Macro N Cheese
Episodes
Ep 378 - Revisiting the Stalin Eras Part 2: Context Not Caricature with Jeremy of Proles Pod
02 May 2026
Contributed by Lukas
** Macro ‘n Chill is our weekly online gathering where we listen to the podcast episode and talk about it among friends. This Tuesday, Jeremy of Pro...
Ep 377 - Revisiting the Stalin Eras Part 1: Understanding Democratic Centralism with Jeremy of ProlesPod
25 Apr 2026
Contributed by Lukas
** Come to Macro ‘n Chill, our online community gathering, where we listen to and discuss the current episode. This week, Jeremy of Proles Pod will ...
Ep 376 - Modern Monetary Theory & the Question of Democracy with Jim Byrne
18 Apr 2026
Contributed by Lukas
** Questions about MMT? Thoughts about the episode? Come to our online gathering, Macro ‘n Chill. Tuesday, April 21, 8pm ET/5pm PT. Use this link to...
Ep 375 - (R)evolutionary Struggle with Steve Grumbine
11 Apr 2026
Contributed by Lukas
** This week’s Macro ‘n Chill might shake us up. Some of us, at least. Come discuss the episode with the community. Tues, April 14, 8pm ET/5pm PT....
Ep 374 - Escape From Capitalism with Clara Mattei
04 Apr 2026
Contributed by Lukas
Join our community on Tuesday evening as we listen to and discuss this episode. April 7th at 8pm ET/5pm PT. Use this link to register: https://us06web...
Ep 373 - Is There A Path To Fiat Socialism? with Carlos García Hernández
28 Mar 2026
Contributed by Lukas
** Have you been coming to Macro ‘n Chill on Tuesday evenings? It’s the onli...
Ep 372 - Crisis of Hegemony & the Vassalization of Europe with Thomas Fazi
21 Mar 2026
Contributed by Lukas
** Tuesday evening, March 24, we’ll be listening to and discussing this episode in our online gathering, Macro ‘n Chill. Register here: https://us...
Ep 371 - You Can't Vote Away Colonialism with Fadhel Kaboub
14 Mar 2026
Contributed by Lukas
** Join our community-building online gathering where we listen to the episode together and discuss it in a relaxed, supportive atmosphere. Tuesday, M...
Ep 370 - Empire & Exodus with Erald Kolasi
07 Mar 2026
Contributed by Lukas
** We’ll discuss this episode on Tuesday, March 10th (8 pm ET/5 pm PT) in our online community gathering, Macro ‘n Chill. We’ve invited Erald Ko...
Ep 369 - Sarah Connor Warned Us with Peter Byrne
28 Feb 2026
Contributed by Lukas
While we’re being distracted by chatbots and AI gimmicks, Silicon Valley is quietly embedding its products into surveillance systems, border enforce...
Ep 368 - Socialism Unmade: Confronting Five Centuries of Capital with Ali Kadri
21 Feb 2026
Contributed by Lukas
“...Some are dancing, some are drowning, but in the end everybody’s going to go under.”Dr. Ali Kadri (Sun Yat-sen University), author of the Unm...
Ep 367 - MMT & Marxism: Finding Common Ground with Owen Bennett
14 Feb 2026
Contributed by Lukas
** Tuesday evening we’ll be listening to and discussing this episode of the podcast in our virtual community gathering. All are invited to Macro ‘...
Ep 366 - Who Paid the Pipers of Western Marxism? with Gabriel Rockhill
07 Feb 2026
Contributed by Lukas
** Every Tuesday evening, we host an online gathering of friends and newcomers, listening to and discussing our podcast. 8pm ET/5pm PT. Join us! After...
Ep 365 - Funding White Supremacy with Robert B. Williams
31 Jan 2026
Contributed by Lukas
Funding white supremacy is a core, not incidental, function of the modern capitalist state in the U.S. It is also the title of economist Robert B. Wil...
Ep 364 - State Money, Class Struggle with Anthony Anastasi
24 Jan 2026
Contributed by Lukas
We’ve made the case before, but it bears repeating: MMT is a politically neutral, descriptive lens explaining the operational realities of a soverei...
