Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
You're listening to a Mamma Mia podcast. Hello and welcome to another week and welcome to Mamma Mia Out Loud. It's what women are actually talking about on Monday the 9th of March. I'm Holly Wainwright. I'm Claire Stephens. And I'm Amelia Lester. And here are some things that have made our agenda for today.
Why Megan, the Duchess of Jam, might be standing next to you in a Sydney coffee queue next month. And what that has to do with the unfolding multi-million dollar drama of Kyle and Jackie O. plus the act of subtle rebellion that has everyone talking about the Iranian women's soccer team.
And look, my favourite show is Love Story, but Daryl Hannah says I have to stop watching it, so we're going to talk about why, and you know we just had to check in on the latest Brooklyn Beckham drama. I just had a little laugh at the beginning of that sentence out loud because off mic, we've just razzing Amelia about that show. We should get to that.
But first, before we get started, we know that there is one out loud host that you have all been dying to hear from. So welcome to our table, remotely, one Jessie Stephens. Hello, this is Jessie from the other side of pregnancy. Luca is also here. Hi, we are driving to the hospital. We've just dropped Luna at her little childcare. There is so much I want to debrief on with the Outlouders.
There is so much that has happened since early last Saturday morning. enormous shock. My waters broke and from there it was an absolute whirlwind and on early Monday morning we welcomed Harry and Margot into the world. They are tiny but they are healthy is the headline. They needed some snorkels to help them breathe to start with and they
They were in NICU for a good week and now they've been moved to special care as the latest update. We are in this bizarre period of limbo where I was saying to Holly, everyone tells you when you have twins or when you're expecting. your hands are going to be so full or you'll have your hands full. And our hands, when we're not at the hospital, are empty.
And it's really discombobulating and weird and heartbreaking. But there are moments of absolute beauty and joy in it. You know, I didn't get to hold Harry for hours and hours after he was born. But the second I got to see him and hold him was so special. So... Lots to tell you.
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Chapter 2: What challenges are faced by the Iranian women’s soccer team?
A big story coming. I would love to tell you the story this week. We're trying to get a little routine going with being in the hospital and balancing it all with Luna and everything. But I just want to thank everyone who has reached out and the people who have reached out with their own stories of NICU and special care. Really obvious thing to say, but you don't get it till you get it.
I had absolutely no idea what that would be like. Sending so much love to anyone who has ever gone through that or is currently going through it, it is a head fuck, a total head fuck. Anyway, we are in the hard bit and we are falling more and more in love with these babies every single day and we know just how lucky we are to have them cared for so well. Luca, did you want to say anything?
I have no idea what I just said and, like, my brain... I've been saying that even when I like write down the express milk date, I'm like, it's the 40th of November today. So I don't know anything that I just said. Any corrections? I wasn't listening. Okay, cool. All right. Love that. Talk to you soon, Outlouders. Bye.
Sorry, there's one extra thing that the Outlouders are going to really care about, and that is the snacks. I can't believe I didn't acknowledge that before Margot and Harry. As we all know, I no longer have diabetes. Now, unfortunately, my appetite is just not where I need it to be in order to fully enjoy work. All of the snacks I have been indulging in Cadbury Easter eggs.
I have had a smoothie last night. We went back to burgers and chips. What else have I been enjoying? You really, really did have a good crack at your burger and chips last night. Yeah, I did. I looked over and you arrived and I looked over four minutes later. It was just all gone. It was all gone. That's just been lovely. Yeah, I've been really enjoying that.
Thanks so much for your support, Outlouders. You've also enjoyed a cheeky champagne. Oh, I have, I have. That's been lovely. But I'm looking forward to continuing to eat too much sugar for the rest of my life. Oh, my gosh. If anyone's new here, that was, of course, Jessie Stephens, who is one of our beloved hosts here at Out Loud. Claire, she's also your sister. Yes.
What do you want to add to that amazing update from your twin? So it has been a bit of a rollercoaster week. Every now and then Jessie will say, I'm feeling very emotional. I think something's wrong. And I'm like, no, I think that is totally healthy and normal.
And so there have been a few times where I feel like things emotionally haven't hit her yet and they'll hit me, but I'm like, I just won't say anything until it hits her. But I did think it was funny that a lot of the Outlouders, when Jessie posted a photo of Harry and Margot and introduced them, a lot of Outlouders weren't wearing their glasses at all.
And so there was a lot of confusion, misinterpretation around what that post was. But my favourite was the Outlouders, who for sure thought that she had named her babies Harry and Meghan. Which was weird. She's really... Jessie Stephens, I love you, but you have missed a trick. Yeah, yeah. That would have been so fun. That would have been really fun. Have you been in there a lot?
