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Matt and Shane's Secret Podcast

Ep 603 - GEY DOT COM (feat. Tim Butterly & Mike Rainey)

12 Mar 2026

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Chapter 1: What humorous anecdotes do the hosts share about their experiences?

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Wow, wow, Wes. Welcome to the motherfucking podcast. Yeah, thank you. Sean, did you get that? I had a nice moment. I had old Nate with me this weekend and we were in, it was either Pittsburgh or Cleveland, but like when you come out at the little theater, You can see the people on the sides are already seated. So I always scope the stage and people will see you.

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And this one guy from the balcony went... From backstage, which I was like, that's nice. Nice moment of connection. Pretty much ended the male loneliness epidemic. Two guys going... Two 40-year-old men... Yeah, you never see Chalamet doing that to anybody. Chalamet could probably toss one of these.

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I mean, it's such, it might be, if I have to go through every hand gesture you can possibly do to somebody, this might reign supreme. Going... You think that's a threat or just like an acknowledgement? It's just like one party, bro, to another. It's a nod. I mean, it could be a threat. If you see a guy with his girlfriend, you go, then it'd be like, bro, I'm on a date. What the fuck, man?

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I don't know what the guy was doing. He's out of hand. As soon as your girlfriend or wife turns around, you go back and go... Well, God damn it, dude. Mike Rainey, Tim Butterly. Thank you guys for coming. Good to be back, man. I love talking pussy gestures with you guys. Pussy gestures is amazing.

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I called Rainey recently just to talk shop because I'm going to come to your dad meet in, I think, two weeks when I get back from spring break. Spring break forever. I'm going to go visit family. And now I'm talking to Rainey. And I was telling Rainey, I was telling him, oh, nicotine tablets, that's not bad. That's too much. They flip you, yeah, it takes a while.

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Whatever, like, sensitive stuff you need. No, no, I'm telling you. I tried. Those, like, little villi or whatever in your esophagus all have to die so you can do nicotine tablets. I can't hang, man. They're rough. You might get kind of horny, too. My heart is pounding right now. Dude, I gave one to my brother at a wedding. He goes, dude, I got, like, bricked up. Okay.

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I don't feel like anything like that. And I'm watching cunnilingus. So I'm good. True. This is a true test. So we, uh, I was talking to rainy. I don't even know how we got on the subject. I probably brought it up honestly, but I was talking about Tim about, um, just like going to Vegas. We're talking, how do we, how do we get on this subject about, uh, jacking in hotel rooms?

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probably was jacking in hotel rooms that's probably how we got onto this but i was i was telling him like dude like every last time i was in vegas it happens to me every time in vegas i don't like vegas i don't want to be there you know i just i don't like it i'm sorry i don't like the city but there is also a part of me and this is probably why i don't want to be there is like whenever i'm going to the airport i'll pass those like real seedy like shitty motels next to like a fucking porn shop in a strip club and i'm like just let me fucking beast down let

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give me three months, dude. I'm just like cargo shorts, white feeder, flip-flops to just live in like a shitty motel in Vegas and grow tusks. Come back. Yeah. Every guy should have the leave in a Las Vegas treatment, at least for like a, like a summer camp. Yeah. I don't know. I passed him and I got to be honest. There's a part of me. I would never do it.

Chapter 2: What are the thoughts on nicotine use and its effects?

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I'm like, that wouldn't actually sound real. It sounded good. I was going to shorten nicotine and call it the shortened nicotine D. I was like, that might come off wrong on the podcast. Yeah. It'd be nice waking up every day in the shitty motel. Shitty motel. Horn shop.

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But that's what's so rainy because I think where our philosophy is diverged and being a total pig in a shitty motel in Las Vegas. He was like, yeah, just like completely pig out. I was like, no, I would get in the best shape of my life in there. Like prison.

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i'll get these are two different prison philosophies exactly exactly you might go the way of indulgence in terms of comfort yeah i would train harder than ever and be like a jacked sicko pervert bringing lunch to strippers at like 11 30 i'd bring them healthy stuff i'd bring the strippers like healthy bowl yeah like that's every time i'm in vegas i order healthy meals i'm like this is just me and prostitutes and strippers eating this food

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We're the only people getting an acai bowl in Las Vegas. Just me and Dominican prostitutes. Yeah, acai is like hooker pho. Yeah, this is a fun exercise to do in Vegas. Just stop randomly in your travels in the street and then see how quickly you can get to a vegetable. And it's like performer vegetable, like no arms and legs. Yeah. Yeah.