Ep 363 - Venezuela's Unfinished Revolution with Ricardo Vaz
17 Jan 2026
Contributed by Lukas
** Further questions about this episode? You’re in luck. Tuesday evening, January 20th, Ricardo Vaz will be with us during Macro ‘n Chill, our onl...
Ep 362 - Debunking the Institutional Theory of Economic Development with Erald Kolasi
10 Jan 2026
Contributed by Lukas
** We’ll be discussing this episode on Tuesday, January 13th (8 pm ET/5 pm PT) in our online gathering, Macro ‘n Chill. We’ve invited Erald Kola...
Ep 361 - Discernment in the Age of Disinformation with Andy Lee Roth & Shealeigh Voitl
03 Jan 2026
Contributed by Lukas
Shealeigh Voitl and Andy Lee Roth join Steve to talk about Project Censored’s State of the Free Press 2025. The book – an annual publication – c...
Ep 360 - Care Theory of Value with Emma Holten
27 Dec 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Let’s face it, even “good” macro talk can fall into the trap of treating the economy like a tidy spreadsheet while real lives get crushed in the...
Ep 359 - Epstein: Power, Corruption & Media Complicity with Nolan Higdon
20 Dec 2025
Contributed by Lukas
For a masterclass in true bipartisanship, look no further than the guest list of Jeffrey Epstein! We all love a good conspiracy story, but it’s ofte...
Ep 358 - Now Is the Time of Monsters: Gramsci on Counterrevolution with Vijay Prashad
13 Dec 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Historian and journalist Vijay Prashad talks with Steve about why Antonio Gramsci still matters. Listeners to this podcast know that we have ...
Ep 357 - Socialism with Chinese Characteristics with Yan Liang
06 Dec 2025
Contributed by Lukas
In today’s world, anyone serious about anti-imperialism, global development, and monetary sovereignty needs to break through the well-funded US...
Ep 356 - Scotland's Economic Suicide Pact? with Will Thomson
29 Nov 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Steve and his guest, Scottish political economist William Thomson, use the fight over Scotland’s independence to ...
Ep 355 - Dialectics of Dominance with Aaron Good
22 Nov 2025
Contributed by Lukas
“We’re at an inflection point – a civilizational crisis. Western imperial dominance is ending, and its dying spasms are only accelerating the co...
Ep 354 - The Fed As a Weapon of Class Power with L. Randall Wray
15 Nov 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Randy: “We’re supposed to believe the central bank manages inflation by using interest rates?" Steve: “It’s ridiculous.” ...
Ep 353 - Dollars for Oligarchs, Austerity for Argentina with Daniel Kostzer
08 Nov 2025
Contributed by Lukas
** Want to take a deeper dive into this podcast? Join us on Tuesday evenings for Macro ‘n Chill, where we listen to the most recent episode tog...
Ep 352 - Nothing to Hide with Heidi Boghosian
01 Nov 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Heidi Boghosian is an attorney, author, and co-host of Law and Disorder podcast and radio show. She joins Steve to discuss how the US&n...
Ep 351 - Born on Third Base with Steve Hall
25 Oct 2025
Contributed by Lukas
"The self-made man is a lie that we have taught people to keep them from complaining, to keep them from whining, to keep them from asking for better f...
Ep 350 - Naked Corruption with Bill Black
18 Oct 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Do you know what kakistocracy means? You’ll find out in this episode with guest Bill Black. Because, yeah, this is an educational podcast. A lot of ...
Ep 349 - Cultural Syndromes of Capitalism with David Fields
11 Oct 2025
Contributed by Lukas
**This week’s Macro ‘n Chill gathering should be a lively one. Whenever we dive into the topic of cultural hegemony, it sparks a th...
Ep 348 - Gaza: Digital Colonialism & Resistance with Omar Zahzah
04 Oct 2025
Contributed by Lukas
The Palestinian liberation struggle is a fundamental class and anti-colonial issue. First-time guest to the podcast, Professor Omar Zahzah, talks...
