The Economy of Everything
Episodes
Closing the books: the best of Money Talks, 2025
08 Oct 2025
Contributed by Lukas
For the final episode of season eight, Liam is joined by Money Talks producer Jane Yee to look back at the best bits of the show for 2025. ...
Nigel Latta 'What matters is time with people you love' (reissue)
01 Oct 2025
Contributed by Lukas
In May, we launched this season of Money Talks with Nigel Latta - clinical psychologist, author, broadcaster, and friend of host Liam Dann. With the s...
From a hair transplant to a $12k daybed: Sam Wallace breaks down the costs of fame
17 Sep 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Liam Dann sits down with broadcaster Sam Wallace to explore the financial realities behind the glitz and glamour of fame. Sam opens up about the press...
Health cover premiums are rising. An insurance CEO tells us why
10 Sep 2025
Contributed by Lukas
What’s really behind rising health insurance premiums? Southern Cross Medical Care Society CEO, Nick Astwick, joins Liam to talk about the chall...
From hippy to peanut butter hero: The wild adventures of Pic Picot
03 Sep 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Pic Picot has lived his life like it's one big experiment. He's tried a bit of this, had success with a bit of that, lived on a commune, sailed the Pa...
Westpac CEO Catherine McGrath on what keeps her awake at night
27 Aug 2025
Contributed by Lukas
What does it mean to be responsible for one of New Zealand’s biggest banks? Westpac CEO Catherine McGrath joins Liam Dann to discuss the respons...
Bree Tomasel on being a "shit-talking hustler"
20 Aug 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Broadcaster, author and Taskmaster NZ star Bree Tomasel reckons her whole job can be summed up as “talking shit for a living.” But b...
Michael Van De Elzen: From chicken manure to celebrity chef (but don’t call him that)
13 Aug 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Chef, TV host and farmer Mike Van de Elzen has worked in some of the toughest kitchens in the world, from London’s high-pressure restaurant scen...
Wayne Boyd: Insights from a career spent on over 160 boards
06 Aug 2025
Contributed by Lukas
This week, prolific board director Wayne Boyd shares his best and worst money stories with Liam Dann, including pivoting from his planned legal career...
Opes Partners' Andrew Nicol: From 'poor' upbringing to owning 43 houses
30 Jul 2025
Contributed by Lukas
This week, founder and managing partner of property investment company Opes Partners, Andrew Nicol, shares his best and worst money stories with Liam ...
Two Raw Sisters: How they overcame health problems to become media moguls and healthy eating advocates
23 Jul 2025
Contributed by Lukas
This week, Rosa Powers and Margot Flanagan - better known as the Two Raw Sisters - join Liam Dann to share their best and worst money stories, from ho...
Perpetual Guardian's Patrick Gamble: What he learned from his own financial hardships and property mistakes
16 Jul 2025
Contributed by Lukas
This week, Perpetual Guardian chief executive Patrick Gamble shares his best and worst money stories with Liam Dann, including his family's life chang...
Girls Get Off co-founders Viv Conway and Jo Cummins: Behind the scenes of the business the banks didn't want to touch
09 Jul 2025
Contributed by Lukas
This week, the co-founders behind sexual wellness brand Girls Get Off, Viv Conway and Jo Cummins, join Liam to discuss how their different experiences...
Dame Julie Chapman: How an abusive relationship shaped her move into charities like KidsCan
02 Jul 2025
Contributed by Lukas
This week, the founder and CEO of KidsCan and Pet Refuge, Dame Julie Chapman, shares her best and worst money stories with Liam Dann, from how she ori...
Entrepreneur Derek Handley on tech, housing, and getting dumped by Jacinda Ardern's government
25 Jun 2025
Contributed by Lukas
This week, Liam is joined by entrepreneur Derek Handley to discuss his varied career in the tech and startup space and how that has changed over the l...
Icehouse CEO Olivia Blaylock: How cancer and the GFC informed how she runs her businesses
18 Jun 2025
Contributed by Lukas
This week, CEO of The Icehouse Olivia Blaylock shares her best and worst money stories with Liam Dann - from her start in the business world, her expe...
