#89 – Stephen Wolfram: Cellular Automata, Computation, and Physics

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What is Stephen Wolfram's background and significance?

Lex Fridman 0:00
The following is a conversation with Stephen Wolfram, a computer scientist, mathematician, and theoretical physicist who is the founder and CEO of Wolfram Research, a company behind Mathematica, Wolfram Alpha, Wolfram Language, and the new Wolfram Physics Project. He's the author of several books, including A New Kind of Science, which, on a personal note, was one of the most influential books in my journey in computer science and artificial intelligence. It made me fall in love with the mathematical beauty and power of cellular automata. It is true that perhaps one of the criticisms of Stephen is on a human level, that he has a big ego, which prevents some researchers from fully enjoying the content of his ideas.
Lex Fridman 0:46
We talk about this point in this conversation. To me, ego can lead you astray, but can also be a superpower, one that fuels bold, innovative thinking that refuses to surrender to the cautious ways of academic institutions. And here, especially, I ask you to join me in looking past the peculiarities of human nature and opening your mind to the beauty of ideas in Stephen's work and in this conversation. I believe Stephen Wolfram is one of the most original minds of our time and, at the core, is a kind, curious, and brilliant human being. This conversation was recorded in November 2019 when the Wolfram Physics Project was underway but not yet ready for public exploration as it is now. We now agreed to talk again, probably multiple times in the near future.
Lex Fridman 1:36
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How does ego influence scientific research?

Lex Fridman 3:52
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Lex Fridman 4:34
You and your son, Christopher, helped create the alien language in the movie Arrival.

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