Episode 573: Neal and Toby discuss the latest GDP report and how Trump’s tariffs may have dampened the growth of the US economy. Then, Meta and Microsoft bring good news for their Q1 earnings as their AI and cloud businesses remain strong. Plus. Starbucks CEO Brian Niccol was hoping his turnaround plan would start out hot…but instead, it left investors feeling a chill down their spine with disappointing Q1 earnings. Meanwhile, Neal shares his favorite numbers from The Vatican, ‘Monty Python and the Holy Grail’, and the ‘Minecraft Movie’. Subscribe to Morning Brew Daily for more of the news you need to start your day. Share the show with a friend, and leave us a review on your favorite podcast app. Visit https://planetoat.com/ to learn more! Listen to Morning Brew Daily Here: https://link.chtbl.com/MBD Watch Morning Brew Daily Here: https://www.youtube.com/@MorningBrewDailyShow All investing involves the risk of loss, including loss of principal. Brokerage services for US-listed, registered securities, options and bonds in a self-directed account are offered by Public Investing, Inc., member FINRA & SIPC. Public Investing offers a High-Yield Cash Account where funds from this account are automatically deposited into partner banks where they earn interest and are eligible for FDIC insurance; Public Investing is not a bank. Cryptocurrency trading services are offered by Bakkt Crypto Solutions (NMLS ID 1890144), which is licensed to engage in virtual currency business activity by the NYSDFS. Cryptocurrency is highly speculative and involves a high degree of risk. Cryptocurrency holdings are not protected by the FDIC or SIPC. APY as of 3/18/25, subject to change. *Terms and Conditions apply. 00:00 - Happy May! 02:45 - US Economy Shrinks 07:50 - Meta and Microsoft Earnings 11:30 - Starbucks Earnings Stink 18:00 - Neal’s Numbers 24:45 - Headlines Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Chapter 1: What is the current state of the US economy and why did GDP shrink in Q1?
Then, honey, I shrunk the economy. U.S. GDP contracted in the first quarter of the year. It's Thursday, May 1st. Let's ride.
Good morning on the first day of May. And honestly, pound for pound, it might be the best month of the year. The Kentucky Derby is coming up on Saturday. Mother's Day is a couple Sundays from now. The NBA and NHL playoffs get really good. Then later in the month, Universal Epic Universe will become the first major park to open in Orlando in 26 years.
The French Open and PGA Championship take place for tennis and golf lovers.
I think you forgot the best part, though, Neil. You can say the Justin Timberlake line, It's gonna be May. That's my favorite part. And now a word from our sponsor, Planet Oat. Neil, I was in the morning brew kitchen yesterday, and I have to tell you, I had to throw some bows to get some Planet Oat.
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Just make sure you let me know when you finish one I plan on using. No promises there. Get your hands on the oat milk that has it all. Visit plantedoat.com for more. The U.S. economy is looking a lot like my brand new jeans that I accidentally washed in hot water. It suffered some serious shrinkage in Q1 of this year. According to Commerce Department data, U.S.
GDP, the value of all goods and services produced across the economy, fell at a 0.3% annualized rate in the first three months of the year. That was the steepest decline since Q1 of 2022 and missed economists' expectations of a 0.4% increase. The biggest driver of the shrinkage was net exports, aka the difference between how much we import versus how much we export.
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Chapter 2: How are tariffs impacting US imports and consumer spending?
imports surged by more than 40 percent in the first quarter, and that subtracted nearly five percentage points from GDP, which was the most on record. Overall, economists were having an absolute field day with this report. because they were all educating us on how GDP is calculated. And the bottom line is that it was extremely distorted by how many imports businesses were taking in.
And that clouds the overall economic picture. So it's really hard to get a sense of how good the economy was doing because of the threat of tariffs that are coming in April. Changed so much about the economy, creating a ton of chaos and leading to a very cloudy picture on how things are actually doing outside of the trade war.
Yeah, you see these numbers about spending pulled forward and you think to yourself, wait, consumer spending is good. It props up the economy, right? But economists were saying that you're basically borrowing demand from the future when you do that. So even though you might have had a gangbusters march that might mean May, the best month of the year, June, July is not as gangbusters as May was.
And so you are seeing a lot of signs of a little bit of just spookiness across the market because S&P 500, NASDAQ had their worst quarter since 2022. You look across the business world as well. Companies are basically giving up on trying to forecast what's ahead. GM pulled its 2025 profit guidance on Tuesday, citing the auto tariffs. A lot of the auto industry has followed.
