Leading Complexity
Episodes
#43 - Tomas is being Interviewed by Portia Tung
12 Nov 2025
Contributed by Lukas
In this special episode of the Leading Complexity Podcast, things take an unexpected turn — The host Tomas hands over the interviewing part to Porti...
#42 - Linda Rising
03 Oct 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Listen to Linda Rising on Why Smart Groups Can Make Dumb DecisionsIn this episode, we welcome back Linda Rising, researcher and author known for her w...
#41 - Interview with James Priest
01 Oct 2025
Contributed by Lukas
In this episode of the Leading Complexity Podcast, Michael Göthe sits down with James Priest, co-developer of Sociocracy 3.0 and one of the world’s...
#40 - Interview with Sam Isaacson
26 Sep 2025
Contributed by Lukas
In this episode of the Leading Complexity Podcast, Michael Göthe sits down with Sam Isaacson — executive coach, consultant, author, and founder of ...
#39 - Nils Janse
22 Sep 2025
Contributed by Lukas
In this episode of the Leading Complexity podcast, Tomas Björkholm sits down with Nils Janse, co-founder of Bandley AI, author of "AI Agents: Mu...
#38 - Jurgen Appelo
18 Sep 2025
Contributed by Lukas
SummaryIn this episode of the Leading Complexity podcast, Michael Göthe interviews Jurgen Appelo, an influential figure in management and agile pract...
#37 - Jeff Sutherland
15 Sep 2025
Contributed by Lukas
In this episode of Leading Complexity, Tomas Björkholm sits down with Dr. Jeff Sutherland – co-founder of Scrum, co-author of the Agile Manifesto, ...
#36 - Portia Tung
12 Sep 2025
Contributed by Lukas
In this conversation, Portia Tung and Michael Göthe explore the significance of play in leadership and organizational culture. Portia shares her jour...
#35 - Jonathan Reams
08 Sep 2025
Contributed by Lukas
How to Lead and Not Be Led by AI in Complexity — with Jonathan ReamsIn this episode of the Leading Complexity Podcast, we sit down with long-time Cr...
#34 - Interview with Samraaj Bath from Ion Design
29 Aug 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Join us for an inspiring conversation with Samraaj Bath, CEO of Ion Design and a two-time Y Combinator founder.In this interview, Samraaj shares:His j...
#33 - John Cutler
01 Apr 2025
Contributed by Lukas
In this episode of Leading Complexity, hosts Tomas Björkholm and Michael Göthe talk with John Cutler—product thinker, UX veteran, and writer of th...
#32 - Jennifer Garvey Berger
25 Mar 2025
Contributed by Lukas
In this episode of Leading Complexity, Tomas Björkholm and Michael Göthe explore how we can turn complexity from a stress factor into a creative for...
#31 - Doug Kirkpatrick
18 Mar 2025
Contributed by Lukas
In this episode of Leading Complexity, hosts Tomas Björkholm and Michael Göthe dive into self-organizing organizations with Doug Kirkpatrick, former...
#30 - Lyssa Adkins
11 Mar 2025
Contributed by Lukas
In this episode, hosts Tomas Björkholm and Michael Göthe sit down with Lyssa Adkins, renowned Agile coach and author of Coaching Agile Teams. Togeth...
#29 - Marty Cagan
04 Mar 2025
Contributed by Lukas
In this episode of Leading Complexity, Tomas Björkholm and Michael Göthe listen to Marty Cagan, the renowned author of Inspired, Empowered, and Tran...
#28 - Linda Rising (reflections)
25 Feb 2025
Contributed by Lukas
In this episode of Leading Complexity, hosts Tomas Björkholm and Michael Göthe dive deeper into their interview with Linda Rising, the renowned auth...
#27 - Linda Rising (part 2)
18 Feb 2025
Contributed by Lukas
In this episode of the Leading Complexity podcast, hosts Tomas Björkholm and Michael Göthe listen to and reflect on their inspiring interview with L...
#26 - Linda Rising (part 1)
11 Feb 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Join hosts Tomas Björkholm and Michael Göthe as they talk with Linda Rising, known as the queen of patterns and author of books like “Design Patte...
#25 - AI with Henrik Kniberg
04 Feb 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Join hosts Tomas Björkholm and Michael Göthe for a thought-provoking discussion on the transformative potential of generative AI in the workplace on...
#24 - Peter Senge
28 Jan 2025
Contributed by Lukas
In this episode of the Leading Complexity podcast, hosts Tomas Björkholm and Michael Göthe sit down with renowned systems thinker Peter Senge, autho...
#23 - Teresa Torres
21 Jan 2025
Contributed by Lukas
In this episode of the Leading Complexity podcast, hosts Tomas Björkholm and Michael Göthe dive into a thought-provoking conversation with Teresa To...
#22 - Interview with Jurriaan Kamer (part 2)
17 Dec 2024
Contributed by Lukas
In this episode of the Leading Complexity podcast, hosts Tomas Björkholm and Michael Göthe continue their conversation with Jurriaan Kamer, author o...