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See how long it takes for you to find a guy with a wheelchair that you steer with a straw. No. How soon can you eat a vegetable? And it's taken me a very long time to find. I should provide context. Tim, you gave up the vape. You gave up the fucking V. Which isn't fair. You don't think it's fair. I think it's totally fair. Why? You can't vape and be a daddy. I think you can't do anything.

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Daddies can't vape. Become a cigar guy. Well, full-time daddy. Ew, no. Why? Daddy's sucking a fake hog again. There goes daddy and his friends. Look at them out there. That's just like the bath fog. It keeps the real ones out. That's the passie, bro. That's so you don't suck your thumb. I want a synthetic cigar. It's fine. I don't need the plants. No, the cigar. You need a cigar.

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You need your paws to be sitting there. Yeah, you don't go on Instagram and post La Familia. I'm not going to post like, you know how they wear suits to a funeral and they go, I clean up nice. You need to see your kids, dude. Yeah, you just described my wicker brothers. Come on, man. That picture too is always like, you couldn't even recognize the person. They somehow get such a farsuit.

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See the haircut? I think that is.

Chapter 3: How do the hosts discuss their views on Las Vegas and hotel experiences?

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I think that is that guy, I know. Yeah, the chin strap gets shaved down to almost like pencil thin. Like it's just an outline of their face. Is your Wigger brother still alive? I think so. I'd have to check, but probably, yeah. They never die. They never die when you want them to. They are living longer. Like they are, I think it's like global warming that's doing it to them.

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Yeah, life expectancy on them is like maybe, how old's Everlast? I would say 55 years old. 55 seems kind of aged for them. Oh, he's 55. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Which in, in wigger years, that's, I mean, that's geriatric. That's like Moses. That's when they said like Moses was 900 years old. Yeah. You're like the Indian guy with like the curled fingernails. Yeah.

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I feel like once you go, I mean, Everlast gets longer and longer until it curls in on itself. Everlast paved the way with the gray hair though. He might have been the first to see Grey. Day one. And it helps too, he named himself Everlast. He walked so my brothers could limp. What'd you say? I said, oh, I'm not going to repeat it, but I said Everlast walked so my brothers could limp.

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They're both faking disability for work right now. It's kind of an inside thing. I mean, that's also, you gotta. Do you think he intentionally left the House of Pain guys behind or... Whoever was? Wasn't he in House of Pain? Yeah, he was in House of Pain. How many guys are in House of Pain? I think three. What happened to those guys? I don't know. I think maybe the DJ is the Limp Bizkit guy.

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I might have my wiggers mixed up. Hold up. What? You're telling me the DJ from House of Pain joined Limp Bizkit? Is that DJ Lethal? Can I just... Can I 50-50 grind a rail real quick? I can't. I got to process this information. Can I grind a curb with my rollerblades real quick so I can just process this? I didn't know that. Yeah. What? Yeah, man.

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And there was... I think there was one other guy... Who did Pack It Up, Pack It In? Was that Everlast Classic? Yes. Okay. That part was sick. That was House of Pain. Yeah. Danny Boy. Danny Boy. Where the hell is he at? Dead, probably. Yeah, he sounds like he got killed in a motorcycle. Is he alive?

Chapter 4: What is the significance of the discussion around masculinity and vulnerability?

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Where is Danny Boy? Probably the Boston streets. Or maybe L.A. Either way, we don't have to research this. Put it either way. Whatever. That blew my mind. I had no idea. Damn, so that was a huge snag for LB. Like, how did that even come about? I don't know, man. I gave up trying to figure out wiggers because it's... everything about them makes less and less sense.

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Like you think you have them figured out as a kid. You're like, okay, he's going to die at 19 in a, in a dirt bike accident. He's going to die of a pullover dose at 26. But now you see them like old enough as to where it's hard for them to get out of a couch. And you're just like, I give up trying to figure this out. Yeah. That is prime time. Their legs get really skinny.

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Their legs almost atrophy. And they're wearing the ball shorts. So it's just like these little skinny little. You never catch them lifting legs. Purple sausages. If they drop the perc habit, they'll lift legs because they're sponsored. It's crazy. And then they get like the big belly. And then, oh, their glasses prescription ends up like mine.

