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Dragon Age & FC Underperform: Is EA in Trouble? - Kinda Funny Games Daily 01.24.25
Fri, 24 Jan 2025
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Chapter 1: What has caused EA to lose $6 billion in market value?
Okay. Yeah, I agree with you on multi-plat, right? When I read that, I do expect more than 1.5 million on a BioWare big RPG that should be hitting. It's been, what, eight years, almost a decade since the last one. People want this. They want to see what that talented team can do, and it just –
didn't hit it didn't seem to catch fire and like you said tim the gaming market is all over the place i mean we are in a stage where people are not getting off fortnight call of duty war zone they're playing games from 12 years ago that they just love and want to be a part of they're watching streamers play games and they're following those trends to play roblox now it's like it's a very interesting stage where when you have a talented team like bioware
putting out Dragon Age, a beloved franchise before, and now it just doesn't hit. That makes you scared of, uh-oh, are we on the right path here? And that also leads my mind to, that's why we see Sony do live service games and think that's the way, because you see a single-player game like this that you would bet on is probably going to hit, and then all of a sudden doesn't.
You go, oh, well, clearly the market doesn't want that.
Do I think that maybe the grander audience... was maybe a little bit more trepidatious this time around with a new Bioware release after Mass Effect, Andromeda, and then Anthem, right? Like, do you think there is a bit more hesitation that leads, that gives a bit more context around this, right?
Absolutely. Yeah. I still, you're so right, Barrett. I think that's very important to talk about. But I also think that $3 million still cannot be too lofty of an expectation for a game like this. Oh, yeah. That, again, is like when you're putting that much time, effort, budget, resources, marketing, all of it into this thing. Like $3 million for a game of this stature.
$3 million is a lot of sales, by the way. Like a freaking lot. Yeah. And you talking about the, Oh, people are playing call of duty. People are playing their 12 year old games, all that stuff. People are still buying games.
And when we see these big single player games getting into the 10 million up to 20 million sales, when you're talking about the big PlayStation stuff, you're talking about the big Nintendo stuff. It's like, it's not like, there's not a market of people out there to buy games like this at $70 to amount up to this number.
There's so many factors that go into this, but I will say like, this is one of those things. I, there's a lot of things you can point to and be like, this is why it happened. This is why it happened. This is why it happened. This is why it might've happened, all that. And they're all right. But the facts are the expectations were 3 million for dragon age veil guard. And it sold 1.5.
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Chapter 2: What are the implications of Dragon Age's underperformance?
Yeah. I would be truly surprised if someone looked at all of us and was like, FC actually changed the sales numbers, and people didn't buy it as often as FIFA did because they got confused or something. No, I don't think that at all. I think with the way the world is, they know exactly what FC25 was, which is FIFA. I think it is the ultimate team of burning people out.
I think every single year that you come out with the same thing, people eventually will slow down. There's no world cup happening right now. The Olympics drive a lot of that as well. Also just the day to day of, is this exciting? And I think, will we see in the next five years to slow down of these card games, like ultimate team in NBA, in FIFA, this might be a sign of the times that it could be.
Yeah.
And that is the thing about all of these different systems and microtransactions and even just annual releases of full price games and even just games that are buy it once and that's it. Like all these different ways of monetizing video game products are
There's timelines that I think eventually run out, and as the world and technology changes around them, you can't just get comfortable and be like, well, it's going to work this way forever. Because look what happens to physical media in so many different ways and what's happening to it, even now in video games. But when you look at music and movies and...
everything like that right things just change over time like the iPod came out and all of a sudden digital music is the way people listen to music and that changed how music is made Spotify comes out now you can stream anything without even buying stuff you just have a subscription that changed how music is made I think that we are at a point now that the live service kind of the ultimate team card based stuff that has worked so well for 10 years in these sports games right
Ultimate team? Yeah, maybe even longer, right?
Because I remember those back when I was at IGN.
Yeah, we definitely had a decade of that. Like that stuff, it might be reaching the end of the line. I still think it'll be here for a while, but there's going to be something new that comes in that everybody latches onto and kind of figures out and becomes a new thing because people just get over shit over time. And also just the money dries up. And once the money dries up, nobody's...
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Chapter 3: Are PS5 sales outperforming PS4?
