Matt Beall Podcast
Bob Greenyer | Is Carbon-14 Dating WRONG? Are Ancient sites OLDER than previously thought?
19 Mar 2026
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Chapter 1: What are the limitations of Carbon-14 dating?
Carbon dating is now not able to be used. It's not reliable. Only where you've got something like Gobekli Tepe can you trust the date. Everything else should be older. And this is transformational. It basically means we are living where there has clearly been cultures that are much older than we think they are.
The Great Flood could have made younger everything that wasn't highly protected on the surface of the Earth. And this has profound implications for dating ancient structures. And because it only ran for two minutes, I accelerated that decay rate by 348 million times. I expect lightning to produce iron-rich, granulated spheres. And here we have the proof. So this changes the cosmic impact theory.
The elements on Earth almost certainly were not coming from supernova. They are synthesized mostly in the violence of the early years of this Earth. The brain, when it's doing consciousness tasks, is producing toroidal moments. I don't want to say this really because we only saw a sign of it, but we saw uranium in there. This means we can make any element we want.
We literally have the power, what I call gods with a little g, toolbox.
Chapter 2: How do ancient structures relate to modern scientific theories?
So what I'm focusing on is a technology that will fix that waste, potentially in situ for a thorium reactor. So this radiation that Ivan Filomenenko, and actually Ivan Filomenenko spent time in a gulag because he railed against the Russian, the Soviet Union, because he said this krypton-85 that's going in the atmosphere will increase cancer rates.
And they actually locked him up for being vocal about it. No, we need to make our bombs and we don't want the population to think we're not doing the right thing for our population, if you know what I mean. So he actually suffered for being open and honest about this contamination in the environment that people were able to breathe in because Krypton is very heavy.
It would lie down low as well as ionize the atmosphere. So if we have a technology that is able to clean up a normal fission reactor's failure, A molten salt reactor, a thorium reactor, fails safe. What happens is if it gets too much reaction, it stops. And if the containment breaks, the molten salt cools and it stops and it's stuck where it is.
So it doesn't fail in the same way that we saw in Fukushima and Chernobyl. But when those kind of reactors fail or you have the product at the end, the waste product, it still has this radioactive material in it that has these long half-lives and salt does dissolve in water and could leach into the ground and stuff. If we can fix that whilst the reactor is running,
then we enable an incredibly bright future for humanity. I'm talking 1,000 years of the whole world having basically unlimited energy just from technology that already exists. But you remove the thing that stops humans generally and politicians from wanting it to be installed. Because what are we going to do with the waste?
If you solve that problem, we have unlimited energy from all perspectives. I mean, what do we do with the waste today that we have from energy?
pile it up yeah yeah that's what happens so they find ways of like fusing it into glass or they put it in concrete vessels and they bury it in like granite caves and stuff and you know when you look at something like plutonium if you're not putting it into a bomb and it'll still have the same half-life in there but it let's say you put it into the ground it has a half-life of something like 273 000 years are you going to be able to guarantee
You know, when you have a political cycle that seems to run at a two to four year cadence, are you going to be able to guarantee that in 100,000 years time, someone's not going to know where that is, dig it up and make a bomb from it? Or maybe make a dirty bomb, which will pollute a large environment for a long period of time. So, you know, those things need to be fixed.
Those things need to be fixed. I should have warned the audience not to try to listen to this episode above 1.0. I'm listening to this at 1.0 and having a difficult time. If there's a way that we can point this to like 0.75, Ryan, I think I would have a much easier time keeping up. But unfortunately, that's not possible for the host.
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Chapter 3: What implications does cavitation have on element synthesis?
And then before it gets, for instance, zinc dipped to make your filing cabinet or whatever, they pass it – through something that tries to remove the fat.
And so he was developing a technology where they used ultrasound and it basically, like cleaning your teeth, it removed this fat so that when it went into the zinc bath, it was completely clean and the zinc could adhere as the sacrificial anode. So what he found was, he found these white spots were being produced on this...
iron and when he analyzed them they found it contained oxypotite which was containing elements that do not exist in the water the fat or the the um in the steel so where is it coming from that started him on a whole journey about investigating whether ultrasound could lead to synthesis of new elements and also potentially excess heat. Well, he did find that that to be the case.