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Old wiggers get really, like, they get Buzz Lightyear eye prescriptions and they, so now they just got these googly eyes and, like, uh... It's funny, their eyes are magnified, but their pupils are so constricted from perks, they probably look like the exact same size. Yeah, any chance you can give me a ride to infinity or... You don't see them anymore, man.

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I don't, I don't like, um, or have they gone just mainstream? I'm thinking like Jay stay inside. They don't, they don't get out as much after they stop like going out, you know, searching for honey dips, obviously they're both side trees. You might, we might have a starter outreach program called appeals on wheels, appeals on wheels. He's dropped the perks, appeals on wheels.

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They get really into like complicated, like, uh, like hacked fire stick setups too. They had the nastiest fire stick setups when you go over to their, uh, duplex apartment. Dude, a hack fire stick is like a fucking wicker Rubik's cube. Is it true that there's a signal for the fire stick that gets like sent out and like erases a fire?

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Like if you buy one today and like a month from now, something like gets sent through the network that scrambles your fire. The signal is a wigger screaming to his girlfriend. You know, I got demons crystal. I've heard that before that the fire sticks, like they only last, they only last so long. I've never dabbled, dude. I've been gainfully employed most of my life. Damn, they get doused.

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They get doused. I think they get extinguished. I came to get doused. I had an FS in my house in Philly for a little bit. Yeah. Dude, another thing, too, is like. Hacked or straight? It was apparently like anything on it. So it was like it was a hacked stick. And it was just a pain in the ass to navigate. Oh, they love doing it. They love going through 14 menus to get to like a bad UFC stream.

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Like we would go to watch a movie. We'd be like, fuck yeah, we got this movie. And it would just be in French. And we'd be like, fuck. And you go back and the next one is like. It's a fucking cam.

Chapter 5: How do the hosts address the topic of 'gay.com' and its cultural implications?

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What do you got? Let me turn the question to you guys. Nate, are you watching college basketball? Let me see. Just... Name a team. How's Duke looking? I would definitely. Duke's always a safe pick. Yeah. Duke. Well, hold on. We're talking about picks. Picks. Picks. Talking about action. What are you talking about? Duke. Let's say Duke and I don't know, maybe Michigan. Oh, there we go.

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We were talking on the way up about like, I don't know how we got on the subject of just old, old like network TV and how they're still just like pumping millions of dollars when it's like, bros, it's over, man. Like. Nobody's tuning in to fucking, like, Fox. When's the last Fox series you watched and, like, finished it all the way through? Grounded for Life. How long ago was that?

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Probably 30 years ago. Yeah, it's insane. They still just, like, fucking put the bread out. I think it's money laundering at this point. You think so? Yeah, I think they generate ad revenue because all of the channels are being played in, like, every waiting room everywhere has like five TVs now. And that's where all of your ratings are getting. I mean, I can't imagine that. No, that makes sense.

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Cause that's my, my theory is that the execs are also just aged boomers. Cause it's aged boomers have the Comcast still. Although I think my parents have finally taken off the Comcast cord finally. And I could be wrong. They still might have like, dude, their bill was like $470 a month for cable and internet. And I was like, what the fuck are you guys doing? Yeah.

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But I think the execs have the same brain where they're just like, we got it. This time we double down. They're probably just paying like Jake Gyllenhaal $900 million to do another cowboy. It's just cowboy shows. It's modern cowboy shows. Every network has to have a modern cowboy show. Do you watch Landman? Are you a Landman guy? I haven't seen it, dude. I saw a little bit of Yellowstone.

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Is it good? No. Billy Bob Thornton being kind of pissed off. Taylor Sheridan rules, though. Is that a guy or a lady? He's the guy who created it. Oh, okay. Yeah, he created Mystic River, I think. No, not Mystic River. White something. Dude, I was talking to someone recently who was trying to tell me Westerns are dead. I'm like, no, they're not. They're the biggest genre. It's the modern Western.

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It's Yellowstone, King of Tulsa, and Landman now.

Chapter 6: What are the hosts' perspectives on modern media and its evolution?

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They're all going for the... It's either gay hockey or now modern Western. That's where we're at right now. You're either a fan of one or the other. Dude, gay hockey is like ruining my sheets. Like my wife is heavy into fucking gay hockey right now. Gay hockey. Yeah. Have you seen the show? No, I just know it's books. He goes, what show?

