Matt Beall Podcast
The HIDDEN KNOWLEDGE that connected the ancient world | #88 Matt LaCroix
22 Jan 2026
Chapter 1: What is discussed at the start of this section?
This is so much more than a lost civilization. This touches on reformatting our understanding of not only history, but science, even religion, understanding of the universe. It's very significant what I uncovered. They left the most advanced ancient code. In order to find it, you had to be basically an initiate of mystery schools. And then what happens to humanity after Gilgamesh?
Empires rise, fighting and battling each other. We go to the darkest time in human history. The two most important symbols, from Bolivia, Peru, to Von Turkey, and I have them all in one place as the entire temple layouts themselves. The three doors, they're essential for understanding of the universe.
The middle door is physical reality, the left door is the underworld, or Duat, and the right door is the celestial realms. This is a blueprint model for not only human ascension, but the universe itself. Ionis' flower is a solar flower to the above. The celestial, the underwater ruins are seas because that's where the origin of nature is. It's the underworld.
Kefkalesi, tetrahedrons, structure of physical reality. Each temple is a manifestation they created of the structural reality itself. A word to unlock everything else and nobody on this planet spoke it.
Chapter 2: What did Matthew LaCroix discover during his travels?
And now I'm about to give it back to humanity. The word is
It has been three months since you've been on our show. And I usually don't have guests back that quickly. Actually, let me just pause and rewind. No, three months since I did a show, not on your show. Did a show. But you were on our show about three months ago. Eight months ago, I think. Was it really?
Yeah. Oh, my God. Yeah. It was not. I was living in California still. Oh, wow.
Okay. That's like a time warp.
I know. I know it is. Yeah.
That's crazy. I thought it was much more recently than that.
It's actually been a little while, believe it or not.
Yeah, for sure, for sure. Well, this is really good timing then because we were talking about your trip on the show and you were heading to Turkey and you were so excited about it. And it was a great episode and you got everybody pumped up about your trip. And so now the follow-up of what did you learn?
And it's kind of like the most mind-blowing thing that you're going to dedicate your life to what you've learned essentially, right?
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Chapter 3: How does the knowledge of the ancient civilization connect to modern understanding?
And it's what it is, is essentially exploring a lost chapter of our history. You know, when... And where we were at that time, back when we first did our show, was we need to try to find evidence of a lost civilization. We need to try to see if we can prove that it was real. I do believe that conversation is over. I do.
And I think there's an entirely new conversation that is going to come out of that, which is where we're going to be going in this show, is... First, laying out what we've done, what we found, and then what the implications are for that. So it's not – the arc of discovery of what I'm about to go over and explain is not simple. It's incredibly complex.
So everybody listening to this right now, you might want to go get a snack, something to drink, and buckle up because – this is going to be a journey. And the funniest thing is that there's a term that a lot of people use, which is going down the rabbit hole, right? And a lot of people don't like that term because like, no, when you try to understand things, you ascend and you go up.
So why would you use that? This conversation will be that rabbit hole because instead of just going up, we're also going to go down. And so that's going to be very interesting for people, I think.
So you haven't done a podcast in three months. You've had your world flipped completely upside down from what you've discovered, and you're here, and you're here today, and you're sharing this information with the world. So if I could just ask, because I'm just so grateful that you've chosen Limitless to come on to and to share this information with the world, what was it?
What was it about this show that made you want to kind of do that?
Well, I know you and having spent time getting to know you and talking to you and have a lot of conversations and you have a level of understanding that is necessary in certain components that I need. I needed somebody that I could express this to who has an understanding of what hermeticism, fractal geometry, consciousness. I needed somebody like that.
That's essential for this to convey this message correctly. And so... I want to be able to lay this out in a way where I, where we can expand and include all the necessary components to understand what this is, but we can't go too fast and we can't jump because if we do, we will lose people. This is so much more than a lost civilization. This is a full paradigm shift.
And this is also, this touches on, reformatting our understanding of not only history, but science, spirituality, natural law, hermeticism, even religion, understanding of the universe. It's very significant what I uncovered. And to give a little bit of a backstory about where we went and what was happening during this exploration is,
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Chapter 4: What is the significance of the three doors in ancient teachings?
They are what I found. Me's are divine decrees of understanding how an entire civilization should function and how the understanding of the universe works. It's everything. It's like a blueprint for a world.
Double click on that, the me's part, just because I don't want to lose anybody here. So talk to me about me's and what exactly.
I originally didn't know what the me's were. And so when I was writing the book and doing the documentary, I went and flew to Penn Museum to go to the archive to go explore this. But I didn't really understand what it was. And nobody really talks about the me's. Nobody does. Who discusses that? Because they're confusing. Nobody really understood what they were.
They're divine statues and understandings that were given. Divine statues of what? Of everything. Of everything. Of how the universe works, of how the fractal nature of everything, about what we are, what we're a part of, how a civilization can thrive with everything through moral philosophy, all of it. So this is what's wild. Gilgamesh goes to the underworld.
I want people to really remember this. The underworld duat, not hell. That's what religion did for it. It's not an evil place. This is super important for us to lay this foundation. I bet you I'll get a good 5% of comments that are calling me some kind of whatever, something evil, right? Not on this channel, I don't think. Not on this channel, perhaps, right?
Yeah, no, the comments are overwhelmingly supportive on this channel.
The big thing we're going to really be talking a lot about is the Duat underworld, so get ready. So Gilgamesh, he goes to seek Zayasudra in his abode. Where is his abode? In the underworld Duat. The Duat is the Egyptian term for the underworld. So he goes there, and so what do you do? He has a conversation with him. If you can combine this with the Epic of Gilgamesh, you get the whole story.