Comedian Chris Parker: ' I'm going end Tall Poppy Syndrome by just saying it doesn't exist'
11 Jun 2025
Contributed by Lukas
This week, multi-talented entertainer Chris Parker shares his best and worst money stories with Liam Dann, from his first childhood job starring in a ...
2degrees boss Mark Callendar: 'I didn’t set out to be a CEO. That was a bit of a Sliding Doors moment'
04 Jun 2025
Contributed by Lukas
This week, the chief executive of 2degrees, Mark Callendar, shares his best and worst money stories with Liam Dann, including his unusual path to runn...
Georgia Lines: 'I never considered swapping music for something that might make more sense financially'
28 May 2025
Contributed by Lukas
This week, Liam is joined by singer-songwriter Georgia Lines, who shares her best and worst money stories - from starting her own businesses as a teen...
Pals co-founders Mat Croad and Nick Marshall: From childhood friends to RTD moguls
21 May 2025
Contributed by Lukas
This week, Liam is joined by Mat Croad and Nick Marshall, co-founders of RTD business Pals, to discuss how a previous failure informed their meteoric ...
NZ Super chief Jo Townsend: From 'pretty tough' upbringing in rural Tasmania to running an $80 billion fund
14 May 2025
Contributed by Lukas
This week, chief executive of the NZ Super Fund, Jo Townsend, shares her best and worst money stories with Liam Dann - from her upbringing in rural Ta...
Nigel Latta: 'The money stuff literally doesn’t matter to me. What matters is time'
07 May 2025
Contributed by Lukas
This week, for the first guest of the new season, Liam is joined by clinical psychologist, author and TV presenter, Nigel Latta, to discuss his career...
Sir Bill English: 'It's easy to advocate change if you don't have to look into the eyes of those facing the consequences'
02 Oct 2024
Contributed by Lukas
For the final episode of the year, former Prime Minister Sir Bill English shares his best and worst money stories with Liam Dann. See omnystudio.com/...
Musician Jon Toogood: How converting to Islam changed his views on money
25 Sep 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Musician and Shihad frontman Jon Toogood shares his best and worst money stories with Liam Dann. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
MP turned CEO Simon Power: 'I believe in the power of market economies'
18 Sep 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Former National Party MP and Minister, acting CEO of Westpac, CEO of TVNZ, and now CEO of Fisher Funds, Simon Power, shares his best and worst money s...
NZ Initiative's Oliver Hartwich: 'Germans hate inflation with a passion'
11 Sep 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Economist Oliver Hartwich shares his best and worst money stories with Liam Dann. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Suzanne Paul: 'People didn't want me to be motivated by money'
04 Sep 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Businesswoman, TV star and informercial icon Suzanne Paul shares her best and worst money stories with Liam Dann. Suzanne returns to Celebrity Treasur...
Former All Blacks manager Darren Shand: 'It wasn’t something that I had put on my life path'
28 Aug 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Darren Shand, who spent 20 years as manager of the All Blacks before launching his own company, Winning Teams, shares his and best money stories with ...
EnableMe's Hannah McQueen: 'Earning money doesn’t mean that you know how to grow wealth'
21 Aug 2024
Contributed by Lukas
EnableMe founder and author of Kill Your Mortgage & Sort Your Retirement, Hannah McQueen, shares her best and worst money stories with Liam Dann.S...
Bayleys' Lloyd Budd: 'Sometimes we have to say, what are the sacrifices?'
14 Aug 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Chief Executive Officer for Bayleys Auckland, Lloyd Budd, shares his best and worst money stories with Liam Dann. See omnystudio.com/listener for pri...
Foodstuffs' Chris Quin: 'It’s very real to me what has happened with food price inflation'
07 Aug 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Foodstuffs chief executive Chris Quin shares his best and worst money stories with Liam Dann. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Jack Tame: 'I saved from the word go - very nerdily'
31 Jul 2024
Contributed by Lukas
TVNZ and Newstalk ZB host Jack Tame shares his best and worst money stories with Liam Dann. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Dame Wendy Pye: 'There’s nothing wrong with making money out of helping people'
24 Jul 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Rich-lister, Sunshine Books founder, and author of Teaching the World to Read, Dame Wendy Pye, shares her best and worst money stories with Liam Dann....