Ep 347 - Libertarianism vs. Reality with Brett Scott
27 Sep 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Economic anthropologist Brett Scott, the author of Cloud Money, talks with Steve about libertarianism’s big lie. Or lies – plural.From a class per...
Ep 346 - MMT: Why Our Allies Ignore Us with Yeva Nersisyan
20 Sep 2025
Contributed by Lukas
** You are invited to attend Macro ‘n Chill, our community building online gathering where we discuss the current episode of the podcast. Tuesday, S...
Ep 345 - Argentina: IMF, MMT, Class Warfare with Daniel Conceição
13 Sep 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Our friend Daniel Conceição is back for his sixth(!) time on Macro N Cheese. He and Steve share their critique of "neutral" or academic MMT that avo...
Ep 344 - The Unstable Genius Act with Bob Hockett
06 Sep 2025
Contributed by Lukas
** Tuesday evening, Bob will join our weekly online gathering where we’ll listen to the podcast together and discuss. Bring your questions for ...
Ep 343 - Imports Are A Benefit, Exports Are A Cost? with William Mitchell
30 Aug 2025
Contributed by Lukas
In our 14th episode with Australian economist Bill Mitchell, the conversation focuses on the MMT perspective on international trade. Bill explains wha...
Ep 342 - From Corbyn to Palestine: an MMT Analysis with Chris Williamson
23 Aug 2025
Contributed by Lukas
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Ep 341 - AI's Hidden Thirst with Erald Kolasi
16 Aug 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Our friend, physicist and economist Erald Kolasi, stops by the Macro N Cheese clubhouse to talk with Steve about the profound effects of AI on th...
Ep 340 - Humanode: One Person, One Vote with Victor Vernissage
09 Aug 2025
Contributed by Lukas
**Our weekly online gathering, Macro ‘n Chill is the perfect place to discuss this week’s episode, especially since it includes terminology you mi...
Ep 339 - Sociocide with Charles Derber
02 Aug 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Charles Derber, a sociology professor at Boston College, talks with Steve about his book, 'Bonfire: American Sociocide, Broken Relations and the Quest...
Ep 338 - Can Deliberation Cure the Ills of Democracy? with James Fishkin
26 Jul 2025
Contributed by Lukas
If we had the power to design our own political system, what would it look like? Stanford Professor James Fishkin talks with Steve about delibera...
Ep 337 - The Overdose Economy with Charles LeBaron
19 Jul 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Dr. Charles LeBaron is a retired CDC scientist and the author of Greed to Do Good: The Untold Story of CDC's Disastrous War on Opioids. He talks with ...
Ep 336 - MMT101 with Jim Byrne
12 Jul 2025
Contributed by Lukas
**You’re invited to join us Tuesday evening for Macro ‘n Chill, an online gathering where we can listen to and talk about this episode. Tuesd...
Ep 335 - Bonding Against Austerity: Can States Offset Federal Cuts? with Ben Wilson & Scott Ferguson
05 Jul 2025
Contributed by Lukas
**Tuesday evenings, we host an online listening party, Macro ‘n Chill, to discuss the current episode. It’s a great way to get to know other membe...
Ep 334 - MMT for the Proles
28 Jun 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Part of our mission is to introduce MMTers to socialism and socialists to MMT. We’ve had a few metaphorical doors slammed in our faces along th...
Ep 333 - DisElderly Conduct with Judy Karofsky
21 Jun 2025
Contributed by Lukas
If civilizations are judged by how they care for their elderly, our report card is already written. Should there be anyone left to judge us – should...
Ep 332 - The Red Thread: A History of Socialist Tradition with C. Derick Varn - Part 2
14 Jun 2025
Contributed by Lukas
**On Tuesday evening, C. Derick Varn will join us AGAIN for Macro ‘n Chill, our weekly community gathering. While listening to this episode, we will...
Ep 331 - The Red Thread: A History of Socialist Tradition with C. Derick Varn - Part 1
07 Jun 2025
Contributed by Lukas
**This Tuesday evening, C. Derick Varn will join us for Macro ‘n Chill, our weekly community gathering. While listening to this episode, folks ...