And I visited him in 2000. And is that generally accepted as scientific fact now amongst normie scientists that that is the case? That cavitation can produce new elements. New elements. It is because, in my view, a paper that I published with Binjuan Huang, who was the 50-year thermodynamics professor at Taipei University, he did a presentation in 2019 in Azizi in Italy, of which I was present.
And I asked him at the end of the conference, you can go and see the recording online. And I said, look, have you looked for elements? And I said, I expect you to see elements near these kind of cavitation spot that you found. And then in the subsequent conference, which I wasn't able to attain, it was in Shanghai, I think. he had found carbon and oxygen.
Now, oxygen is obviously in the water, but where's the carbon coming from? Because it's not in the copper pipe and it's not in the water. So where's that coming from? So within three days, I published a hypothesis where the carbon would be coming from the fusion of hydrogen that's in the water and oxygen into oxygen-17.
Then two oxygen-17s would fuse and then fission into carbon-12, which is the most abundant isotope of carbon, and an isotope of neon. And... So I did that. I did not know that he would take that to heart and investigate it. He worked with the leading mass spectrometer company, Maztech, in the semiconductor industry in Taiwan. And we all know they produce the best semiconductors in the world.
These are very keen on extremely precise mass spectrometry. So what am I talking about with mass spectrometry? You ionize a gas or a water vapor, for instance, and then it goes down what's called a drift tube where you've got an electrical potential. And depending on how far it gets, you know what the masses are of the various elements. Do you know what they found?
They found carbon-12 and neon-22, which is the rarest isotope of neon. without seeing neon 20 and without seeing neon 21. And that is the most likely reaction, according to my hypothesis, of what would be produced from fusion and fission of two oxygen 17s to carbon 12 and neon 22. So this became a paper that we published in Nature Scientific Reports.
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Chapter 4: How can cavitation technology transform energy production?
in tests that we've done for the first time on this podcast. So it's a pleasure to be able to share it on this podcast. But essentially, the Great Flood, as it were, for whatever reason you say that that was caused, could have made younger everything that wasn't highly protected on the surface of the Earth. And this has profound implications for dating ancient structures.
And by made younger, how does that work exactly then? So what happens, if everyone's seen a smoke ring coming out of your mouth, the most extreme version of that would be the mushroom cloud. The mushroom is a manifestation of this process. You know, it's chi energy is able to force up and it produces the thing and then it fans out.
The mushroom cloud is the expression of nature and one of its most intense energy structures. But it's as above, so below. So, you know, essentially... In a mushroom cloud, there will be loads of different hydrodynamics going on. What do I mean by hydrodynamics? I mean a gas, a fluid, or a plasma, they're all hydrodynamic mediums.
In fact, the ether itself is nominally considered, you know, it could be a hydrodynamic medium. And so this produces a particular pattern where it focuses energy up the stem into the center, like this mushroom here. Same in a mushroom cloud. And what...
I believe that I found, and I've argued based on physical evidence... In fact, I derived the structure from looking at physical evidence on multiple independent technologies, and repeatedly it can be produced, that it seems to concentrate into what's called a phase singularity. This is a thing which ends up as... It's a monopole, but it's not a real monopole.
It's what they call a topological monopole. So you can go and look at work by Aalto University, published in Nature and Science in 2009... And 2014, one of those is in one paper and journal and one is in the other. But anyway, they're trying to create these in coherent matter in the form of Bose-Einstein condensates.
We're able to create the same kind of effect but on a much more macro scale, not the size of a nuclear detonation, but things that are actually – you can even see them because they can be in the 200 micron or 400 micron. They actually look like a speck of dust. You can physically see them with the naked eye. But many of them are smaller. They're typically in the 5, 10, 20, 50 micron scale.
These things are magnetic cores, and the magnetic strength in those cores can be so high that it causes ordinary matter to literally fall apart, and it falls apart in a wide degree of levels. The most simplest way is a tornado. A tornado will actually produce the same electrodynamic effects, and it makes matter fall apart. It does weird things.
You know, you see this, like, container from a 36-wheeler. It's lifted up very slowly, and it's gently laid down. Well, if it's got a 350 mile an hour wind, why isn't it flying sideways very quickly? No, it's lifting up and then it's flying down. What kind of pressure dynamic would do that? No, it's a thing that's manipulating the thing that manifests gravity.
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Chapter 5: How old are ancient sites like Gobekli Tepe?
