Chapter 1: What prompted the apology to Eliot?
Hello and welcome back to the Maths Funny Podcast with me, Joshua Fox. You know like on the show how the contestants talk about going on like a real journey throughout the experiment within their relationships? Well, that's not too different from what I do here on this podcast. You know, I'm on my own journey with many of these cast members and one person I've gone full circle with now is Elliot.
And now he's off the show, I thought, you know what? Let's get him back in here. Let's get him in the studio and let's have a big chat and talk about...
our journey because as you know you know we didn't start off on a high I phoned him a week into this season to say hey are you a flop and then we've been very up and down since then but now I hate to say it but I think I'm an Elliot fan like that first phone call we had I even said in there like he kind of won me over slightly because I had a very different side to him and his personality came through which wasn't apparent on the show then he came back and then I was excited but then he was making those margarita comments and then I was like oh
But then, like, I slowly saw the different sides of him again. And then he got on socials. And I was like, this man is funny. So today, yeah, I'm bringing him in. He's coming on the pod. And I've also got him a gift to apologize on behalf of myself and Australia. Okay, welcome back to the Muffs Winnie podcast with me, Joshua Fox.
Chapter 2: How did Eliot's perception change throughout the season?
Today I'm joined by a man I used to hate. He's slowly grown on me.
Yeah, right. Now you can be nice to me now that everyone likes me.
Well, Elliot, I would first like to start this by giving you a gift.
Is this the apology letter? All right, all right. It's a really nice hallmark card. Congratulations to you for proving you're not a flop. Look at that. You know, I was expecting this. I was expecting some money to come out though. Yeah, we're in a budget over here. No 50s in there. Dear Elliot, on behalf of Australia, I'm sorry.
Chapter 3: What does Eliot think about the biggest flop of the season?
And I mean that. And I accept your apology.
You are forgiven. But I think you are the perfect example, right, of how we can be fed a certain narrative and certain personality of someone that isn't true. Because at the start, as I've told you, I thought you were a dickhead.
yeah and then we spoke on the phone that time and i thought oh he's actually okay then he came back and then he was like oh i'm staring towards again but then you made a tick tock showing your actual personality and then i was like he's actually funny
Okay, I would agree with some parts, disagree with some parts. I think when I came back, right, and I was kind of having a joke about the Margarita comment, right? Having a joke or shaming women? No, it's just a joke. Like, it's like, yeah, I don't think everything has to be about shaming somebody. You know, people said things about me. I'm not going to mention any names.
And it was deliberately to try to shame me.
Are you talking about me?
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Chapter 4: How does Eliot view his relationship with Veronica?
No, no, no.
Oh, the way you looked at it. Lauren and like the whole, oh, he smells and all this sort of stuff. It's like, I mean, that's shaming somebody. There's no shame in drinking five margaritas. Like I do that. Like that was never the thing. But then you took it as negative. But now it's like people come up to me at the PAV and they're like, five margaritas, yeah.
If everyone's buying you drinks now, great. They buy them for the table. They see me having dinner next door at Tropicana and we'll get like five margaritas brought to the table on a tray. Oh, there you go. I'm like, who bought this? And they're like, oh, it's a secret admirer.
Chapter 5: What are Eliot's thoughts on the Paul punch incident?
A margarita is not cheap. $20 minimum. I'm just saying, yeah, people don't mind the margarita comment now. But yeah, I definitely think that there's truth to that. I wouldn't say they can completely change who you are, but they can exaggerate certain parts of you. And that's really what happened in the start of my kind of journey.
I still think that I definitely approached the experiment with the wrong mindset. I treated it like a matchmaking service, which it's obviously not. Obviously not. Just look at their odds. That would be the worst matchmaker of all time. But that's the way I walked into it. And so my behavior kind of reflected that.
And yeah, they kind of exaggerated to the nth degree and said, right, let's take away any semblance of humor. I'm naturally pretty self-deprecating.
Chapter 6: How does social media influence reality TV personalities?
I love to take the piss out of myself. That's what I do on my TikTok all day long. And they took that away and then it just came across this arrogant guy like, oh my God, like he thinks he's better than everybody. And so that's the way I see that. When I came back, I wasn't a different person. I was just treating it like an experiment. Like, okay, let's engage with this.
Let's see where this takes me. Not just like, hang on a minute. I ordered this, not this.
It's the wrong color.
Because at the start you just shut it down instantly. But that was probably for the best given how we saw Lauren. That was part of it as well. Like people don't see what goes on behind the camera.
Chapter 7: What insights does Eliot share about being misunderstood on reality TV?
And so they make their assumptions based on what's shown. And they really didn't show the sides of Lauren that I saw that I was kind of like, I really feel uncomfortable being on camera with this person. Like, and, and so all these things kind of came together and that's how that whole journey happened. But I'm, I'm like grateful that it all happened. Like to me, I bet you are.
You're loved by the public. Well, yeah. Even Dave's fallen down. You've overtaken him.
Has he? Oh, really?
You tell me.
No, look, I think the way the whole story played out, I think it was an amazing experience to be part of it. And, you know, I had to go through those tough times and cop a little bit of heat.
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Chapter 8: What final thoughts does Eliot have on his experience?
To gain a TikTok following. Yeah. Yeah, maybe that's what I had to do. Be that guy for a bit. And yeah, that's where it led to. But I don't know. I don't know where it's going to lead. I think people will like- The TikTok Awards? They're already starting to forget who I am. And they're like, hang on, why am I following this guy again? Like, was he on some show?
Because I work in social media and I even texted you the other day saying, I was genuinely laughing out loud at your content. Because reality people often jump on socials and think, They can just go, hi, and the world's going to love them. No.
Well, no, but they will while they're on the show. And then the minute the show's over, that hi just means nothing. Like, it's like, that's just the person saying hi.
Well, you know the thing I notice every year? These people on maths afterwards, they've gained, what, maybe 150,000 followers? And they've gone from your everyday people who were on the show, and they suddenly think they're Kim Kardashian. And they go...
hey guys sorry i've not been on today i'm wearing this look at this and then instantly there's a disconnect because these fans have followed that regular person they enjoyed on the show and now you're presenting yourself as above them and that's why everyone loses followers over time but from the start you're just being funny you're not trying to be famous you're not trying to go look at me no no i don't think anyone wants that content from me like people are like oh you should do this you should do that i'm like
I think I'm just going to keep making a fool of myself and making these silly videos and giving people something to laugh at. And that's what people are coming here for. And that's what I like doing. I don't want to be... I've got Abby Chatsfield coming after me like, I need you to do this video denouncing this and this and this. It's like...
dude like that's not who i am i'm not this like advocate for people like i'm just a guy trying to make light of this situation and find the humor in it um and yeah like there's no hate or anything coming from from um you know what i'm doing it's more just like can we just kind of like laugh at the absurdity of these situations that we're in it's like you can do
i mean come on like it's pretty ridiculous the situations that we're in it's like let's you know find some humor in it and that'll help us deal with this more than anything do you reckon that you've gained such a big following on socials though that oh you jump on the only fans no because the money that like you know what is it at the expense of people seeing your dick
no i i don't have any plans to be on only fans i might make one like a funny one as like a do it like a tick tock on it and it'll be like yeah i don't know me in like a paper g string being like oh this is why me and lauren didn't work isn't that your old job what's that paper cheese stripper no no yeah yeah something like that yeah yeah i did it i did it for about five or six years yeah
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