Ep 330 - Money, Power, and the People with Christopher Shaw
31 May 2025
Contributed by Lukas
There's an oft-repeated Chris Hedges quote that goes: “I do not fight fascists because I will win. I fight fascists because they are fascists.” We...
Ep 329 - Stage IV Terminal Capitalism with Hamza Hamouchene
24 May 2025
Contributed by Lukas
The podcast focuses on the critical need to address the root causes of health and environmental crises, emphasizing that many diseases, including canc...
Ep 328 - Trade Route China with Carl Zha
17 May 2025
Contributed by Lukas
This episode features sharp commentary on the current geopolitical landscape, exploring why China continues to thrive despite the chaotic shifting of ...
Ep 327 - Isolation with Bill Mitchell
10 May 2025
Contributed by Lukas
As difficult as it is to get a handle on the chaos and confusion of Trump’s shifting policies, we continue to ask wise friends for their perspective...
Ep 326 - AI in the Sky: Modern Warfare with Peter Byrne
03 May 2025
Contributed by Lukas
The past year has seen lots of discussion of the ‘human’ nature of AI. Programs like ChatGPT were writing poetry, engaging in debates, and roastin...
Ep 325 - Tariffs, Tooth Fairies & Trade with Fadhel Kaboub
26 Apr 2025
Contributed by Lukas
“When you are a dominant empire like the US, economically, militarily, geopolitically, and you make bets that are exclusively based on power rather ...
Ep 324 - Modern Money Awakenings with Tracy Carson
19 Apr 2025
Contributed by Lukas
This week’s episode comes from Steve’s recent appearance on The Tracy Show, where he was invited to talk about MMT with host Tracy Carso...
Ep 323 - The Physics of Capitalism with Erald Kolasi
12 Apr 2025
Contributed by Lukas
“Humanity... is at a critical moment in history where the decisions that we make could have massive, massive implications, for our future trajectory...
Ep 322 - Eggsploitation with Basel Musharbash
05 Apr 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Crazy things have been going on with the price of eggs, especially in the US. If you think this is happening because of the avian flu, you’ve been h...
Ep 321 - Modern Money with L. Randall Wray
29 Mar 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Steve’s guest is noted economist L. Randall Wray, one of the early developers of modern money theory. As many times as this podcast has talked about...
Ep 320 - Breaking Out The Master's Tools with Michael McCarthy
22 Mar 2025
Contributed by Lukas
**Every Tuesday night, we gather online to listen to the episode and discuss it among friends. Everyone is invited to this community building event. B...
Ep 319 - DOGE Ball: A True Oligarch Story with Yeva Nersisyan
15 Mar 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Near the start of this episode, Yeva Nersisyan talks with Steve about leftist economists who are still wedded to the belief that government spending r...
Ep 318 - The Death of the Left? with Simon Winlow & Steve Hall
08 Mar 2025
Contributed by Lukas
If you ever find yourself asking “What’s left?” you’re in good company. Today’s left is often indistinguishable from neoliber...
Ep 317 - Fatal Distraction with Shealeigh Voitl
01 Mar 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Control of information is a vital weapon of the ruling class in its war on the people. Critical media literacy is more important now than it has ever ...
Ep 316 - Lions & Lambs with Thomas Fazi
22 Feb 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Thomas Fazi joins Steve once again, this time to explore the current geopolitical landscape under Trump 2.0 and the absurdity of an American empire th...
Ep 315 - Confessions of an Economic Hitman: A Conversation with John Perkins
15 Feb 2025
Contributed by Lukas
John Perkins is a storyteller. His stories tell of his work as an economic hit man, creator of a death economy that is polluting and consumi...
Ep 314 - Chaos Fatigue with David and Dai from Call Me Limbo Podcast
08 Feb 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Depressed about the state of the world? Meet podcast hosts, Dai Poole and David Kugler, who are able to talk about the depressing stuff, yet mana...
Ep 313 - CHE with Clara Mattei
01 Feb 2025
Contributed by Lukas
“We need to understand the limits of capitalism. Capitalism has serious limits in the sense that it puts exchange value over use value. And this is ...