ACT leader David Seymour: 'I’m a liberal in the classical and consistent sense of it'
17 Jul 2024
Contributed by Lukas
ACT leader, MP for Epsom and Associate Finance Minister - amongst other portfolios - David Seymour shares his best and worst money stories with Liam D...
Author Emily Perkins: ‘We’re always going to be drawn to stories about the unhappy rich’
10 Jul 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Ockahm Award-winning author of Lioness, Emily Perkins, shares her best and worst money stories with Liam Dann. See omnystudio.com/listener for privac...
Briscoes owner Rod Duke: 'I don't spend a lot of money on myself'
03 Jul 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Briscoes Group managing director and majority owner Rod Duke shares his best and worst money stories with Liam Dann. See omnystudio.com/listener for ...
ASB CEO Vittoria Shortt: 'Don’t go and choose something because it pays'
26 Jun 2024
Contributed by Lukas
ASB CEO and the highest paid female executive in New Zealand, Vittoria Shortt, shares her best and worst money stories with Liam Dann. See omnystudio...
Business leader Rob Campbell: ‘I don’t mind being called a Marxist’
19 Jun 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Business leader Rob Campbell shares his best and worst money stories with Liam Dann. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Labour's Barbara Edmonds: 'There was some times when the cupboards would be bare'
12 Jun 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Labour's finance spokesperson and former tax lawyer, Barbara Edmonds, shares her best and worst money stories with Liam Dann. See omnystudio.com/list...
Emma Lewisham on creating her own company: 'If there’s a backup plan, you’re not going to go all in'
05 Jun 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Emma Lewisham, co-founder and CEO of her eponymous beauty brand, shares her best and worst money stories with Liam Dann. See omnystudio.com/listener ...
AA CEO Nadine Tereora: 'Work hard in silence and let success be your noise'
29 May 2024
Contributed by Lukas
The first female CEO of AA, Nadine Tereora, shares her best and worst money stories with Liam Dann. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy informati...
Guyon Espiner on media cuts: 'It's like we've been running from the tsunami for a long time'
22 May 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Broadcaster and host of RNZ's new '30' podcast, Guyon Espiner, shares his best and worst money stories with his childhood friend, Liam Dann. See omny...
Andrew Barnes on 4-day weeks: 'If that's my legacy, that's better than anything else I've ever done'
15 May 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Former Perpetual Guardian boss turned four day working week pioneer, Andrew Barnes, shares his best and worst money stories with Liam Dann. See omnys...
Ockham co-founder Mark Todd: 'I find it quite motivating to spend a little bit of money on things that are unnecessary'
08 May 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Co-founder and development manager for Ockham Residential, Mark Todd, shares hi best and worst money stories with Liam Dann. See omnystudio.com/liste...
Comedian Hayley Sproull: 'I didn't get into this career for money'
01 May 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Comedian, Flech, Vaughan and Hayley co-host, and co-host of the Sex.Life podcast, Hayley Sproull, shares her best and worst finance stories with Liam ...
Stacey Morrison: 'I’ve had to work on getting out of a poverty mindset'
15 Dec 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Flava Breakfast co-host and host of the Up to Speed podcast, Stacey Morrison, shares her best and worst finance stories with Liam Dann. New episodes o...
Healthcare entrepreneur Ranjna Patel: 'Output is one thing, but outcomes are more important'
08 Dec 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Healthcare entrepreneur and philanthropist Ranjna Patel shares her best and worst money stories with Liam Dann.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy...
Sudima founder Sudesh Jhunjhnuwala: 'I’m a vegetarian so I can’t go and buy cavier and filet mignons'
01 Dec 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Founder of Sudima hotels Sudesh Jhunjhnuwala shares his best and worst money stories with Liam Dann.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy informatio...
Spark CEO Jolie Hodson: 'You don’t want to get to the end of life and think: I spent a lot of time working'
24 Nov 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Spark chief executive Jolie Hodson shares her best and worst money stories with Liam Dann.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Mint's Rebecca Thomas: 'Money was not a taboo subject in our household'
17 Nov 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Founder and CEO of Mint Asset Management Rebecca Thomas tells Liam Dann that the financial ups and downs of a life in business were clear to her from ...