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Chapter 3: How is the Kyle and Jackie O feud impacting their careers?
My favourite part of this whole thing was when Mia first entered the NICU, stood next to a baby, started crying and had to be told, that's not a baby that's related to you. You're not related to that baby. And she became really attached to that baby. And I was like, that is the most Mia Friedman thing that's ever happened. So if you're that baby's mother, I'm sorry. Mia imprinted on that child.
Okay, back to business. I need to talk to you both about my friend Timothy. Yes. One week today is the Oscars. Mr. Chalamet has made no secret of the fact he really, really wants that award for Marty Supreme. He's banged on about it a lot. Luckily for him, perhaps, Oscar voting closed on Thursday night last week. Oh. 5 p.m. Thursday, L.A. time, right? Yeah.
Because things were looking a bit shaky for him anyway on this front for a few reasons. But if Oscars voting had closed after he'd said this, which we're about to play you, I have a feeling his hopes would be even lower. So Timothy Chalamet was being interviewed for Variety magazine. Matthew McConaughey is sitting next to him. It's one of those round table-y things.
So in this interview, he was talking about whether people should be protecting cinemas. You know how there's this big debate going on about like, everybody should go to the movies to watch a movie. He weighs in on that and manages to put a great big dancing shoe in the center of that argument.
I admire people and I've done it myself to go on a talk show and go, hey, we got to keep movie theaters alive. You know, we got to keep this genre alive. And another part of me feels like, If people want to see it like Barbie, like Oppenheimer, they're going to go see it and go out of their way to be loud and proud about it.
And I don't want to be working in ballet or opera or, you know, things where it's like, hey, keep this thing alive, even though no one cares about this anymore. All respect to the ballet and opera people out there. I just lost 14 cents in viewership. Oh, if you, I have a feeling you can all imagine how that went down with the ballet and opera community.
What you can't see in that clip is Matthew McConaughey sitting next to him just thinking like you are digging yourself a hole, mate. When Matthew McConaughey knows that you. Yes.
done bad it's true he's famously the naked bongo playing man he's famously easygoing and even he looks nervous he does because what has happened since that little video went viral is ballet dancers all over the world have made timothy chalamet their number one enemy there have been operas that are offering discount code for tickets with the word timothy
There have been ballet dancers like performing these amazing stunts on their tiptoes and everything. You don't want to make them angry. Has anyone seen Black Swan? I know. I know. They're particularly mad about the no one cares comment. Claire, has he scuppered his chances? Yes. And, okay, really dumb question. Did he win at the other awards?
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Chapter 4: What updates are there on Meghan Markle's upcoming visit to Australia?
You've seen the price of popcorn. I know. But the funny thing is that once you say something like that, then you've got a target on your back and then everybody goes through your whole career and likes to pull things out.
So my favourite little tidbit that has come out in the last few days is the revelation that during filming for Wonka, Chalamet's private chef was required to prepare three different breakfasts of which Chalamet would only have one. Bless him. I love that so much. He hasn't addressed the breakfast rumours. Be real. We would do the same thing. I know, actually.
I'd be like, I don't know what I feel like. I never know if I want sweet or savoury until I get to it. Exactly. I also love that he was called to his high school principal's office. Did you see this? He went to this very prestigious school called LaGuardia High School of Music and Art in New York.
And Principal Marwa at that school wrote on Instagram over the weekend that he wasn't mad at Timmy, he was just disappointed. He said, LaGuardia, we do not rank art forms. You come from this world. We know your heart and we know you know better.
And I learned from this Instagram post that Timmy himself, his grandmother danced at the New York City Ballet, his mother danced at the New York City Ballet, and his sister danced at the New York City Ballet. So what is he doing? Oh, my God. I also think that we don't have the patience for long award campaigns anymore. We've all moved on to Harry Styles.
Like our favourite skinny white guy at the moment is Harry Styles and we're like, Timothy who? Can we give the Oscar to Harry Styles instead? And he was wearing his darn orange in that interview too. I think he may have revealed himself as Kylie Jenner's boyfriend. That's rude of me but I'm going.
Last Monday, in the wake of increasing conflict in the Middle East, the Iranian women's soccer team took the field for their Asian Cup match against South Korea on the Gold Coast. What happened next went viral. The team stayed silent during their country's national anthem, staring ahead, some of them with subtle smiles on their faces.
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Chapter 5: What criticisms are being made about the portrayal of Daryl Hannah in 'Love Story'?