Now, how old is the stuff at the bottom? Well, we don't know because people are living on top of it, except for Gobekli Tepe. And Gobekli Tepe has these temples that are like 500 years apart, and they're monitoring the procession of the equinox or something. And if they undid the whole of the rest of the complex, would it be...
The age it is, 12,700 years old potentially, or would it be much, much older? Would it span before? Much, much further back than that event. But the earliest structures there we're seeing is at the point of the cataclysm. How old does that go back? Do we have to wait 500 years to find out how old the rest of the temples are? If we look under those stones in Malta, are they only 5,700 years old?
If you dig under the stones that have never been moved, maybe there's material down there that would point to the same kind of age framework as Gobekli Tepe.
Chapter 6: What challenges exist in the understanding of Carbon-14 dating?
You know, we're in a world where we cannot accept radiocarbon dating. But at the same time, the technology is so beautiful. It gives us unlimited energy by proxy through enabling safe use of fission reactors, whether that be uranium-235 or thorium cycle reactors. Safe use. Removing the mental barriers that the population have to having it in their backyard. That's one.
as a transition technology to this technology, which is able to give us all of the elements we need in the periodic table. And the way I look at it, it's like baking a cake.
Chapter 7: What are the implications of synthesizing elements from the environment?
You have the same ingredients, which is just energy. Energy is packaged into various isotopes of various elements. You pull that in, and it basically converts into energy packets, which are nothing. They're no elements. And then by baking, so what Adamenko shows in his 760-page book called Controlled Nuclear Synthesis, published in 2006, you can go and buy it now.
It's about $170 as a digital download, but you can go and buy it. When I realized that this is producing quark-gluon plasma, I thought, oh, yeah, that's what it is. And then I thought, I wonder if Stanislav has already worked that out. And I searched it in there. Yeah, it's in there.
Chapter 8: How does consciousness relate to the concept of reincarnation?
Right. So, like, when you come from two ends of the spectrum, like, I'm super low budget, he's, like, ultra high budget, and you meet in the middle, and it's already been verified by the highest levels of the US scientific community that this is real, then you've got to believe it, okay? But what he says is...
What goes into these cores, which he shows in his patent in 2003, is an iron-rich crenelated sphere. The hollow core is a nuclei-nucleon electron macrocluster. Basically, it's no elements at all because it's quark-clon plasma. And periodically, new elements are synthesized and they get ejected. But he shows that as you pack nuclei density in there, or you can reframe that, as you pack...
pack more energy density into it, it goes through a threshold where, firstly, it moves from light elements all the way up to iron, and it stays. And he's got a diagram in his book. He says, iron, iron, iron, iron, iron, iron, iron, iron, iron, iron. Over a whole range of different densities, it only produces iron. And then suddenly, you go through a critical threshold.
He's literally got the maths in his book. I don't even have to do it, right? And it says, when you get a critical energy mass density in there, it then shoots up. to every element you could possibly imagine. And so you want to catch it on that curve from iron. Now, in our initial tests on that, we saw the same kind of things that I've just shown you.
I'm not sharing it today because I need to process the data, but it's in a video, and you can see the whole video, which will be published, of the live recording session. We see arsenic. And there is only oxygen, iron predominantly, and a few other elements which we just showed.
Now, if you take oxygen-17, this key element, this spin nuclei of oxygen, which gets synthesized in the Huang reactors, which was part of my predictive, which was then shown to be proven, and you combine that with iron-58, you get arsenic, which is a single isotope. Now, later on, we're moving a little bit further in, we see zirconium.
If you take oxygen-17 and mix it with arsenic, you get an isotope of zirconium. You see how it's building up? And this is just one example. I don't want to say this really, because we only saw a sign of it, but we saw uranium in there. We saw uranium from a lightning strike on normal soil with copper in play. This means we can make any element we want. We literally have the power
what I call gods with a little g toolbox. But we have to accept that it comes with great responsibility. and we should use it, you know, praos, you know, the meek shall inherit the earth, but the meek meaning translated from the Greek praos. You have great power, but you use it wisely, effectively. Is the government even going to let this... It's already out.
I know, but it's out, but it's not really being... acted upon yet, right? Well, it has been acted upon in terms of George H. Miley took the stuff offline, the proton scientific lab, and moved it to the national labs for the part of the fusion program. But what I'm saying is a child can run a cavitation experiment with a $35 ultrasonic cleaner, Reynolds wrap and water.
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