-Cyril
24 Jul 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Whether you’re interested in social justice or not, there’s no denying the grief simmering beneath the surface of daily life. It’s in our person...
Real Self-Care with Dr. Pooja Lakshmin
17 Jul 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Have you ever put on a face mask, expecting it to solve all your mental health problems? That seems… unrealistic, but that’s what self-care m...
Is There Any Good News On Climate Change? with Bill McKibben
10 Jul 2023
Contributed by Lukas
We’re in a massive climate crisis, but it’s hard to think about it, isn’t it? It’s a great temptation to shut our eyes to climate change....
A Renaissance of Our Own: The Stories We Tell Ourselves with Rachel Cargle
03 Jul 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Can grief be an opportunity for growth and self-understanding? The answer, of course, is yes: but it’s a bit more complex than that. This week, auth...
Can We Make This Place Beautiful? with Maggie Smith
26 Jun 2023
Contributed by Lukas
How do we live in a world that’s at least half terrible, and that is a conservative estimate?If you recognize that line, you already know Maggie Smi...
Wonder In an Age of Violence: Valarie Kaur & See No Stranger
19 Jun 2023
Contributed by Lukas
“Wonder is the root of love, the lack of wonder is the root of violence.” Is there a way to create boundaries with someone who wishes to cause h...
The Things That Define Us, with Chase Jarvis: Part Two
13 Jun 2023
Contributed by Lukas
If you try to not let something define you, can it define you anyway? You might know Chase Jarvis as an Emmy nominated photographer, founder of C...
The Grief of Getting What You Want: with Chase Jarvis
12 Jun 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Have you ever felt something, then immediately “disqualified” yourself from feeling it? As if you don’t have the right to feel what you’re fee...
Live Each Day Like It’s Your First: with Alua Arthur
05 Jun 2023
Contributed by Lukas
What would a meaningful life look like for you? According to Death Doula Alua Arthur, conversations about death can be the most enriching conversation...
What’s It All For? Loss and Meaning In Midlife with Chip Conley
29 May 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Midlife has a lot of messy stuff in it: divorce, the death of your parents, menopause, health scares, empty nests, career changes, feeling increasingl...
Living with Chronic Illness: A Conversation for Everyone with a Body, with Sarah Ramey
22 May 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Look, there are some things in life - a LOT of things in life - that just can’t be fixed or made better, you have to figure out how you’re going t...
Collective Grief and Communal Joy: with Baratunde Thurston
15 May 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Can you heal pain by focusing on joy? Baratunde Thurston gave what’s been called “the greatest TED talk of all time.” He’s written about ...
Is There Grief In Politics? with Dr. Gabor Maté
09 May 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Is there really a way to understand politics if you understand grief? In this bonus episode with Dr. Gabor Maté, we explore the interconnections of g...
Why Do We Celebrate Trauma (aka: Resilience)? with Dr. Gabor Maté
08 May 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Did anyone teach you that understanding your grief is the key to being (or becoming) a healthy human being? Probably not. In this expansive episo...
It's Ok That You're Not Okay: Season 3!
01 May 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Season three begins Monday May 8th, with all new shows and amazing guests. Follow now so you don’t miss an episode!See omnystudio.com/listener for p...
It’s Ok That You’re Not OK: the podcast
01 May 2023
Contributed by Lukas
What would be different if we could all just tell the truth about our lives? Welcome to SEASON THREE of It’s OK that You’re Not OK: the podcas...
Is There Any Hope For Us? Maybe. More Will Be Revealed
24 Apr 2023
Contributed by Lukas
We’re on break, creating all new episodes for season 3. In the meantime, here’s one of our favorite episodes from the past year. See you soon. ...
Pet Loss and Veterinarians Who Cry: with Veterinary Oncologist and Author Dr. Renee Alsarraf
17 Apr 2023
Contributed by Lukas
We’re on break, creating all new episodes for season 3. In the meantime, here’s one of our favorite episodes from the past year. See you soon. ...
Over and Over Again: Illustrator Aubrey Hirsch on the Power of Storytelling
10 Apr 2023
Contributed by Lukas
We’re on break, creating all new episodes for season 3. In the meantime, here’s one of our favorite episodes from the past year. See you soon. ...
Complex PTSD and the Art of Survival with author Stephanie Foo
03 Apr 2023
Contributed by Lukas
We’re on break, creating all new episodes for season 3. In the meantime, here’s one of our favorite episodes from the past year. See you soon. ...
Sometimes Loss Is Freedom: A Conversation with Rebecca Woolf
27 Mar 2023
Contributed by Lukas
We’re on break, creating all new episodes for season 3. In the meantime, here’s one of our favorite episodes from the past year. See you soon. ...
What’s the Deal with Prolonged Grief Disorder (and why should you care)?
20 Mar 2023
Contributed by Lukas
We’re on break, creating all new episodes for season 3. In the meantime, here’s one of our favorite episodes from the past year. See you soon. ...
What Happens to Childhood Grief When You Grow Up?
13 Mar 2023
Contributed by Lukas
We’re on break, creating all new episodes for season 3. In the meantime, here’s one of our favorite episodes from the past year. See you soon. ...
Is It Time to Retire the Stages of Grief? (Spoiler: yes)
06 Mar 2023
Contributed by Lukas
We’re on break, creating all new episodes for season 3. In the meantime, here’s one of our favorite episodes from the past year. See you soon. ...
Is There Any Hope For Us? Maybe. More Will Be Revealed.
27 Feb 2023
Contributed by Lukas
In this final episode of season two, we answer the central question from episode one: is there any hope? Okay, well we don’t answer it. But we do re...