You can go play this game on PlayStation. You can go play them on PC. You can play them on Switch, too. I just think they're opening the floodgates to that. Will it work? I don't know. Do I think it's weird? Abso-frickin-lutely. But that seems like where they're going.
Great. Hell yeah.
All right. Per, it's great to have you. Have a wonderful day. Have a great interview. Congratulations on 20 years.
Story number three.
Story number three. The Video Game History Foundation makes its digital library available to the public next week. This coming from Chris Scullion at VGC. The Video Game History Foundation, the VGHF, is making its digital library system available to the public for the first time next week.
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Chapter 4: How is the Xbox Series performing in comparison to the Xbox One?
Chapter 5: What is the future of EA's live service games?
this reminds me of like the ps3 and then the ps3 slim yes it's so wild because legitimately as then with the power of like a ps5 as they're presenting this on stage i'm expecting this thing to be seven times as thick as the rtx 4090 because i when jensen showed off the 4090 back in the day i was like whoa that thing is freaking huge chonker
How the hell is that going to... My old case, I couldn't have fit a 4090. Yeah, but this is just a good old two-slot. Yeah, a little two-slotter right here.
But it's also just incredibly thin, meaning that if you have any other slots on the back of your PC that you might want to put your Elgato capture card or whatever other sort of trinkets you want to attach to your motherboard, this is going to afford you a lot more space as well. While... giving you actually better kind of cooling because of the two-fan setup.
And looking at the ports here, we got, so there's three DisplayPort 2.1, one HDMI 2.1, and then thanks to the Blackwell Architectures Innovations and DLSS 4, the 5090 outperforms the 4090 by two times. Absolutely buck wild. There we go. Very excited. Andy, get out of here. Get it installed. Kevin, can you get this thing installed? It's like a hoverboard, Tim. Would you see what's happening?
It's like a hoverboard, dude. So cool. So excited about this. Welcome back to the stage. Thank you, NVIDIA, for sending us one and for letting me geek out about it. I'm so stoked to play some games. So cool.
Looks great, Tim.
Should we have NVIDIA send us something every day just to get Andy out of bed before noon?
Yeah.
Hey, that'll be good. Let's get him his... He's waking up early. He likes waking up early, he says. He likes waking up early, he says.
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Chapter 6: What concerns exist regarding Skate 4's development?
Chapter 7: How do microtransactions impact EA's revenue?
Chapter 8: What are the current trends in video game marketing?
With what just happened here?
Oh, I mean, I feel like everyone should be more worried about Mass Effect than Dragon Age to begin with because Andromeda, you know, like that's like the other big thing is like there wasn't a, and I'm speaking a little out of turn here because I'm not that up on Dragon Age, but in recent times, in recent generations, there hasn't been a bad Dragon Age, right?
Well, that's because there hasn't been a Dragon Age since.
But still, that's the thing. In terms of a franchise, it's not like the expectation was that Veilguard wasn't going to be good. Yeah. You know what I mean? Of course. But in terms of franchise, you look at Master. But in terms of developers, there was trepidation going into Veilguard because of Andromeda and Anthem and all of that stuff.
Oh, man. Let's jump into some super chats. Of course, don't forget, you can super chat with your thoughts and opinions throughout today's show anytime over on YouTube. And we'll get you involved in the conversation like, bam, 25 says, I feel the 3 million sales was a pretty reasonable goal being on three different platforms. These sales goals for Dragon Age doesn't feel like a square thing.
Like you said before, Tim, being multi-plat, I think that goal should have been achievable there. And then EJ writes in and says, as a longtime Dragon 8s fan, I 100%ed Bailguard, and I was incredibly disappointed with it. Lacking connection to the past games and the writing quality, the low sales doesn't surprise me. So there you go. A big fan who played a lot of it isn't surprised by that at all.
Let's talk about FIFA though. Let's talk about it. That's a big one there, Tim. Of course, FIFA FC 25 slowing down during the Christmas period. When you think that would pick up a big live service game, their yearly annual title that is, you know, really boosted by, by this analyst saying 8 million, 800 million is made up by the ultimate team sales.
So Mike, this is a, me definitely asking you as the sports guy, me as a loser that has never touched a ball in my life. Um, Do you think this has anything to do, and am I even right in bringing this up as a question, that it's not FIFA anymore, that it's FC? No, not at all.
I don't think the title change changed.
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