#21 - Interview with Jurriaan Kamer
10 Dec 2024
Contributed by Lukas
In this episode of the Leading Complexity podcast, hosts Tomas Björkholm and Michael Göthe dive into the world of organizational unblocking with Jur...
#20 - Interview with Bjarte Bogsnes
03 Dec 2024
Contributed by Lukas
In this episode of Leading Complexity, Tomas Björkholm and Michael Göthe sit down with Bjarte Bogsnes, the pioneer behind Beyond Budgeting, to explo...
#19 - Interview with Mary Poppendieck
26 Nov 2024
Contributed by Lukas
In episode 19 of the Leading Complexity Podcast, hosts Tomas Björkholm and Michael Göthe engage in an insightful conversation with Mary Poppendieck,...
#18 - Interview with Stephen Bungay
19 Nov 2024
Contributed by Lukas
In episode 18 of the Leading Complexity Podcast, hosts Tomas Björkholm and Michael Göthe engage with Stephen Bungay, strategist, author, and expert ...
#17 - Interview with Matthew Skelton
12 Nov 2024
Contributed by Lukas
In episode 17 of the Leading Complexity Podcast, hosts Tomas Björkholm and Michael Göthe sit down with Matthew Skelton, co-author of Team Topologies...
#16 - Interview with Petra Wille
05 Nov 2024
Contributed by Lukas
In this episode, hosts Tomas Björkholm and Michael Göthe engage with Petra Wille, renowned product leadership coach and author of "Strong Product Pe...
#15 - Interview with Jos de Blok
29 Oct 2024
Contributed by Lukas
In this episode of "Leading Complexity", Tomas Björkholm and Michael Göthe dive into an inspiring conversation with Jos de Blok, founder and CEO of ...
#14 - Interview with Joe Justice
22 Oct 2024
Contributed by Lukas
In this episode of the Leading Complexity podcast, hosts Tomas Björkholm and Michael Göthe interview Joe Justice, a pioneer in Agile hardware deve...
#13 – Interview with Dave Snowden
15 Oct 2024
Contributed by Lukas
In this episode of the Leading Complexity podcast, Tomas Björkholm and Michael Göthe interview Dave Snowden, the founder of the Cynefin framework, a...
#12 – Interview with Nand Kishore Chaudhary (NKC)
08 Oct 2024
Contributed by Lukas
In this episode of the Leading Complexity video podcast, Tomas Björkholm and Michael Göthe interview Nand Kishore Chaudhary (NKC), a renowned social...
#11 – Interview with Henrik Kniberg
01 Oct 2024
Contributed by Lukas
In this episode of the Leading Complexity video podcast, Tomas Björkholm and Michael Göthe dive into an insightful conversation with Henrik Kniberg,...
#10 - Interview with Sonja Blignaut
24 Sep 2024
Contributed by Lukas
In this episode of the Leading Complexity podcast, hosts Tomas Björkholm and Michael Göthe dive into a conversation with Sonja Blignaut, creator of ...
#9 - Interview with Kent Beck
17 Sep 2024
Contributed by Lukas
In this episode of the *Leading Complexity* video podcast, hosts Tomas Björkholm and Michael Göthe dive into an insightful conversation with Kent Be...
#8 - Interview with Simon Wardley
10 Sep 2024
Contributed by Lukas
In this episode of the Leading Complexity video podcast, hosts Tomas Björkholm and Michael Göthe interview Simon Wardley, the creator of Wardley Map...
#7 - Interview with Annika Steiber
03 Sep 2024
Contributed by Lukas
In this episode, hosts Tomas Björkholm and Michael Göthe sit down with Annika Steiber, a renowned researcher in innovation management and author of ...
#6 – Interview with Gary Hamel
27 Aug 2024
Contributed by Lukas
In this episode, Tomas and Michael interview Gary Hamel, one of the most influential and iconoclastic business thinkers of our time. Gary shares his r...
#5 – Interview with Woody Zuill
20 Aug 2024
Contributed by Lukas
In this episode, Tomas Björkholm and Michael Göthe, are excited to talk with Woody Zuill, the creator of mob programming, now known as software te...
#4 - Interview with Bonnitta Roy
13 Aug 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Join Tomas Björkholm and Michael Göthe as they dive into an insightful conversation with Bonitta Roy, followed by their thoughtful reflections on he...
#3 - Interview with Erin Meyer
06 Aug 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Michael Göthe and Tomas Björkholm are listening to the interview with Erin Meyer and reflects on the content. Erin Meyer, the co-author of “No Rul...
#2 - Interview with Peter Block
31 Jul 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Michael Göthe and Tomas Björkholm are listening to an interview with Peter Block and give their reflections on what Peter calls Leader as a Convener...
#1 - Interview with Esther Derby
24 Jul 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Michael Göthe and Tomas Björkholm listen to an interview with Esther Derby, a well-known thought leader within the Agile community, and give their r...