Weekend Edition: How far will AI investment go?

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Why is AI considered a massive investment opportunity for big‑tech investors?

Phil Dobbie 0:01
Big tech is just getting bigger and bigger and the reason AI is going to change the world it seems, but it's costing a lot and it's planned to cost much, much more in the years that follow. Does that make you nervous? Or is this an opportunity too big to ignore? The question every investor is asking right now. So let's dig a little deeper on that.
Lincoln Valentine 0:21
The morning call from NAB with Phil
Phil Dobbie 0:24
Dobby. The weekend edition. Well this year to date the Nasdaq is up twenty-two percent, which is a fair bit. The Bloomberg Mag 7 total return index is up twenty-five percent year to date, so a bit more. But there again, the DAX in struggling Europe is up twenty percent, the Nikai is up twenty-eight percent, the Hang Seng is up thirty-three percent. Okay, so the ASX two hundred is only up by eight percent or so, plus dividends, of course. But there are plenty of places Where shares have experienced phenomenal growth this year. But we're all looking at the Mag 7 and asking that big question, can it keep rising at the rate that they have? Well, uh Lincoln Valentine is senior analyst for international equities at JB Weir.
Phil Dobbie 1:04
I guess that the percentage growth is alarming for the Mag 7 because this is growth on already very sizable companies. I mean, w let's focus on the Mag 4, because they are huge and NVIDIA Becoming the world's first five trillion dollar company. So it is an obvious question. I know you can't answer this straight away. If you could, it would be a very short podcast. But I mean the question everyone's asking is how long can this go on for? It is the question.
Lincoln Valentine 1:28
And I wish I had a straightforward answer to it. Um You know, the straight answer is I don't know. I think you pointed out exactly the right fact and that is these are a very large companies. Um and they're growing at exceptionally strong rates. You know, third quarter numbers were were very strong for the Mag Seven, even though you've got the likes of Google and Microsoft, you know, over three hundred billion dollars in revenue growing, you know, mid to high teens rates, which is exceptional um for these types of companies. So, you know, we're not even sure well, we we have some evidence of what AI is contributing to that, but these are just existing strong franchises that continue to grow at at really, really strong growth rates.
Phil Dobbie 2:06
And the and the prices being paid for shares, is that in relation to the growth that we're seeing uh in revenue and and profit, or is it is there a a chunk of that is the promise of the future?
Lincoln Valentine 2:17
Uh look, valuations for for some of these large companies are actually not incredibly stretched for the kind of growth that they're already delivering. So obviously AI is a component of that, but you know, they're not on multiples that um, you know, say with m maybe the exception of Microsoft a little bit, but they're not on multiples that would be um screamingly out of touch where they've traded in the past, even before AI was part of the picture. So you could make the argument they're just delivering on their existing core business. Um The the question would be, you know, the free cash flow numbers are obviously coming down because of the CapEx. So in terms of earnings and the earnings growth is being delivered, um, and they're trading on
Lincoln Valentine 2:53
you know, similar sort of multiples to to earnings that they have in the past, with earnings still growing very strongly. Um the free cash flow numbers, however, are looking a little
Phil Dobbie 3:02
bit different. Um 'cause they're dipping into that now more to make this investment in in in AI. But you mentioned Microsoft there, so why is that out of kill? I'm looking at the EPS for right now. So Alphabet twenty seven and a half. If you look at the all ordinaries uh you know locally, that's about twenty three. But Microsoft thirty seven point eight. So why is Microsoft so much higher?
Lincoln Valentine 3:24
We have a little bit lower than that. But yeah, it's I think it's it's because its business is is very well diversified, um, I guess it's seen as a as a natural place for a lot of enterprises to go to get their cloud services, to get their AI.

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