Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
Hello, and welcome to Scrolling with Haley. I'm Haley Karania. I am so excited for today's show because we're doing a little reunion. We're doing an in-studio guest. I have Sean Farish here. And if you're part of the Bongino Army, you have been blessed to see Sean Farish. hosting the Dan Bongino Show yesterday and today. He did an incredible job. I was there in the chat earlier today.
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I know that you were here to host the Dan Bongino Show, which I want to get into because you were a fan of the show. Yeah. And how do you go from being a fan of the Dan Bongino Show to then hosting the Dan Bongino Show? How does that all happen? I know it takes a few years.
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Chapter 2: How does toxic masculinity spread in the Manosphere?
A little bit. Tell me about that process. A few years. I started listening to him in 2018. And I've been a super fan ever since. Anyone who knows me knows that if you get in my car at any point, you're probably going to hear Dan Bongino. If I haven't listened to it or I may cite an episode or something that he said when I worked at Sherwin-Williams, it would play in the store.
I'd actually have contractors who would come in at a certain hour of the day where I used to play the episode, right? They'd come in. I said, you need anything? No, but I know you're listening to Dan Bongino's figure out what he's saying. So, you know, it was it was all that.
The reason why I gravitated so heavily towards it is when I first listened to it on the Tappan Zee Bridge in New York and I was in heavy traffic. It was the only thing that distracted me from the fact that I was, you know, in a miserable situation, which was traffic. I can't do it. I can't do it. I just can't do it. So this is tough for a New Yorker.
Let me just say we'll get into how we know each other. We're both from New York. But yeah, traffic, not liking traffic and living in New York is that's tough. No, I was going upstate to for Memorial Day weekend. I'm stuck in this traffic and I was ready to, you know, commit an act of terror. It was just really bad.
So, you know, so I'm listening and I hear him bringing the receipts and I'm like, this is going to be a regular listen because I don't think there's BS. This all seems to be backed up by something. So that to me means a lot, especially, you know, fast forward eight years now where you go on social media and you don't know what's real and what's not. Credibility is a big deal for me.
And so, you know, the fact that he was putting forth information that was so credible meant a lot. And The fact that there was an activism element to it also, where it was like, you know, get out, do stuff. I'm like, I want to do stuff. I would run through a wall to do something. So going from that to what yesterday and today brought was phenomenal. It's great.
And I couldn't be happier and more grateful for being given the opportunity to You know, I'm a huge fan of this entire operation. You've got a great show. Vince has a great show. The team is unbelievable.
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Chapter 3: What is the real-world impact of the Manosphere on young men?
Dan is obviously, you know, still doing what Dan does, and he's doing it at a high level. I think the best out of anybody in the space. No disrespect to anyone else. I just think, you know, what he does is unique in that fashion that, you know... I say it all the time. He said it sometimes, too. You know, you may not hear what you want to hear, but you're going to hear the truth.
And that's what matters over everything. So it's been it's been a thrill the last two days. And, you know, hopefully if if all things go right, we'll do it again soon. Yeah. Oh, absolutely. Yeah.
I mean, we're so lucky to have Dan and I'm not going to go through my whole spiel again, because people who watch this show already know, but I was so lucky to meet Dan when I was booking guests on Hannity and I booked him all the time and it started out, I don't know, two days a week booking Dan.
And then he started fighting with Geraldo and you know, the, the beat downs, uh, we would call them beat downs. It wasn't even a debate. It was a beat down. Yeah. And the Bongino beatdowns, it wasn't good enough to have him twice a week. People wanted it more and more and more. So I ended up booking him almost every day of the week.
And he was such a reliable guest where if you called him, he was there. And I love that about him. As a booker, if you are aware of the booking process, it's great to have those go-to guests that you can always rely on, especially in a breaking news situation. So Dan was always great. And we became close and I could ask him about things about my career.
And I remember I was at Fox and I wanted to start a podcast. And it's scary when you work at a big corporation. And this was really before new media took off. This was before, you know, Dan was a huge new media face. This was all everyone was pretty in the Fox News era. orbit. It was very much cable news was king. And this was before podcasts were even really that big.
And I remember I pitched a podcast to Fox News Radio and they were kind of, I don't know. And then I went and I worked over at Newsmax and I pitched a podcast to them and they were kind of like, I don't know. And I told Dan about it and he was like, just do it, just do it. And I never did it. So anyway, here I am doing it finally. There you go.
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Chapter 4: How do social media influencers shape perceptions of masculinity?
But this is why it's so important to have good mentors and good friends and people you can trust in this space because they're hard to come by. And trust is huge. And this is why the new media is so important. But I feel like now in the new media, especially after Charlie was assassinated and then when Dan was at the FBI, there was definitely a vacuum and a void left in the space.