Delta has pulled its guidance, as we've spoken about, as did a lot of the airline industry. And yeah, consumers are spooked, too. That accelerating of purchases is kind of trying to get ahead of those increased costs, which caused vehicle sales to jump in March. So spend, baby, spend. But it comes with a price later down the road.
Overall, though, I think if you look at parts of the GDP data, it shows that the underlying economy is doing OK. There's this one particular line item that strips away the import madness and inventories and government spending and all of. Those very volatile factors, it's called final sales to private domestic purchasers, which is a measure of consumer and business spending.
It gauges the underlying demand in the economy. That was perfectly fine in Q1. It came in at a 3% annual rate. So a lot of economists were pointing to this to say, Besides all of this import craziness and, you know, the drop in government spending that we saw because of Doge, the three percent annual rate is pretty much, you know, what we saw in line over the past couple of quarters.
So that's holding up pretty strong. So overall, people are doing pretty OK, given all of the chaos that's been going on.
And we haven't said the I word yet, inflation. The Fed's favorite inflation tractor, which is the PCI index, rose 3.6% in the last quarter compared to 2.4% the quarter before. Technically, it's actually not as bad as that sounds because in March it only jumped 2.3% compared to the same month last year. But now the Fed has this very difficult task ahead of them because they meet next week.
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Chapter 3: What do Meta and Microsoft’s Q1 earnings reveal about AI and cloud growth?
Also waiting on Starbucks is coffee bean prices, which hit a 50-year high in the quarter due to weather-related shortages. Despite all of that, execs are confident that their turnaround plan can work. Nickel is trying to speed up order times, hire a lot more baristas, and introduce more seating to cafes.
Nickel's only been at the helm since September, Neil, but investors may already be growing a little antsy.
Pressure's on. I mean, this guy was brought in after turning around Chipotle, and before that he turned around Taco Bell. So he is this turnaround artist who's been known as the Messi of the restaurant industry. They paid a pretty penny for him, stock awards up to $113 million, which is four times larger than the guy who ran... Starbucks before him.
And even he said he was disappointed in this quarter's results because of the second time he's got up in front of investors and said, you know, just give me time. I need some patience. And sure, turning around a massive chain like Starbucks probably takes a little more than six months. But the results we're seeing show that it is still a very much a work in progress.
He's trying to strike this very interesting balancing act because he wants people who go into Starbucks to get it to get coffee to go to get their orders much faster. Meanwhile, at the same time, he wants people to go into Starbucks who want to sit and chill, be able to do that and linger longer. He wants to put new seating in and add ceramic cups and make that a more pleasurable experience.
So there's kind of two different diverging strategies that you're trying to walk this tightrope on.
And we were laughing because you found two headlines back-to-back yesterday, one from the Wall Street Journal that said, Starbucks' new technology can cut in-store wait times by up to two minutes. And then this other headline from The Guardian said, Starbucks says cutting shop staff in favor of automation has failed, which on the surface seemed like two totally different things.
And Nickel did say, over the last couple of years, I think we had the hope that equipment could offset the removal of labor, which we were finding out that wasn't an accurate assumption when that played out. But then it is also piloting this new technology in its stores that it has shaved off minutes from the time it takes to make beverages.
A lot of that is actually this algorithmic thing that says which orders you make at which time. Instead of just doing first come, first serve basis, this new algorithm anticipates how long a mobile order will take to pick up. And so it's just refining the edges of that and causing wait times to fall. And then the final aspect of Starbucks we have to talk about is how is it faring tariffs?
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Chapter 4: Why is Starbucks’ turnaround plan facing challenges after Q1 earnings?
Well, any per capita questions usually lead back to all roads lead back to the smallest country.
All right. My next number is 34 seconds, which is the new shortest song ever to enter the Billboard Hot 100 chart. Steve's Lava Chicken, as the goofy jingle is called, was sung by none other than Jack Black for the Minecraft movie and debuted at number 78 on the chart this week.
It swiped the previous shortest song on the Hot 100 record from Kid Cudi's Beautiful Trip, which clocked in at 37 seconds. Other really short songs that have also entered the charts are Deck the Halls by Nat King Cole, 1 minute and 6 seconds, and Pete Davidson by Ariana Grande, 1 minute and 13 seconds.
Steve's Lava Chicken was no doubt fueled by social media virality having been used in more than 280,000 videos on TikTok, which led to nearly 22 million streams on Spotify, and it further cements Jack Black as kind of a movie soundtrack god because he's no one-hit wonder. His song Peaches for the Super Mario Bros. movie back in April 2023 peaked at 56 on the Billboard chart.
As Dewey Finn would say, that's one way to stick it to the man.