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there's a show called heated rivalry oh yeah that that is that a netflix thing yeah i think so dude the books are fucked they've been heavy for a while and like i remember going to the bookstore and just seeing like dude what the fuck is two guys kissing in the penalty box for

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And then it was just like, oh, you find out, like, there's this whole subgenre of gay hockey guys that chicks are getting squishy for. Here's my question. And again, I feel like girls are significantly lagging guys in this regard, where they're just getting into, like, dirty books. Like, I feel like if you went to a porn shop. That was the first thing we did with movable type.

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And they got into it after Kindles. 2026. You think there's old sluts leaving, like, bags full of gay hockey erotica in the woods now? There could be. Well, it's also like if you went to a porn shop back in the 90s and you were trying to buy porn, there'd be like guys in the aisles trying to blow you. Yeah.

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So I wonder if you can catch chicks in the Barnes and Nobles fucking like you pop out a book and there's a lady on the other aisle. Stick your finger through like... Hit the Starbucks cafe. Yeah, because I don't think girls are like hanging around seedy bookstores. You'd have to redesign the glory hole, by the way, for women. Yeah. What would you, I mean, you would need some sort of vacuum pump.

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What would you do? It was a seat. It would have to be like a seat. Oh, what if the perfect times weren't cut away right now? What would that look like? Yeah, I think you're right. It would just be a toilet, but there's just a face under the toilet. And the lady would sit down. Like she's kissing, like, the Blarney Stone. Yeah.

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You'd have to have, like, a mummy tomb that you laid in, and then the lady would drop. Nah, we'll figure it out for them. Let them figure it out for themselves. Queen slut in common. But yeah, the... Erotic lit is fucking, it's crazy. Although me. Can you get hard to that? What? Erotic lit? Yeah, I could easily. Me too.

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It's tough when you can tell... I'll go on Literatica sometimes and I'll pick out a highly rated story and just think to myself, dude, who's giving these fucking ratings? Wait, what's Literatica? A website or a place? It's a website. Where you can pick all these different sub-genres and they're all regular people submitted. And it's like you could pick it by author or by sub-genre.

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Some have audio, I've heard. So that's pretty cool. laughter laughter Wait, you're listening to user-made audio erotica eBooks? I have. Sure. Or some of them are just audio. It's not even a story. It's a podcast. It's pretty much a podcast. I'm just a lady going, oh. She's taking a shit. It is the podcast. Yeah, erotic lit. I talked about this for a while. I don't mind a racy story myself.

Chapter 7: How do the hosts compare different lifestyles and choices?

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You get charged up. And there's ones where you could, like, it's like a Mad Libs booklet for sluts. What? Like, you can create your own story. No. Did they ever choose your own adventure? Yeah. It's not on Literatica, but it's a Patreon. I was about to say, how the fuck did I miss this? Yeah, five bucks a month will get you anything you want, man. Hold up, so they have choose your own adventures?

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Oh, dude, I'm putting all my... Wait, are you just clicking that ad on porn that's like, make your own lady? Stop jacking off alone. I'm not. Who says I am? There's horny sluts in... Wait, that's my town. Well... That is funny. Imagine if that's like a legit thing and there's a door-to-door guy be like, excuse me, ma'am, are you a horny slut? Slut census.

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Dude, I watched, you guys watch Soft Fight Underbelly? Yeah. I love that channel. They just put up one recently about a younger guy who, the title's just like, it's something like I had the internet at a young age. Like I had too much internet at a young age and I was listening to it earlier today and He's like, my dad was gone, and he was working all the time.

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And one of my friends, I guess it started, he went on to gay.com. And I was like, he got turned out on gay.com. And he just never recovered. Dude, gay.com. I didn't even know. I'll be honest. I'm not trying to flex like I'm the straightest guy in the world. Gay.com, never even thought. Never even thought. What's up with gay.com? It's like a Ghostbuster trap. They'll fucking suck you right in.

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Gay.com was killing me. And he's just like, yeah. I think he brought it up almost as like a lemon party type joke. And the kid was like, yo, what the fuck is up with this? He was young. And then he started doing this shit. Oh. Ah, like early teens. Probably like 14. That's not that young. That's like 30 gay years. True. You're right. Again, I don't want to... I'm mixing up the ages.

