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Cybersecurity Veteran Built His Own AI Clone (Then Warned About What Comes Next)

07 Oct 2025

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What happens when a cybersecurity expert who defended against nation-state attacks for 30 years warns that major AI companies will face massive security breaches? In this episode of Lead with AI, Dr. Tamara Nall sits down with Ron Gula, co-founder of Gula Tech Adventures, who took Tenable Network Security public after 16 years as CEO and now invests in 30+ cybersecurity and AI startups. Gula reveals that AI has already embedded itself invisibly into the business tools you use daily, from animation software to development platforms, without most leaders realizing it. He's created a 3D avatar of himself that holds independent conversations, demonstrating how AI can scale expertise while raising questions about security vulnerabilities nobody's discussing. Gula shares his prediction that synthetic data will degrade AI quality, similar to how a Harrier jet crashes when re-ingesting its own exhaust, and why he tells founders to hire 3-5 developers instead of 15 by leveraging AI effectively. For business leaders navigating AI adoption, Gula introduces the concept of "data care" as essential as healthcare and challenges you to assess whether your AI dependencies will become critical vulnerabilities when breaches occur.Follow or Subscribe to Lead with AI Podcast on your favorite platforms:Website: https://leadwithaipodcast.comApple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/lead-with-ai/id1802979004Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/01BFepfiNGP9pOrqWpmkudPodbean: https://www.podbean.com/podcast-detail/8jf45-349988/Lead-With-AI-PodcastEmail: [email protected] Dr. Tamara Nall:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tamaranall/Website: https://tamaranall.com/Email: [email protected] Ron GulaWebsite: https://www.gula.tech/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/gula-tech-adventuresYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@GulaTechAdventuresLinkedIn:   https://www.linkedin.com/in/rongula/

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