You know what pains me, though, is that Jack Black has all these great songs from movie lore. Like, obviously, Peaches was fine. Chicken Lava is fine. But School of Rock is a masterpiece. Like, I wish some of those songs charted. So what's the lesson here? Sing songs about lava. No, it's actually just shorter songs are getting more and more popular. I mean...
Streaming economics, we've talked about this, how Spotify pays per stream, not per minute. So it doesn't necessarily matter exactly how long the songs are. Then you factor in just the TikTok economy and how artists are writing to try to go viral on TikTok. That compresses songs as well. You don't need to fill a CD anymore. There's no maximum amount of time an album needs to be.
So all of these factors have compressed songs and You know, this is obviously an extreme case, but now we got a song about chicken getting doused in lava charting on the Billboard 100.
My final number is 50 years, which is how long it's been since the release of Monty Python and the Holy Grail. Fans of the influential, infinitely quotable comedic masterpiece have been reminiscing about the movie's legacy for its 50th birthday this week. And one of the most surprising details about Holy Grail is who financed it. Rock legends Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd, Elton John, and Jethro Tull.
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Chapter 5: How is Starbucks balancing faster service with a better in-store experience?
And also, I was just digging into Monty Python lore because there's so much of it. It is so influential. There are seven asteroids named after Monty Python or its members just floating around in this space. The term spam, as in unsolicited emails, is derived from their 1970 sketch, Spam.
The Python programming language, which underwrites a huge part of the internet, is named after the comedy troupe. It is. named after that. That's crazy. And then obviously just its influence on comedy in general, you can't overstate it. I mean, everything from SNL to South Park kind of derived its sketch formats from Monty Python. Tina Fey put it very well. She says, sketch endings are overrated.
Their key was to do something as long as it was funny, and then just stop and do something else. And you can see so much of that influence in modern comedy today. So just, it was shocking to me going through really
how much that they've influenced culture and it all leads back to these rock stars which is another great you know uh fun fact let's spread to the finish with some final headlines the icy u.s ukraine relationship had a major thawing out after the two countries signed a landmark deal that would give america access to ukraine's mineral wealth the highlight of the agreement is the creation of an investment fund called the united states ukraine reconstruction investment fund
which will focus on rejuvenating Ukraine's economy that has been battered by Russia's invasion. The deal is being hailed as a win-win for both sides. The U.S. boosts its business interests in Ukraine, which has 20 strategic raw materials, while Ukraine gets an implicit security guarantee from the U.S. for future military aid.
Treasury Secretary Scott Bassett said this agreement signals clearly to Russia that the Trump administration is committed to a peace process centered on a free, sovereign, and prosperous Ukraine over the long term.
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Chapter 6: What are the implications of tariffs and rising coffee prices on Starbucks?
And what are these minerals that are at play here? We've talked about it a little bit before on the show, but Ukraine has an estimated of 5% of the world's critical raw materials. They have a lot of graphite. They have 19 million proven reserves of that material. key mineral, which is used in batteries for electric vehicles. They also have significant deposits of titanium lithium.
Where it gets a little bit cloudy is when it comes to rare earth metals. That's the 17 elements that are used to produce everything from weapons to electronics to wind turbines. Those claims are a little bit disputed exactly how much of those rare earth metals they have, but Clearly, it's a priority for the U.S.
We've talked about trying to wean off the supply chain that comes in from China, which is why this deal was kind of struck in the first place. But as they kind of go about developing those minerals, we'll see just how much Ukraine actually has.
Speaking of gaining access to a rare resource, Bill Belichick and his 24-year-old girlfriend Jordan Hudson have made too many headlines to ignore at this point.
The six-time Super Bowl-winning head coach, now the head honcho at North Carolina's college program, has found himself wrapped up in a whirlwind of controversies tied to Hudson, who has quickly ingrained herself in Belichick's personal and business lives and dubbed herself the chief operating officer of Belichick Productions.
First, there was the awkward segment with CBS Sunday morning where Hudson interrupted the interview to kill a question posed to Belichick about how they first met. In a statement, Belichick said that the interjection came because he and his team wanted to keep the interview focused solely on his upcoming book.
But then CBS fired back with a statement of their own stating that no such preconditions or limitations were established. Then The Athletic reported on Tuesday that Hudson was also instrumental in killing a UNC version of
of HBO's Hard Knocks docuseries that was on the precipice of being announced, which caused the university to lose out on $200,000 in facility fees and a lot more money in exposure.
So Neil, one story after another is emerging about how Hudson is exerting control over various parts of Belichick's life, leading to some questions about just how much influence the chief operating officer of Belichick Productions should have.
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