Ep 312 - Sumud: Echoes of Palestine with Malu Halasa & Jordan Elgrably
25 Jan 2025
Contributed by Lukas
“It's a wound. Palestine is a wound that doesn't go away because it's ignored.” Where there is oppression, there is resistance. Even when it ...
Ep 311 - The Electoral Delusion with Jen Perelman
18 Jan 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Running for office is a fool’s errand if you think you can win and radically change the system from within. But an election campaign&...
Ep 310 - The Inevitability of Luigi Mangione with Jordan Chariton
11 Jan 2025
Contributed by Lukas
When there’s an attack on a high profile (read: white) target in the US, media attention is aimed at the perpetrators. If the act was politically mo...
Ep 309 - Brick by BRICS with Yan Liang
04 Jan 2025
Contributed by Lukas
History doesn’t stand still, and every time we talk about BRICS on this podcast, there’s more to unpack. To understand the significance of BRICS, ...
Ep 308 - Working Class MMT with Bill Mitchell
21 Dec 2024
Contributed by Lukas
What’s the point of understanding money if we don’t look at the power relations controlling its distribution? Bill Mitchell, a key figure in ...
Ep 307 - Rights for Machines? AI's Ethical Future with James Boyle
14 Dec 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Can you imagine granting personhood to AI entities? Well, some of us couldn’t imagine granting personhood to corporations. And yet... look how ...
Ep 306 - China: Challenging Dollar Dominance with Paul Gambles
07 Dec 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Paul Gambles is back to help us unpack China's recent issuance of US dollar-denominated sovereign bonds in Saudi Arabia. Paul begins by sett...
Ep 305 - Trump, the Fed & the Crypto Insurgency with Rohan Grey
30 Nov 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Rohan Grey, who taught us to understand money as a creature of law, is back for his tenth appearance on Macro N Cheese. Steve and Rohan diss...
Ep 304 - Facing Uncomfortable Truths with Yeva Nersisyan
23 Nov 2024
Contributed by Lukas
In a stunning reversal, the Democrat Party has announced plans to reconnect with its New Deal roots in hopes of regaining the trust of the workin...
Ep 303 - Real Resources, Real Power with Fadhel Kaboub
16 Nov 2024
Contributed by Lukas
"Colonized people have the right to resist." Economist and friend of the podcast Fadhel Kaboub talks with Steve about the effects of global hegemony a...
Ep 302 - Gaza, Genocide & Empire with Jason Hickel
09 Nov 2024
Contributed by Lukas
“A capitalist economy requires constant imperialist wars because it has to constantly suppress prices and wages and reorganize production in the glo...
Ep 301 - Worker to Worker Unionism with Eric Blanc
02 Nov 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Author and labor studies professor Eric Blanc talks about worker-led union organizing and why it is superior to the dominant model of staff-intensive ...
Ep 300 - Algorithmic Warfare with Andy Lee Roth
26 Oct 2024
Contributed by Lukas
**Milestone 300! We dedicate this, the 300th weekly episode, to our loyal listeners, and we wish to recognize the valiant work of our underpaid podcas...
Ep 299 - Coup Save MMT with Sean St. Heart
19 Oct 2024
Contributed by Lukas
**Our Substack brings every new episode of this podcast as well timely alerts about our book clubs and webinars and reminders for Tuesday night’s ga...
Ep 298 - YIMBYism is Code for Gentrification with David Fields
12 Oct 2024
Contributed by Lukas
If NIMBY is the classist rejection of affordable housing ("Not in my back yard”), then YIMBY is sold as the progressive counter to it: “Yes, in my...
Ep 297 - Exposing the Titans of Capital with Peter Phillips
05 Oct 2024
Contributed by Lukas
The titans of capital aren’t just the obscenely wealthy. They are the directors of transnational finance companies; they manage the money of the obs...
Ep 296 - Caste, Class and the Capital Order with Charles Derber & Yale Magrass
28 Sep 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Steve’s guests are Charles Derber and Yale Magrass, authors of Who Owns Democracy: The Real Deep State and the Struggle Over Class and Caste in Amer...
