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“No-one in my org puts money in their pension”

18 Feb 2024

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Full Episode

0.031 - 12.544 Tobes (author/narrator of the LessWrong linkpost)

No one in my org puts money in their pension. By Tobes. This is a link post for, link in text, epistemic status. The stories here are all as true as possible from memory, but my memory is so so.

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13.527 - 25.667 TYPE III AUDIO (narration/heading captions)

There's an image here, with the caption. An AI made this. Heading. This is going to be big. It's late summer 2017. I am on a walk in the Mendip Hills.

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26.748 - 48.275 Tobes (author/narrator of the LessWrong linkpost)

It's warm and sunny and the air feels fresh. With me are around 20 other people from the Effective Altruism London community. We've travelled west for a retreat to discuss how to help others more effectively with our donations and careers. As we cross cow field after cow field, I get talking to one of the people from the group I don't know yet. He seems smart and cheerful.

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49.317 - 71.81 Tobes (author/narrator of the LessWrong linkpost)

He tells me that he is an AI researcher at Google DeepMind. He explains how he is thinking about how to make sure that any powerful AI system actually does what we want it to. I ask him if we are going to build artificial intelligence that can do anything that a human can do. Yes, and soon, he says, and it will be the most important thing that humanity has ever done. I find this surprising.

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72.811 - 96.204 Tobes (author/narrator of the LessWrong linkpost)

It would be very weird if humanity was on the cusp of the most important world-changing invention ever, and so few people were seriously talking about it. I don't really believe him. Heading. This is going to be bad. It is midsummer 2018 and I am cycling around Richmond Park in South West London. It's very hot and I am a little concerned that I am sweating off all my sun cream.

97.265 - 118.877 Tobes (author/narrator of the LessWrong linkpost)

After having many other surprising conversations about AI, like the one I had in the Mendips, I have decided to read more about it. I am listening to an audiobook of Superintelligence by Nick Bostrom. As I cycle in loops around the park, I listen to Bostrom describe a world in which we have created super-intelligent AI. He seems to think the risk that this will go wrong is very high.

119.918 - 141.932 Tobes (author/narrator of the LessWrong linkpost)

He explains how scarily counterintuitive the power of an entity that is vastly more intelligent than a human is. He talks about the concept of orthogonality. The idea that there is no intrinsic reason that the intelligence of a system is related to its motivation to do things we want, for example not kill us. He talks about how power-seeking is useful for a very wide range of possible goals.

142.993 - 166.338 Tobes (author/narrator of the LessWrong linkpost)

He also talks through a long list of ways we might try to avoid it going very wrong. He then spends a lot of time describing why many of these ideas won't work. I wonder if this is all true. It sounds like science fiction, so while I notice some vague discomfort with the ideas, I don't feel that concerned. I am still sweating, and am quite worried about getting sunburnt. Heading.

167.22 - 186.199 Tobes (author/narrator of the LessWrong linkpost)

It's a long way off though. It's still summer 2018 and I am in an Italian restaurant in West London. I am at an event for people working in policy who want to have more impact. I am talking to two other attendees about AI. Bostrom's arguments have now been swimming around my mind for several weeks.

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