Gilgamesh tells him every, Zayasudra tells him everything. That's how they learn about everything. That's why Gilgamesh and all the tablets that come after occur because of this one meeting. Wow. Zayasudra tells him everything. The whole history of Eridu to Sharupak, what once existed. But most importantly, he gives him, he doesn't just tell him, he gives him the me's to bring back
It's a way to create civilization with every moral foundation necessary to understand everything. So he brings it back. And what happens? He misuses it and loses it. And then what happens to humanity after Gilgamesh? Empires rise, fighting and battling each other. We go to the darkest time in human history. Because of why? Because we lost the one thing we needed most.
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Chapter 5: What insights does Matt LaCroix share about ancient symbols?
Yeah. It's not separated. The eyes, to me, man, I mean, if I'm interpreting this from a... I've just never seen this before. The first thing that popped into my head was, got these big eyes, and I'm sitting here and looking at Roz with these big eyes, and this guy's supposed to be coming from the sky, you know, and it's... Or being a part of the... A lot of it was symbolic, though.
Yeah, I know. I would caution you on that.
Well, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, that's fair, but... But notice at the right, he has human eyes.
Right.
So that's the point.
Now, there are three T's. See that?
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Chapter 6: How do the concepts of the underworld and cosmology connect?
Those are some almond-shaped wraparound freaking eyes right there, though. I mean, that's straight up with that hat on, man.
You're seeing the mirror in the symmetry here. And then you also see how there's three T's right above the tree of life. They're feeding it to knowledge. Now, this is where we can add on to it. First thing is, obviously, because of the levels, we know this is in the underworld, right?
So we know that that's being passed in the underworld, and we'll get to where that gets super interesting, especially considering the fact that Gilgamesh went to see Zaya Sutra, who was in the underworld, remember? So it's really interesting, actually, when you think about that.
And you see this in Peru, you see this in Egypt, you see this in Turkey.
Well, that was what I was trying to say, is that this is not, it's like an entire philosophy understanding. Right. That each one of these symbols has a specific meaning. Now, let's go through this.
Yeah.
Where is above Enki's head, you see that he has almost like a crown or like a ball at the top. It's just like in Egypt where they have the sun above their head. It's the same thing. It represents all knowledge. Now, notice how he's not passing it to the left or the right door. He's passing it to the middle door because he's passing it to us.
He's passing it to us to understand how everything functions and works. And it gets even better. If you notice above the middle pyramid, can you scroll in, Ryan, to the two eagles and the symbol at the top there? At the very top in the middle. Yeah.
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Chapter 7: What role does Hermeticism play in understanding ancient knowledge?
There is where you then get very interesting symbols that are repeated all around the world, even during the time of the Renaissance. And we're going to talk about the Renaissance at some point. You see those spokes that come out at the top? There are seven of them. That is not a coincidence. There are seven colors in the visible light spectrum. There are seven chakras. Which spokes?
Above the eagles, right in the middle. Those are seven. Oh, I see. They're flowering. It's like a flowering coming out. Now, what it's flowering out of is the diamond in the center. The diamond represents the balance of all. And what it's essentially showing you that if you follow all of this understanding, all of it, you will reach the highest levels possible to ascend.
It's basically the map to ascension and how everything works and functions. And there's like, I'll give you an example. The lion is a guardian of the lower realms. That's why he's down at the bottom. The eagle is the symbol they use as the guardian for the upper celestial realms. So they're guardians guarding each doorway. Does that make sense? Haldi Enki is the guardian of the middle door.
The eagle, the archetype of the eagle guardians, which we see eagles all over the world. They became a war symbol. They're a guardian of the upper celestial realms. And then the lion is the guardian of the lower realms. That's why he sits on the Giza Plateau. between the underworld underneath and the celestial above. He's the guardian between them. That's what his whole job was.
Does that make sense?
Yeah, yeah, for sure, yeah.
So we can take this even much, much further. Matt, Ryan, let's continue to, let's get into the next, can you pull up all the images really quick? We gotta have to move to the next understanding, okay.
So what I wanna do now is. And it might be a decent restroom time for me.
Okay, let's do it. I'm chugging water.
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Chapter 8: How can humanity change its course towards a better future?
It's, you know, they're... they had specific definitions and usages of these. And so it'd be good to now show someone around the world. And so the first thing is obviously, yeah, you can start with that. That's excellent. Is the first thing is that the inverted step pyramid has been there all along, right? So that was what was found as a cipher stone in Egypt. It is there.
It's, it's hiding in the background. Sometimes what we think is the focus has the inverse also there, right? So this is just another example of showing where that inverted pyramid also exists. And we're going to get into defining what all those mean as we get along here too. But go ahead, Ryan, let's go and explore and show some of the other ones.
So this first one I want to try to explain to people This is what's called Napa Inglesia in Peru. This is a cosmogram. So it has the three doorways. The picture is cut off, so it's only showing you the middle doorway and the left doorway in that photograph of me.
But what I want to show is that notice the design that I highlighted in the bottom, how it's a mirror that connects to something that basically... shows the two different sides of it, right? So you have a mirror of above and below being mirrored in the exact same design. And there you have the three-level step pyramid into the entranceway, not only the above structure as well.
And go to the next one, Ryan. I just want to sort of go through some of these for people to see.
Where's that on the right? The...
That's the same structure, that's why I have the arrow. It's basically that entrance way. Oh, that's the entrance. If you want to look at it, because it's often, you look at something vertical, but you don't look at the horizontal.
I see it, yeah, thank you, thank you. My apologies, I was focused on the left and then finally got to the right.
And go to the next one, Ryan, we're going to just run through some of these. I think it'd be really helpful for people to see. So here's the, on the right is the giant basalt tea pillar from Chavis Tepe, somewhere around seven tons. I mean, they're like four feet long, just incredible.
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