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Money Rehab with Nicole Lapin

Some Good News on the Stock Market

28 May 2025

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After some really messy economic headlines for the last few months, we may actually have some good news. To break it down, Nicole is joined by Ryan Detrick, the Chief Market Strategist at Carson Group. Today, Ryan shares some signs he’s seeing in the market that nearly always indicate good news ahead… and whether this time could be different.

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2.15 - 23.421 Nicole Lappin

I'm Nicole Lappin, the only financial expert you don't need a dictionary to understand. It's time for some money rehab. After some really messy economic headlines for the last month, which has really felt more like a decade, we might actually have some good news ahead, which is awesome.

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23.461 - 45.013 Nicole Lappin

So to break it down, I'm joined by Ryan Dietrich, the chief market strategist at Carson Group, whose voice you might recognize from his many, many, many features on CNBC. Today, Ryan shares some signs that he's seeing in the market that nearly always indicate there is good news ahead. Yay. And whether this time could be different. Ryan Dietrich, welcome to Money Rehab.

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45.413 - 49.617 Ryan (Chumba Casino Narrator)

Thank you for having me. I'm excited to be here and I hope we have something to talk about. It's been boring out there.

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50.277 - 56.423 Nicole Lappin

I wish. I kind of like want a little bit of boring in my life right now. That would be a welcome change.

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56.884 - 67.033 Ryan (Chumba Casino Narrator)

Yeah, I guess with markets, it's not giving it to us, but I hear you. And at least, you know, if we would have done this a few weeks ago, we'd have one thing to talk about. Now we've got maybe some positive things to talk about. So that's a nice change from that point of view.

67.284 - 81.069 Nicole Lappin

We do. We've been seeing some bullish signals lately. So let's start with an easy one. The S&P 500 was up one and a half percent three consecutive days. OK, S&P, what does history tell us about that? Is that a good indication of momentum?

81.429 - 85.45 Ryan (Chumba Casino Narrator)

Yeah, we think it is. Now, let me start like this. You know, I've done this for over 25 years, I guess.

87.791 - 113.642 Ryan (Chumba Casino Narrator)

and it feels like every time we start a new bullish phase those first couple days everybody comes out of the woodwork and says well it's just a short covering rally well it's just a bear market rally it's going to roll over and what we're going to talk about now and maybe even a couple more rare breath thrusts that we've seen so just know the lows are likely in i mean that's our base case and one of them like you just said is up three days in a row one and a half percent you can have one day two days of big moves but to see three

114.262 - 134.358 Ryan (Chumba Casino Narrator)

is really, really rare. Went back to 1950. It's happened 10 other times, only 10. Six months later, S&P has higher nine out of those 10 times. And a year later, higher 10 out of 10 times. So never lower a year later after three straight days of one and a half percent gains. And the average returns like up over 20%. Now I'll just layer one more on here.

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