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Maybe he was 12 or 11 during gay.com. Yeah. Because he does jump around a lot. You know, it's hard to put a real... Trying to put a finger on that. It sounds like he probably had a more serious problem that he's trying to pin it on gay.com when he was 13 years old. Yeah, I mean, again, we've all seen Lemon Party, but I think he was just like, well, you know what fucked him up?

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Gay.com led him to MenChat. MenChat is where guys get together to chat, mostly gay guys asking young boys for videos of them jerking off. So he started supplying the bros with the goods, or I should say the bads. He started supplying the bros with the very bad. He became a creator at a young age. He became a creator. He took control of his own content.

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But then the guy was like, oh, so he did this for money. He was like, yeah, well, I didn't really have a bank account, so I just did it. He was just love of the game at first. Just kind of like, I guess, thriving off the buzz. And yeah, I didn't watch the whole thing, but I was like, dude, getting sucked into gay.com. I mean, the gay.com men chat pipeline. But the thing is, he lived in this.

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All right, I will go back and watch this entire thing. I highly doubt the headline should be, I got the internet at a young age. There's no way that's what went wrong. I don't know, because everything else was pretty cut and dry. Let's go back to a younger age, and maybe there was something there, you know? Maybe.

Chapter 8: What closing thoughts do the hosts leave the audience with?

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Sounds like a fucking... I mean, pick your boys. Yeah. That's how the N1 mixtape tour ended. Anyway, I feel bad making fun of... Well, I'm not making fun of the kid, but... It's just funny. It's undeniably funny to get sucked into gay.com. Dude, it's so easy to get sucked at that age. You have no idea. Dude, it's insane. It must be, you could, I mean, the world's your oyster.

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Tapes hit me hard at that time, VHS. Yeah. Tapes were hitting me hard. I didn't have internet yet. So I had an aunt who bought me a softcore porn from the Playboy catalog. She bought me a movie called Chameleon. Another satisfied customer of gay.com. Yeah, she let me pick one movie from the Playboy catalog, and I picked Chameleon with Tori Wells. And how old were you? Twelve.

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What was... Have you, like... I mean, how good of a boy are we talking? How good have you been? Dude, I was... Straight A, man. Your listening chart must have been off the fucking... Dude, no trouble. A little chubby. Never said a peep. I really kept to myself, and my aunt was just like, one day, she's like, pick something out of this catalog. I look, okay.

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How do you, what is your thoughts on that? She's a criminal. Okay. But she also left me 5Gs when she died. So, and Patsy, if you're listening, thank you for the movie and thank you for the 5Gs. She's a criminal. Yeah, she's a criminal with a heart of gold. Yeah, because I have thoughts on being like, you know, again, you're talking old school. I'm an old school guy.

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Is that like the subtle hookup to be like, I'm going to get this kid a soft core? But then again, it's like, oh, man, when you say it like that, you go...

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why dude it's tough because like that's that summer that i got it like i was being occupied like i had sega genesis and i was playing pga tour three so you had shit to do i yeah my summer was locked down already but then she's like pick something out of this catalog and chameleon looked enticing because tori wells was beautiful and i was like all right i'll take this and then like midway through the summer the tape came and the door had a lock on it and it was one of those tv vcr combos and i slid it in and it was just like pfft

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Yeah. It was like one X, so there was no penetration, but I knew what was happening. Can I get that? Yo, bro. I mean, I got to give it to you. Fantastic pick. Yeah. What year is this? Probably 1993-ish. Yeah. That's wild. Did it come in the mail? It did. A giant box came in the mail. Knew exactly what it was when it arrived at Aunt Patsy's. Jeez. Okay. And you didn't have to watch it alone.

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You didn't have to watch it with her or anything? No. No, I didn't have to watch it with her. Although a couple of times my cousin and I, my cousin Chris and I watched porn together. That's you sharing the wealth. I think so too. Yeah. Cool guy. Watching porn together. That was, I saw a lot of people, a lot of folks doing that. He would just make a joke every now and again.

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He would, we would just kind of lighten the mood. Now that was, that was a big thing. I met a lot of young bros were watching porns. Like we would get, we had Spanish fly 14 through our neighborhood. And we just like, it was just, everyone had that. Is there a system for it? Like who got, who got it? When older brothers dominated the goods. Yeah. And you know, I was, I was like scraps.

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