And it was widely interpreted as a subtle act of resistance against the Islamic Republic. In the days afterwards, they were labelled as wartime traitors by Iranian state television. Radical conservative presenter Mohammad Reza Shabazi called for the squad and the coach to be dealt with more severely.
Under what's believed to be suspected instruction from their security, the team then did sing their national anthem before their match against Australia on Friday and their match against the Philippines on Sunday. What is terrifying is that there are now grave concerns for the team as they prepare to head home. And we're really seeing how this conflict is
is reaching Iranian people all over the world. We had an outlouder called Motti reach out and chat about this particular story and how much it was meaning to her. Holly, what do we know about the current situation with this football team? So the thing is, is the Iranian team are now out of the tournament. So they've lost their three games. And so they should be going home.
They should be going back to Tehran. It hasn't been confirmed whether or not they have or are. But last night when they lost their last match and they got on the bus to leave the stadium where they were playing, a lot of protest had gathered around them.
waving flags from pre-Islamic regime revolution in Iran, expressing grave fears for these women's safety, pressuring the Australian government to offer them asylum. The thing that's complicated here is that they are, as you've said, Claire, they're travelling with women. government officials.
So they are under surveillance and nobody wants to add any danger to what these women are doing and going through. It's a very quickly evolving situation because people, spokesperson for Amnesty International, for example, says that at this point, this team is kind of Damned if they do and damned if they don't when it comes to returning to Iran.
Because if they're seen as being traitors and they go back, they could be punished as per what the report on the state television said, who explicitly called for an example to be set by these women. But then if they don't, their families could be targets back at home. So it's incredibly difficult.
It's just worth noting, I think watching this, you know, I was watching the Matildas play them on the weekend. I think... The women's bravery is outstanding because Iran doesn't field a woman's team in this way necessarily because the regime wants to, more because FIFA insists that a woman's team must be fielded if a man's team is being fielded, right?
In many areas of the Middle East, just like in many places all around the world, soccer, football is a huge, huge sport. And women playing it has been really controversial at different times in Iran, as it has in other parts of the world. There have been times when women have been banned from entering stadiums. There have been times when they've been banned from playing it publicly.
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Chapter 6: How are the Beckhams navigating Brooklyn's legal threats?
So I found that really fascinating that there's an obligation to protect them if they are at risk upon returning home. The other thing I was just thinking about was there was a really horrible news story over the weekend about basically a hot mic moment where a women's sport team, a women's AFL team was practicing in Victoria.
And some men who were watching the game, who I believe were involved in a coaching capacity, made some really appalling comments about the event. physical shape of the women playing AFL. And I guess that just made me reflect these two events in contrast to each other. It made me think about how what you said, Holly, is so true that sport can be more than sport.
And the possibility of women competing on the world stage in sport and using their bodies to compete in that way can be such a powerful political statement in itself. And we shouldn't be patting ourselves on the back in Australia and pretending that we don't have issues with treating women athletes differently from male athletes because we still do. A hundred percent, Amelia.
And when I read those comments, I mean, they were so disgusting and out loud as would know, my daughter plays AFL and it's so upsetting to understand that those attitudes exist, but also that women just playing sport, it can be a powerful political statement, but also why should it have to be?
You know, when women and girls just want to play the game and get an enormous amount of satisfaction and empowerment from doing it. And yet somehow, even here, when I read that news story, it's like sort of dragged back down to some kind of
political statement you're so right it came also on the heels of last week my daughter got the opportunity to go on the field at the sydney cricket ground for the swans opening match at halftime and kick the ball around a little bit with her very cute team mixed team of boys and girls playing afl for the first or second time in their lives it made me tear up a little bit because you're so right it shouldn't have to be a political statement for girls to play sport to play
Up next, what does Kyle and Jackie O's feud have to do with Harry and Meghan coming to Australia? How loud is it has been? a week. It's been a time. I've got news. And so I've decided, it's not really my news, but it affects me. I've decided to do a different kind of subs episode this week. And it is a diary entry. It's just me with a mic. It's a bit insta babble, but it's pod babble.
It's subs pod babble. That rolls off the tongue. I'm going to talk about my new grandbabies, among other things. Have a listen. It's coming out tomorrow. I do subscriber episodes twice a week on Tuesdays and Thursdays. So if you're not already a subscriber and you want to hear my diary note, follow the link in the show notes to listen to Out Loud five days a week.
There's a few curious updates to the very juicy story we can't look away from, the falling out between Kyle and Jackie O. So last Wednesday we discussed in detail the segment that appears to have imploded the relationship between two of Australia's most longstanding and lucrative media personalities. But on Friday, Jackie O came out with a statement clarifying one particular detail.
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