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24 Jun 2026

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Chapter 1: What is the rat infestation problem discussed in this episode?

0.031 - 5.74 Ciarán McCarthy

Robert Rafferty is on the line. Robert, tell me about this problem you are having at home.

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6.941 - 11.368 Robert Rafferty

Well, first of all, I'd like to thank you for having me on the show. I really appreciate it.

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11.388 - 11.709 Ciarán McCarthy

Thank you.

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13.491 - 44.482 Robert Rafferty

Much appreciated. Yeah, so, where do I begin with this? Yeah, so the nightmare has been going on now a couple of weeks now. I'd say about three weeks now. And basically, we have a very bad rat problem around the area. in Clondalkin. And he had managed to get into the home, into the house. And it's just now, it's just been the worst couple of weeks of me life, basically.

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45.644 - 49.51 Ciarán McCarthy

So how many rats are we talking about in and around the house?

50.912 - 68.619 Robert Rafferty

So basically what happened was one ran in through the front door, which we see in. and we thought it was just a stray one because this had happened back in 2019 where one ran in through the front door as well. We didn't see it. It got up the stairs, and it caused havoc.

68.639 - 85.54 Robert Rafferty

At that time in 2019, my wife was pregnant, and to say that she had to leave the house because she was pregnant with the disease that the rats carry, she had to leave, and the rat had to be caught while she was out of the house. Now, that was just an aptitude. Sorry, that was just maybe a rat that just came in,

86.026 - 110.92 Robert Rafferty

and what happened then was, so fast forward on now, the same thing happened, ran in through the door, but it started getting worse than that, so what had happened was, he ran in through the door, and we thought it was just one that ran in, and went into the kitchen, couldn't catch it, so it got underneath the kitchen unit, so we took the kitchen unit down, the bar down, laid a trap, and later on that night,

111.372 - 116.297 Robert Rafferty

When we woke up the next morning, we heard a snap and it had been found and we thought everything was done and dusted.

Chapter 2: How did the rat enter the home?

117.419 - 140.063 Robert Rafferty

So fast forward on then a week later, after we thought everything was done and dusted, we were sitting in the sitting room having dinner on a Saturday night as a normal family does. And we heard a noise coming from underneath the floorboard and going through where we have a fireplace, but it's not a fireplace. It's just a muck for you on the wall that you're torn in.

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140.38 - 160.218 Robert Rafferty

and there's a box beside that, and we heard rustling in there. So we just thought it was an imagination thing to say that you're hearing something after having something like that in your home. But the next morning, we came down, and we came down for breakfast, and we had noticed that food had been pulled into the back of the press and had been eaten, and there was all droppings there.

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162 - 188.135 Robert Rafferty

So then the first thing we done was we pulled down the plant again, laid more traps, took all the food out, We had to go out, we had to buy containers to put all the Delphine, wash them, bleach them, put the containers in, and then we proceeded. We thought it was just downstairs and we were able to contain it. But then later on that night, we seen one in my little girl's room. So you saw it?

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188.155 - 205.875 Robert Rafferty

We saw it and we ended up catching it. And the wife caught it. How did she catch it? She caught it underneath a mixing bowl, believe it or not. What was she doing upstairs in a mixing bowl? Because we had the little one asleep and we took her out of the bed and put her in the air room and

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206.142 - 226.23 Robert Rafferty

The only way to catch it would be with a mixing bowl to put it down because it looked like it didn't know where it was going because it didn't have the layout of the room. So it was running back and forward. It was scared. So we caught it underneath a mixing bowl and then we proceeded then to keep it there because we couldn't get anything to keep it out.

226.25 - 251.841 Robert Rafferty

So eventually we were able to slide something under the bowl, get it out of the house and just dispose of it. It was still alive. So then we brought it over, we put it in a cardboard box and we brought it back around to where the river is and we just let it loose there because obviously that's where it came from. So it was in the bowl.

