In this deeply moving episode, Khloé is joined by grief expert and author David Kessler for a raw, vulnerable conversation about loss, healing, and the unexpected ways grief shapes who we become. Together, they talk through the layers of sorrow, guilt, and even anger that can surface after losing someone you love. Khloé opens up about losing her father at a young age and the emotional weight she carried for years.Episode Sponsors:Ready to glow from the inside out? Refresh your spring routine with 25% off and free shipping at https://Cymbiotika.com/KHLOE.This Spring, Fast Growing Trees have the best deals, for your yard, up to half off on select plants and other deals. And listeners to our show get 15% off their first purchase when using the code KHLOE at checkout. That’s an additional 15% off at https://fastgrowingtrees.com/khloe using the code KHLOE at checkout. Now’s the perfect time to plant. Use KHLOE to save today! Offer is valid for a limited time, terms and conditions may apply.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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I'm excited for this chat.
You are going to be helping so many people just by us having this conversation. Thank you. I think we have the illusion that grief is somehow this straight arrow. Better, better, better, better. And it really is just a big mess. What's the goal of grief? It's to remember with more love than pain, in your own time, in your own way. Grief must be witnessed. We need to witness without fixing.
There is no, let me point out the bright side, let me get you to a better place. Let me let you have your experience. And I don't know what it's like for you, but I'm just going to show up and be with you. One of the things about grief and loss and breakups and divorce and betrayals and death and everything is we continue. We survive. We're very resilient. I always say we're resilient and fragile.
None of this is logical. It's matters of the heart.
Hi, everyone. Chloe in Wonderland is going to be taking a two-week spring break. New episodes will resume on Wednesday, May 14th. I'll see you guys then. Hi David, thank you so much for being here. You are the most renowned expert in grief and you've written so many books about it and I'm just so excited to chat with you today, so thank you.
You and I were just chatting on the side and I was saying how I'm so excited for this conversation because I really believe it's gonna help so many people. channel their own grief in whatever capacity they have it in. And I don't think grief is spoken about as much.
I think people feel a lot of shame in grieving or the timeline of what they feel like they need to meet this grieving expectations by. I'm not for any of that. And I know you're not either. But I just wanted to first dive into how you came to the position that you're in helping millions of people process grief and what what occurrence has happened in your life that brought you to this stage.
I'm so glad we're doing this publicly, because it's so important for people to get these conversations modeled. Yes, because no one does it. So As you can imagine, I grew up with a mother who was a normal mom, but she had some illnesses and then she had to go to the big city hospital, which was hours away. Now, no one decides like I wasn't in third grade or fifth grade and everyone's talking about
police officer. Oh no, I want to be a fireman. And I'm like, is death and grief available? I mean, no one thinks that, right? So it's a profession that chooses you. So she has to go to the hospital. We're there. You have to be 14 to visit. I'm 13. That was in the day when families were like a little bit of an interruption of the healing process. Spent a lot of time in the hospital lobby.
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