Consumers might see some tariff refunds — in 2036

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Kyle Risdall 0:00
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Kyle Risdall 0:45
In Los Angeles, I'm Kyle Rizdal. It is Monday today, the fourth day of May. Good as always to have you along, everybody. I will tell you what, whatever this week brings by way of news out of the Middle East and the global economy, of which we have already had quite a bit, thank you very much, and it is only Monday. One thing the next five days are not going to lack for is economic data. The Labor Department's April jobs report upon us Friday morning is the biggie. There will be productivity numbers, also important. Never sleep on productivity. Data on new home sales as well. This morning, we were delivered by the Census Bureau some insights into the state of American manufacturing. To wit, new orders for manufactured goods were up 1.5% last month from a month earlier.
Kyle Risdall 1:30
And the thing is about that data? It is no outlier. We've had some other news of late showing orders rose in April as well. And remember, that's despite all the uncertainty surrounding the war and energy costs and tariffs, which are still very much a thing. So while you ponder why the manufacturing sector has been so upbeat lately, Marketplace's Justin Ho is on it. One category where orders have been especially strong is electronics.
Kristen Schwab 1:57
That category includes computers, computer storage devices, peripheral equipment.
Justin Ho 2:02
That's Tim Quinlan, senior economist at Wells Fargo.
Abhi Rajendran 2:05
He says orders of those kinds of goods are typical of business spending in general right now.
Kristen Schwab 2:09
Where everything that's kind of even tangentially related to this AI build-out is seeing a bid in activity.
Justin Ho 2:18
Quinlan says electronics isn't the only source of strength in manufacturing. There were a number of other categories from machinery to fabricated metals and wood products that all saw modest increases in this morning's report. That could be because manufacturers are catching up after the president's tariffs unleashed all of that uncertainty last year, says Scott Paul, president of the Alliance for American Manufacturing.
Abhi Rajendran 2:43
I do think that some of this is delayed demand that might have been sitting on the table for a while. And I do think that there is a bit more certainty now.
Justin Ho 2:56
Paul says after the Supreme Court struck down some of the president's tariffs, businesses have at least a slightly clearer picture of where tariff policy is headed.
Abhi Rajendran 3:04
And otherwise, the fundamentals of the U.S. economy are Setting aside, of course, energy prices and the situation with Iran look pretty good. It's also possible that the situation in Iran caused new orders to pick up, says Kathy Bosjanczyk, chief economist at Nationwide.
Kathy Bosjanczyk 3:21
I think some companies tried to get ahead of potential price increases and disruptions to supply chains. and try to pull in as many goods as they can.
Abhi Rajendran 3:31
On the other hand, Bosjansic says high energy prices, thanks to the war, could also be holding back demand.
Kathy Bosjanczyk 3:37
Because that means higher input costs. That is a headwind.
Justin Ho 3:40
Which means if the war were to end, demand for manufactured goods would rise even faster. I'm Justin Ho for Marketplace.
Kyle Risdall 3:48
Wall Street today, I mean, given the aforementioned news out of the Middle East the past 18 or so hours, what do you think? Stocks down, oil up, bond traders none too pleased with any of it. We will have the details when we do the numbers.
Kyle Risdall 4:17
The refund process for President Trump's illegal tariffs started a couple of weeks ago, as you have probably heard. Emphasis there on the word process, because as Marketplace's Kristen Schwab reports, oh, it is complicated.
Justin Ho 4:41
Ann Robinson hasn't gotten any tariff money back since applying two weeks ago.

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