252.022 - 274.521 Robert Rafferty

So eventually then what happened then was there was three more down the back garden and one managed to get into the shed. So at the side of the house, The one that got in ate through all the expanding foam and got into the pipe and that's how we got into the kitchen. Ate a hole underneath where the kitchen sink was and he was roaming about.

275.162 - 293.719 Robert Rafferty

So we just laid traps down and we put some bait down for him and eventually he ate the bait and then eventually then he ended up dying then. But the one that's still in the shed, I don't know whether he's there or not, but we haven't seen any more activity down the back garden. Have you been in the shed? I've been in the shed, but I haven't had the smell.

293.779 - 312.681 Robert Rafferty

Once you've had anything like that in your house, the smell once, it will never leave your memory or it will never leave your sense of smell because you know what that smell smells like. It's absolutely horrific. And I wouldn't wish this upon my worst enemy. I wouldn't wish it upon, not that I have any, but I wouldn't wish it upon anybody out there.

Chapter 3: What steps were taken to catch the rat?

423.903 - 425.305 Robert Rafferty

You have to make it work for a bad situation.

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429.37 - 433.215 Ciarán McCarthy

So are you all still, you mentioned your wife, you've mentioned your daughter. Are you all still in the house?

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434.326 - 458.453 Robert Rafferty

The daughter is back now, but we've had the child's grandmother living with us, but we had to move her out of the house because she has cancer. So we had to move her out. We had to move her into accommodation. And that's where most of our money was spent on putting her there. So we were absolutely skint because we had to throw out all our field.

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458.533 - 472.585 Robert Rafferty

We had to throw three to four hundred yards worth of field. We had to throw out clothes. You had to throw everything basically that was in the press and buy on new stuff to put back to replace.

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472.605 - 483.944 Ciarán McCarthy

So, I mean, I don't know how old your daughter is, but I mean, are you able to explain to her, you know, not to kind of touch things around the house and then touch her face or touch her mouth? Or is she too young to explain all of that?

483.964 - 489.072 Robert Rafferty

It's very hard to explain to a six-year-old not to walk on floors with no

489.997 - 518.198 Robert Rafferty

with no shoes on or not to touch anything and it's very hard to explain after you touch something you have to wash your hands so we were just better off just removing her out while this was going on and still now we're still on tenderhooks so there's hand sanitizer everywhere now I know that everything is clean because I've washed the floor a dozen a hundred times everything is being bleached everything is being bleached down but once you have this fear

518.532 - 525.979 Robert Rafferty

of something like that being in your house, every little movement out of the corner of your eye, what's that? What's that? What's that? Your mind starts to play tricks on you.

526.439 - 528.381 Ciarán McCarthy

So do you think there's any in the house at the moment?

Chapter 4: What challenges did the host face during the rat infestation?

612.715 - 618.724 Robert Rafferty

They got in touch with Irish Water and running for me. So they were very good with that.

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620.166 - 627.817 Ciarán McCarthy

So where does that leave you though, Robert? I mean, have you got many traps then out and around the house at the moment to try and catch them?

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629.019 - 651.142 Robert Rafferty

So outside, they're put down in a way that you have to be you have to protect the wood. So you have to put them in a way that boards can't get at them. They're putting houses, like little bait houses, that only their own mice can get into. So they're put there. But the one in the shed, there's traps in the shed.

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651.342 - 661.433 Ciarán McCarthy

And are you checking those bait boxes then to see if they're gnawing on the bait? Basically, yes. That's what you have to do, yeah. And are they? They're still gnawing away on it?

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662.273 - 685.969 Robert Rafferty

not that I can see now the one in the shed I'm going to have to clear it out the shed totally once I get a whiff of or a stench from you're waiting for the smell of a dead rat before you open the door of that shed is that what you're telling me pretty much yeah pretty much yeah yeah pretty much because yeah you have to be very careful um

686.303 - 691.549 Ciarán McCarthy

Is it Veal's disease? Viles disease? I don't know how you pronounce it. Yeah. Tryptospirosis. Yeah.

