How Much Could Andy Burnham Cost You? 

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Merryn Somerset Webb 1:18
Welcome to Merrin Talks Your Money, the personal finance edition of Merrin Talks Money. In these bonus podcasts, we talk about the best strategies for making the most of your money. I'm Merrin Somerset-Webb, editor-at-large for Bloomberg UK Wealth. Now, this week kicked off with some drama in British politics. No particular surprise there. Following Andy Burnham's victory in the Mayfield by-election and growing pressure from Labour MPs, Keir Starmer announced his resignation as Labour leader and prime minister. Burnham quickly confirmed what we all already knew, which is that he would be seeking the leadership. And that is widely expected to happen in the next few weeks without much of a contest. So we imagine that Andy Burnham will be the next prime minister.
Merryn Somerset Webb 1:59
And the question then is, what will Britain look like under Andy Burnham? And more importantly, what will it mean for your money? Spoiler alert, probably nothing good. With me to help explore that question is Philip Aldrich, senior reporter covering the UK economy for Bloomberg News. Phil, welcome. Thank you for joining us today.
Phil Aldrich 2:21
Good to be here.
Merryn Somerset Webb 2:22
Right. The first thing to say, I guess, is that assuming that Andy Burnham is going to stick to the fiscal rules, which he has said he is going to do, that leaves him with very little immediate wiggle room, right?
Phil Aldrich 2:36
Yeah, I mean, we've got 23 billion of headroom that Rachel Reeves left us with, which itself was a relatively small amount of headroom. Unless he gets really lucky with growth. Yeah, he's really got very few options. At the end of the parliament, most of the hard work is going to be done with these frozen tax thresholds, which are going to really irritate most people. of the electorate. So you can't really see the government pushing through that, even a Burnham government pushing through with something which is going to be so unpopular right before a general election.
Merryn Somerset Webb 3:07
Yeah. I mean, I suppose the first thing we should actually do is just remind everybody roughly what the fiscal rules are, right? Which is that, you correct me if I'm wrong, because you're the technical guy here, not me. One, that we need to be pushing towards a budget surplus by 2930 so that spending isn't surplus, although there's that sort of fluffy bit around what is spending and what is investment, right? And the second major one is that Public debt as a percentage of GDP needs to be beginning to trend down by 29, 30. And looking at where we are now, that seems to be verging on impossible. And we had the May borrowing numbers were horrible, weren't they? Much higher than expected and nearly 12 billion pounds in May spent on interest on our debt alone, which is horrible.
Merryn Somerset Webb 3:52
So you look at this stuff and you think, well, Even if the Osama government had hung on and Reeves had hung on, this was still going to fail come 29, 30, unless there was a massive spending squeeze or some sort of bizarre boost in growth, which seems inconceivable.

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