Coming Home to Yourself with Alex Elle
20 Feb 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Can you make space for the whole truth in your life? The whole truth *of* your life? This week, best-selling author Alex Elle talks about the post-par...
The Half Life of Love (A Short Love Story)
14 Feb 2023
Contributed by Lukas
A bonus episode (and a re-release) for Valentine’s week - the love story at the core of the best-selling book, It’s OK that You’re Not OK, this ...
Is There Enough Love To Go Around?
13 Feb 2023
Contributed by Lukas
The world can feel like such a lonely place sometimes. You ever feel like there’s not enough love and support to go around? Like, there’s a severe...
More Anger Means More Joy: Part Two with Soraya Chemaly
06 Feb 2023
Contributed by Lukas
What do we lose when we’re not allowed to be angry? In a lot of ways, anger is more taboo than grief. They’re deeply related, as you’ll hea...
Rage Becomes Her (and by “her” I mean US) with Soraya Chemaly
30 Jan 2023
Contributed by Lukas
What do we lose when we’re not allowed to be angry? In a lot of ways, anger is more taboo than grief. They’re deeply related, as you’ll hea...
It’s Not Just Business: Healthcare Equity & leadership with Dr. Errol Pierre
23 Jan 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Dr. Errol Pierre is a corporate executive, leader, mentor, and outspoken advocate for healthcare equity in the US and Haiti. HIs new book, The Way Up,...
Grief, Collected with Amy Choi and Rebecca Lehrer
16 Jan 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Amy Choi and Rebecca Lehrer are used to exploring complexities. As hosts of the podcast The Mash-up Americans, they cover all sorts of complex interse...
The Full Experience: Fitness, Love, Death & Community with Supernatural Coach, Leanne Pedante
09 Jan 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Have you ever wanted to just SMASH things? Leanne Pedante and her husband Miles’ relationship was built on bravery and communication - they worked s...
New Year’s Resolutions vs “Aggressive Futurism” with Kate Bowler
02 Jan 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Is acceptance overrated? What happens when you have to face a new year without your person in it (or without the health you used to have!)? In this ...
New Year, Same Old Feelings
26 Dec 2022
Contributed by Lukas
The end of the year is always a flurry of resolutions and “next year will be even better!” sentiments. If your life has been anything but awesome ...
A Christmas Eve Tradition
24 Dec 2022
Contributed by Lukas
My dad used to read ‘‘Twas the Night Before Christmas” every Christmas Eve when I was a kid, after dinner and before we opened our Christmas pjs...
Connection Is the Best Medicine: with Dr. Rana Awdish
19 Dec 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Ever wonder what doctors say about their patients when they think no one can hear? Dr. Rana Awdish doesn’t have to wonder - as a patient, she overhe...
It’s Been Ten Years: What You Need to Know About Sandy Hook Survivors, with Nelba Márquez-Greene
12 Dec 2022
Contributed by Lukas
It’s been ten years since the massacre at Sandy Hook elementary where 20 children and 6 adults were murdered in an act of public gun violence. While...
If I Survived, You Can Too! Author Emi Nietfeld on the Hollowness of the Transformation Narrative
05 Dec 2022
Contributed by Lukas
The rags to riches success story is everywhere - usually with a side of trauma somewhere: the homeless child with mental health issues overcomes all t...
Looking For Black & Indigenous Burial Grounds: Bonus Episode with Cadaver Dog Expert Cat Warren
29 Nov 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Dog search team expert Cat Warren’s current work focuses on historical research, specifically: searching for abandoned or hidden burial grounds. Thi...
Dogs and The Dead: With Cadaver Search Dog Expert Cat Warren
28 Nov 2022
Contributed by Lukas
You’ve probably seen it - dramatizations of search dogs, running through the woods, noses to the ground, looking for a missing person, or for human ...
You Can’t Keep Everybody Safe with Author Mary Laura Philpott
21 Nov 2022
Contributed by Lukas
If you’ve been worried about bad things happening to the people you love, is it possible that an actual bad thing might bring temporary relief? Obvi...
Neurodivergence & Being Seen, Not Shamed with Lauren Ober, host of “The Loudest Girl in the World
14 Nov 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Look, life is weird and difficult. Social situations are hard to navigate. The world is too loud or too scratchy. You’re too loud or too bright or j...
Untangled: Suffering & The 8-Fold Path with Koshin Paley Ellison
07 Nov 2022
Contributed by Lukas
If you look at social media with its reliance on meme-based psychology, you’d think that the Buddhist approach to life is to not let things get to y...
Other People Have It Worse: Veteran Jason Kander on PTSD & recognizing you need help
31 Oct 2022
Contributed by Lukas
On the outside, veteran Jason Kander had everything going for him: successful political career, lovely family, the respect of his peers. But on the in...
Women, Life, Freedom: Grief and Power In Iran, with Nazanin Nour
24 Oct 2022
Contributed by Lukas
What’s happening in Iran and why are you hearing about it so much? This week on Here After, Iranian-American actor & writer Nazanin Nour on th...
Pet Loss and Veterinarians Who Cry: with Veterinary Oncologist and Author Dr. Renee Alsarraf
17 Oct 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Nobody likes to talk about pet loss… but everybody wants to talk about pet loss. What a difficult scenario that is! Veterinary oncologist Dr. Renee ...
Grief In Fiction, Grief In Life, with Best-Selling Author, Emily X.R. Pan
10 Oct 2022
Contributed by Lukas
NYT best-selling author Emily X.R. Pan had a problem: she wanted to write about her grandmother’s complex and fascinating life in 1920s Taiwan, but ...