CTI winner James Mustapic: 'I do try to be sensible with money - you may not have a gig for weeks'
10 Nov 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Comedian, host of Queer Academy, and Celebrity Treasure Island 2023 winner, James Mustapic, shares his best and worst money stories with Liam Dann.See...
Simplicity's Sam Stubbs: 'I'm probably the most hated man in business'
03 Nov 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Co-founder and Managing Director of Simplicity KiwiSaver scheme, Sam Stubbs, shares his best and worst money stories with Liam Dann. See omnystudio.c...
MKR NZ's Manu and Colin: 'Being a chef is not the ideal way to make money'
27 Oct 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Chefs, restaurant owners and hosts of My Kitchen Rules NZ, Manu Feildel and Colin Fassnidge, share their best and worst money stories with Liam Dann. ...
Jesse Mulligan: 'I think I’m probably the last generation of TV presenters'
20 Oct 2023
Contributed by Lukas
RNZ Afternoons host, The Project co-host and Viva restaurant reviewer, Jesse Mulligan, shares his best and worst money stories with Liam Dann. See om...
Patrick Gower: 'I’m probably the worst with money that has ever been on this podcast'
26 May 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Newshub National Correspondent and host of Paddy Gower Has Issues, Patrick Gower, shares his best and worst money stories with Liam Dann. See omnystu...
Dame Therese Walsh: 'I don’t aspire to be incredibly wealthy'
19 May 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Chair of Air New Zealand, ASB and Project Zero Dame Therese Walsh shares her best and worst money stories with Liam Dann. See omnystudio.com/listener...
Sharesies co-founder Leighton Roberts: 'The economics are a little bit twisted in New Zealand'
12 May 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Sharesies co-founder and co-chief executive Leighton Roberts shares his best and worst money stories with Liam Dann. See omnystudio.com/listener for ...
Broadcaster Toni Street: 'Unfortunately, I am a spender'
05 May 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Coast Breakfast and We Need to Talk podcast host Toni Street shares her best and worst money stories with Liam Dann. See omnystudio.com/listener for ...
Comedian Michèle A'Court: 'Money was an impolite subject of conversation'
28 Apr 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Comedian and writer Michèle A'Court shares her best and worst money stories with Liam Dann.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
TOP leader Raf Manji: 'The stain and the scars of the 80s inform a lot of NZ politics'
21 Apr 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Former investment banker turned city councillor and TOP leader Raf Manji shares his best and worst money stories with Liam Dann.See omnystudio.com/lis...
Partners Life founder Naomi Ballantyne: 'My first memories of money were not having any'
14 Apr 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Businesswoman and founder of Partners Life Naomi Ballantyne shares her best and worst money stories with Liam Dann.See omnystudio.com/listener for pri...
Sir Roger Douglas on 'Rogernomics': 'We were faced with a problem, we needed to fix it'
07 Apr 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Former Finance Minister and co-founder of the ACT Party Sir Roger Douglas shares his best and worst money stories with Liam Dann.See omnystudio.com/li...
Sir John Key: 'Nothing terrifies people more than that they'll run out of money'
16 Sep 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Former New Zealand Prime Minister Sir John Key shares his best and worst money stories with Liam Dann.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy informat...
JP Pomare: 'I embraced being completely broke'
09 Sep 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Bestselling author of Call Me Evie, In the Clearing and The Wrong Woman, JP Pomare, shares his best and worst money stories with Liam Dann. For more d...
Corin Dann: 'I was just so stoked to have a job washing dishes'
02 Sep 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Broadcaster Corin Dann shares his best and worst money stories with his brother, Liam Dann.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Mary Holm: 'People get too scared to spend money'
26 Aug 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Financial journalist, columnist and author Mary Holm shares her best and worst money stories with Liam Dann.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy in...
Shamubeel Eaqub: 'A lot of economics is shades of grey'
19 Aug 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Economist Shamubeel Eaqub shares his best and worst money stories with Liam Dann.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Heather du Plessis-Allan: 'I'm so tightfisted my mum yelled at me the other day'
12 Aug 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Journalist and host of Newstalk ZB Drive Heather du Plessis-Allan shares her best and worst money stories with Liam Dann.See omnystudio.com/listener f...