Ep 295 - Degrowth Through Social Movements with Erin Remblance
21 Sep 2024
Contributed by Lukas
When people reject the concept of degrowth are they suggesting society continue to allow capital to ravage the earth? Are they saying the countries of...
Ep 294 - Euthanizing Rentier Capitalism with Daniel Conceição
14 Sep 2024
Contributed by Lukas
**Find a transcript of each week’s episode on our Substack, where we also offer links to resources discussed in the interview. Subscribe now at http...
Ep 293 - Big Brother Is Watching with Nolan Higdon
07 Sep 2024
Contributed by Lukas
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Ep 292 - The Conflict of Class, Democracy & Universal Basic Services with Tony from 1Dime
31 Aug 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Macro N Cheese brings you another twist. A couple of months ago, Steve appeared as a guest on 1Dime Radio in a two-part series that we’re now p...
Ep 291 - The Poisoning of America with Jordan Chariton
24 Aug 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Let us never become immune to shock and outrage over the US government’s failure to guarantee its citizens a safe clean water supply. We must be ou...
Ep 290 - After the Collapse with Brett Scott
17 Aug 2024
Contributed by Lukas
The 2024 fictional film “Civil War” shows an America that has been fractured into armed factions. It’s not the dystopian fantasy that interests ...
Ep 289 - Deprogramming Hasbara with Jonathan Kadmon
10 Aug 2024
Contributed by Lukas
“I was still a true believer, but doubts were starting to creep in at a certain point when you saw a large segment of our coalition cheering the bru...
Ep 288 - RP Live Presents: Fiat Socialism with Carlos Garciá Hernández
03 Aug 2024
Contributed by Lukas
In June, Real Progressives hosted a webinar with Carlos García Hernández on his book, Fiat Socialism: Achieving the Goals of Socialism Through Moder...
Ep 287 - Propaganda, Algorithms & Disinformation with Mischa Geracoulis
27 Jul 2024
Contributed by Lukas
According to Mischa Geracoulis, of Project Censored, media is a public good and journalism is a public service. “Being able to access information, b...
Ep 286 - Modern Monetary Theory and the European Project with Dirk Ehnts
20 Jul 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Steve’s guest this week is Dirk Ehnts, a lecturer and authorwho specializes in modern monetary theory (MMT). They discuss Dirk's new book,"A Simple ...
Ep 285 - We the Poisoned: No One Will Save Us with Jordan Chariton
13 Jul 2024
Contributed by Lukas
When corporations are guilty of poisoning the population, it is newsworthy. When state and local governments are complicit, it is newsworthy. Ye...
Ep 284 - How The West Was Lost with Thomas Fazi
06 Jul 2024
Contributed by Lukas
**On Tuesday evening we’re gathering for a listening party and discussion of this episode of the podcast. Get the Zoom link here https://realprogres...
Ep 283 - Can Unions Survive the Struggle Within? with Traven Leyshon
29 Jun 2024
Contributed by Lukas
** For a full transcript of this and every episode of the podcast, go to our website, where you will also find an “Extras” section with informatio...
Ep 282 - Argentina For Sale with Daniel Kostzer
22 Jun 2024
Contributed by Lukas
What happens to a nation when its leaders get in bed with the IMF? In this episode, Steve and his guest Daniel Kostzer look at the case of Argentina u...
Ep 281 - Gaza: Unmasking Empire with Dan Kovalik
15 Jun 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Dan Kovalik, author and human rights lawyer, joins Steve to talk about his new book, The Case for Palestine: Why it Matters and Why You Should Ca...
Ep 280 - MMT Gives Labor Its Wings with Tschaff Reisberg
08 Jun 2024
Contributed by Lukas
In this episode, Steve has a conversation with Tschäff (pronounced “Jeff”) Reisberg, the secretary of the Charlotte Metrolina Labor Council and a...
Ep 279 - Seeking Solidarity with Steve Hall
01 Jun 2024
Contributed by Lukas
**Each episode of Macro N Cheese has an “Extras” section filled with information and links to resources related to topics touched on in the interv...