Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
Netflix is potentially spending over $70 billion to either cement themselves as the global media giant or show their hubris. We're decoding it all today on Molly Fool Money. Today is Tuesday, December 9th. Welcome to Motley Fool Money. I'm your host, Emily Flippen, and today I'm joined by Fool analysts Jason Hall and Dan Kaplinger to discuss Netflix's agreement to acquire Warner Bros.
Discovery Studio and streaming business, as well as, of course, Paramount's hostile retaliation bid and how investors can really evaluate the veracity of these mega-mergers.
We're going to be unpacking what exactly Netflix is buying for north of $70 billion, why Warner Brothers not only wants to sell, but why they picked Netflix amongst a slew of other options, and how the market is reacting to the news.
And then, of course, we're going to zoom out to evaluate if this deal rhymes a little too closely with some of the entertainment mega-mergers of the past and help build a framework – yes, we do love that word – for judging big acquisitions anywhere in your portfolio. Oh my gosh, guys, I don't even know where to start.
I mean, look, chances are, if our listeners are listening to this podcast, they've already heard of this mega merger, right? If not as a consumer, at least as an investor, since I know we've already discussed it a couple times here on Motley Fool Money. But I think we're going to be taking a bit of a deeper dive today.
Still, for any uninitiated, Netflix is acquiring the film and TV studio segments of Warner Brothers Discovery, which includes HBO and its massive IP library. Jason, I want to pass it off to you first. Netflix is coming into this deal with over 300 million global subscribers and a fundamental business performance that has just been really stellar.
They've been expanding margins, double-digit sales growth. By comparison, Warner Brothers is coming into this deal with, I don't know, tens of billions of dollars in debt, a fraction of the subscriber numbers, and of course, a lot of skepticism from Wall Street on its long-term viability.
When you saw this deal come out, what was your thought process in terms of the strategic logic here for Netflix?
I think this is both a defensive and an offensive move. It's one that I actually really like. I'm generally not a fan of large acquisitions. We'll talk about it later in the show. But history is not good in measuring the performance of those sorts of deals.
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Chapter 2: What is Netflix planning to acquire from Warner Bros Discovery?
Just look at what Disney has accumulated. That went incredibly well for a long time and hasn't gone so well over the past few years. But through that consolidation, as streaming has become obviously the next phase in the way that this kind of video entertainment is distributed and consumed,
There's been an explosion of competition as everybody fights to carve out a share of consumer spending and also their screen time. It's really ultra-important right now because viewing habits continue to trend away from traditional media consumption. I'm not just talking about linear TV. I'm thinking about the impact of social media platforms like TikTok and Instagram.
And then, of course, one of the huge winners right now is the kind of somewhere in between that is YouTube that honestly is about as big as Netflix. And in recent years, Netflix's share of viewership in the U.S. is actually stagnated. Sure, the revenue's grown, the profits have grown, but the actual viewership data is not great because of all of those options beyond linear TV.
Now, on the defensive aspect of what Netflix is acquiring, it's locking up access to that deep Warner Brothers content library. Also, getting HBO's content and its streaming platform under the Netflix umbrella. This is pure consolidation, and it's been inevitable.
As we've seen this land grab with the streaming platforms out there, so many of them are not profitable as standalone entities that we're going to see that consolidation happen. Now, at the same time it's playing defense, Netflix gets to go on offense, too. Getting all of that content, it can monetize it, but then it gets to reimagine it.
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Chapter 3: Why did Warner Bros choose Netflix over other bidders?
Think about the Disney playbook. with the Star Wars and the Marvel properties that it's been able to reimagine. We're going to get the same opportunity here. It can take the HBO library, keep that on-platform in markets HBO already operates in, it has a streaming service in, and then, with its international business, take that HBO library and license it to itself. Guess what?
HBO already has an ad-based tier. That's an easy thing to keep doing. It makes all of Netflix's ad inventory more valuable. These are all really growth-focused things to do. Now, here's the thing. It's going to take a lot of debt to complete this deal. Netflix had about $9 billion in cash at the end of the quarter, nowhere near enough to make this acquisition.
We know that servicing that debt is going to eat into Netflix's free cash flow.
Chapter 4: Is Netflix's acquisition strategy a smart move or an act of hubris?
Here's the thing, that number is about $9 billion a year. over the last quarter, still on the rise, and doesn't include the cash flows of the assets and the operations they're set to acquire. Overall, here's the thing. We've seen Netflix lever up in the past. When it made the move into making its own content, it took out a tremendous amount of debt to do that.
But they've been incredibly disciplined operators. and they use a playbook around discipline and making the right moves and staying within what you're good at doing, I think they're going to do the same thing here. The stakes are certainly higher than in the past because of the size of this transaction.
Now, the question, of course, are Warner Brothers Discovery shareholders going to let Netflix follow through and actually close the deal that the two management teams agreed to do?
Yeah, it's a critical question. And to your point about Netflix being such a disciplined operator, I think that's why it surprised so many investors when they saw that Netflix even made a bid because it seemed like something that lacked, you could argue, a bit of financial discipline.
But to your point, Jason, I mean, I saw this and I wasn't surprised at all because to me, this is Netflix saying, we don't need this content library, but we know if we get this content library, we are absolutely crazy. crushing the competition.
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Chapter 5: How can investors evaluate mega-mergers effectively?
When you compare it to other bids like Paramount, which we're going to talk about in a second, they need that content library just to stay competitive. So it's a position of strength versus a position of weakness. And Dan, I know there was a lot of interest from other streaming and entertainment companies.
And of course, we have to talk about Paramount, who is coming from that position of weakness. They actually launched their own Tinder offer to Warner Brothers shareholders for $30 a share all cash. Now, if more than 51% of shareholders choose to sell these shares to Paramount in the next 20 days, Paramount, of course, effectively control Warner Brothers.
As of right now, Netflix and Warner Brothers have reiterated that they're committed to the initial deal despite Paramount's offer. And the math behind this offer isn't exactly clear. It's not cut and dry. What Netflix is offering is a combination of stock and cash and then also the potential value of the cable assets when they've been spun off versus Paramount's flat $30 cash rates.
But I want to ask you, Dan, I mean, why do you think ultimately Warner Brothers decided to go with Netflix bid? And what, if anything, do you think comes out of this deal?
Yeah, it's easy to get confused with the timeline now, because with the hostile bid coming after Netflix and Warner Brothers had come to an agreement, if you're just looking at it from the outside, you might be wondering, well, why don't they take the new deal? It's more money, why don't we take it?
In practical terms, it's always a little bit more difficult once you have a signed agreement at the end of what has already been this auction bidding war process. Always harder to undo whatever that decision was, even if a better deal comes in later. I think that's where we are at this point. Just bear in mind, I think, as you point out,
The terms of the two offers were not directly comparable, but there's certainly an argument to make that when Warner Brothers finalized an agreement with Netflix, there was a credible argument that Netflix's offer was the higher-priced deal. And so, I think that it's interesting, as Jason pointed out,
The way that Paramount has decided to do this hostile tender offer, it really puts the question directly in the hands of the shareholders in both directions. Shareholders were already going to have the ability to vote yes or no on accepting the Netflix acquisition. Tendering your shares is another way of doing it, but basically, it's the same calculus.
If you tender your shares to Paramount, you want the Paramount deal to go through. If you don't tender your shares to Paramount, you're waiting to send those shares to Netflix, assuming that the deal gets approved and all of that. You ask, where does Warner Brothers see the value in the Netflix bid?
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