691.889 - 713.793 Robert Rafferty

So basically they're lethal once. You wouldn't think if it had been raining or like you put your hand down and you pick something up and you're not aware and then two seconds later you put your hand to your mouth or you touch your face maybe a thousand times a day. You touch your face a thousand times a day. You rub your chin. You rub your head. So it's just human nature that you do that.

714.253 - 720.368 Robert Rafferty

So I'm not going through about three or four hundred pairs of disposable gloves in about three weeks.

720.828 - 735.447 Ciarán McCarthy

Yeah, an uncle of mine got it on a farm. Lots of farmers would get it because, you know, there'd be rats with his food in a farmyard. Yeah, exactly. And it can make you very sick. You can die of it. You're going to, is it kidney failure or liver failure? You're certainly going to organ failure.

Chapter 5: How do rats impact the household environment?

885.801 - 907.945 Ginny Andersen

And if they are in Robert's shed, they're not waiting for him to open the door. They have their own way in and out. They have a hole somewhere. And I discovered them about a year and a half ago, and it's still going on. I've spent thousands of euros trying to rat-proof my house. Sorry, Rachel, how did you discover them?

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907.985 - 908.946 Ciarán McCarthy

What was the first sign?

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910.628 - 933.694 Ginny Andersen

My washing machine packed up basically in February 2025 and at the start of the month and end of January kind of and I pulled it out to see if the filter was blocked or whatever and I discovered loads of droppings behind it and then my dad came in and we pulled it out and we pulled off kickboards and discovered an absolute horror show under the kitchen and

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933.893 - 942.041 Ginny Andersen

then discovered that they'd gone up inside the sides of the oven and they'd been in there for the heat and they were eating crumbs on the floor.

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942.061 - 947.466 Ciarán McCarthy

Oh, stop, Rachel. They were warming themselves in your oven where you were cooking your dinner.

947.566 - 948.927 Ginny Andersen

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

949.328 - 950.849 Ciarán McCarthy

Oh, God, sorry, I feel nauseous.

950.869 - 954.893 Ginny Andersen

Yeah, I know. And it gets worse. I mean, there was no sound.

954.913 - 955.954 Ciarán McCarthy

Oh, no, go on, keep going.

Chapter 6: What are the health risks associated with rat infestations?

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And these are sewer racks that are coming down. So if that's any help to you all, I have the card. He's a brilliant man, brilliant company, and stays with us for weeks after everything was sorted to make sure everything was still okay.

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2926.477 - 2934.107 Ginny Andersen

Yeah, I wouldn't mind getting that actually from you because I need to find out, you know, if someone can help me with the electric and the gas.

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2934.425 - 2945.081

Yeah, they said that you have to find out how they're getting in, where they're coming from. And it was true. We had to dig up her patio. We did dig up the patio, get to the manhole, and there was the hole that they were getting into.

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2945.121 - 2962.346 Ciarán McCarthy

What we'll do is we'll, off air then, Lorraine, Rachel, we'll get that detail, the details of who Lorraine used, and we'll get them over to you and see if they can help you as well. I mean, when you had the problem then, Lorraine, what was it like? When you could hear them running around.

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I heard scratching. I heard noise. I heard scratching. And because I've experienced a few years ago, I'll never forget that noise. And I went, I'm not going through this again. Our whole house was literally dug up in the hall and everything the previous years. And we were on holiday. So we came back to the north and we went, no, couldn't be, couldn't be. But these were too loud. They weren't mice.

2980.657 - 2981.198 Bruno Satin

Oh, God.

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But this company was brilliant. Yeah.

2987.463 - 2990.847 Ciarán McCarthy

Yeah, you'd know it's a rat, would you, Rachel, rather than a mouse?

2991.789 - 3005.707 Ginny Andersen

Oh, you just know. Yeah, and sometimes people would say, but is that not your heating? And you kind of think, no, there is a difference. I'm telling you it's a rat. It is a rat. It's just, you just know, you can sense it. Yeah.

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