Antonia Watson: 'Banking is borrowing money from people - there's a huge amount of trust'
05 Aug 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Chief Executive of ANZ New Zealand Antonia Watson shares her best and worst money stories with Liam Dann.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy infor...
Grant Robertson: 'Money plays such a big role in the way we live our lives'
29 Jul 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Deputy Prime Minister and Finance Minister Grant Robertson share his best and worst money stories with Liam Dann.See omnystudio.com/listener for priva...
Jono and Ben: From sleeping in cars to blowing big money on pranks
25 Mar 2022
Contributed by Lukas
The Hits Breakfast presenters, TV personalities and comedic duo Jono and Ben share their best and worst money stories with Liam Dann.See omnystudio.co...
Murray Crane: 'We've seen this dramatic shift in the way people are dressing'
18 Mar 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Menswear icon Murray Crane shares his best and worst money stories with Liam Dann.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Christina Leung: 'Coming here as a child of immigrants in the 1990s, it took a while for my parents to find jobs'
11 Mar 2022
Contributed by Lukas
NZIER economist Christina Leung shares her best and worst money stories with Liam Dann.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Kita Mean: 'The world of drag is very expensive'
04 Mar 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Winner of RuPaul's Drag Race Down Under Kita Means shares their best and worst money stories with Liam Dann.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy in...
Brad Olsen: 'I don't know if working hard gets you a house these days'
25 Feb 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Economist Brad Olsen shares his best and worst money stories with Liam Dann.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Kura Forrester: 'It's amazing how people think, because you're on TV, it must mean you're rich'
18 Feb 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Actress and award-winning comedian Kura Forrester shares her best and worst money stories with Liam Dann.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy infor...
Joan Withers: 'If I really wanted to be very rich, I should have done some things differently'
11 Feb 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Businesswoman Joan Withers shares her best and worst money stories with Liam Dann.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Money Talks Season 3 trailer
10 Feb 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Liam Dann is back for another round of Money Talks! Guests this season include Joan Withers, Kura Forrester, Brad Olsen and Kita Mean! New episodes ev...
Sistema founder Brendan Lindsay - 'I couldn't afford to buy a beer'
27 Aug 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Sistema founder Brenda Lindsay shares his best and worst money stories with Liam Dann.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Jason Hoyte - 'There was always just enough to get by'
29 Jul 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Jason Hoyt shares his best and worst money stories with Liam Dann.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Renata Blair - 'How do we bridge the banking world and iwi world?'
24 Jun 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Renata Blair shares his best and worst money stories with Liam Dann.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Cameron Bagrie - 'We're entering a new era of big government and higher taxes'
17 Jun 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Cameron Bagrie shares his best and worst money stories with Liam Dann.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Rob Fyfe - 'Traditionally I've been very poor with money'
09 Jun 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Rob Fyfe shares his best and worst money stories with Liam Dann.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Chloe Swarbrick - 'Money was talked about as an impediment to doing what you loved'
02 Jun 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Chloe Swarbrick shares her best and worst money stories with Liam Dann.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Shane Te Pou - 'Working class families looked out for each other'
12 Feb 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Shane Te Pou shares his best and worst money stories with Liam Dann.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Economist Sharon Zollner - 'Our predictions will be wrong, more often than they're right'
05 Feb 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Economist Sharon Zollner shares her best and worst money stories with Liam Dann.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Matt Heath - 'Money wasn't a big part of my life. Until it really was.'
29 Jan 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Broadcaster Matt Heath shares his best and worst money stories with Liam Dann.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Theresa Gattung - 'We were brought up to believe you had to work'
22 Jan 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Entrepreneur Theresa Gattung shares her best and worst money stories with Liam Dann.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Sir Michael Cullen - 'Affluence gives you the ability to have choices'
15 Jan 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Sir Michael Cullen shares his best and worst money stories with Liam Dann.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Kerre McIvor - 'It's my god-given duty to spend it'
08 Jan 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Broadcaster Kerre McIvor shares her best and worst money stories with Liam Dann.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Trailer
16 Dec 2020
Contributed by Lukas
Welcome to Money Talks.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.