And there are so many good people, but they're just... They weren't as good, you know? And we're so blessed to have Dan back. But I feel like still in this new media space with these conservative influencers and podcasters, I am so disheartened. It's almost like a don't meet your heroes moment because I see people that I used to look up to for years and years and years
And I'm talking about the Ben Shapiros of the world and Megyn Kelly's of the world and Mark Levin's of the world.
These are people that I used to work with at Fox and now they're all fighting and measuring their dick sizes and whatever on X. And we were talking about this before the show started where I don't really talk about the conservative beef much on my show because I don't really care to... pay attention to it and follow it, and you were the same way.
What is your top line reaction when you see these people fighting? What is your reaction to it all? So I pay attention to a lot of some of the beef, but more of the beef with the less established figures, like the social media ones. Well, you mentioned the vacuum that was left when Dan left.
And I said something similar a little while ago and said, you know, there are so many people who squandered an amazing opportunity. There was a vacuum when Dan joined the FBI. And the first thing they did is start attacking him. Right. What are you doing? Why don't you build something special with this opportunity you have? You, you know, not steal the audience. Right.
But put yourself out there and build something, you know, without value that people can can use. They can go to your show, they can go to your content, and instead what these people resorted to was the instant gratification, the sugar high, the click bait, and started running with these wild, everything was sensationalism. It was shock jock culture.
Everyone wanted to be Howard Stern instead of giving us the truth and what's going on and how to help and how to play a role in advancing this MAGA agenda that so many of these people say, oh, Trump's breaking his promises. We need to we need to pressure him to do what we want. But you're not doing anything.
You're sitting behind a microphone and you're making things up and you're cherry picking information and you're you're you're not. there's maybe a fact here, a fact there, and then a theory here and a theory there. And now you're in, you know, a whole other zip code, another reality, and no longer dealing with the truth at this point.
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Chapter 5: What role does credibility play in media consumption?
How did we get from, OK, it's taking a rare track to we made it. Right. You know, and by the way, these are the same people who will call climate change a hoax. Well, there's, you know, we can't control the climate, but we can create hurricanes, right? Seriously? Now, I'm a weather nerd.
I know all these things that are going, nerd, total, I'll geek out and I don't want to post all the technical crap and X and in these arguments, but this is what I'm talking about is... You know, incomplete sets of facts, lacking context. And it sounds awfully similar, for example, to what the mainstream media does, right?
Well, Donald Trump had a conversation with a guy who had a conversation with a guy who was tied to Russia, who had dinner with Vladimir Putin three years ago when the lights were off on Tuesday. Therefore... Because there is an association, Trump stole the election with Russia. And this is what a lot of these other people are doing.
And then when folks call it out, because I'm not just gonna call out someone who's BS-ing me because I don't like what channel they're broadcasting on or who they voted for. If I see nonsense, I'm gonna say, I think that's nonsense. Doesn't matter who it is. I'm gonna say, I think that's nonsense. I'm guided by the truth, not by clicks, views, sensationalism, and this fan fiction type nonsense.
So when people call it out and go, I'm not so sure that the Egyptian planes had anything to do with Charlie Kirk's assassination. You got the time wrong and they got this. Or the tunnel. The underground tunnel people. Apparently there were tunnels under the school. That's what I was like, you lost me. And bees and like this whole thing. You lost me. And it's like, I don't think so. Oh, stop.
Stop attacking. It's infighting. Well, it really isn't because you've abandoned the truth. You're not on my side if you've abandoned the truth. You may have voted for the guy that I voted for a couple years ago. Now you're telling people not to vote. You're definitely not on my team. But it's one of these things, like I said, where...
If I think you're lying, I'm not going to right off the bat say you're a terrible person. I don't think that's true. I think we're missing something.
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Chapter 6: How do personal experiences influence political views?
And then people take that as it's an attack. It's infighting. And I go, it's not. It's just I'm trying to pursue what's real versus what isn't real or what might not be real or what. Well, all of that. And that's what bothers me. this is the issue with new media and this is gonna sound crazy because I'm part of the new media and I think there's a good side and there's a bad side.
And to your point, and, Again, you all know where I stand. I'm not a fan of the legacy media, but I did get my start at Fox and I got my start at Newsmax and I've worked at these bigger networks before. There are pros and cons to that. I definitely learned from some of the best in the business. I'm so grateful for my time there.
There are certain journalistic practices that you learn when you come up in this business. And telling the truth is important. And not running with stories when you don't have all the facts is important. And when I say that, I'm not talking about CNN and MSNBC. They have no standards at all. They don't follow these journalistic standards.
They run with whatever they wanna run with, and they run narrative first, facts last. I'm not talking about them. But I have learned from, I would say, bigger corporations what to do and what not to do. And I think the new media is wonderful because you have all these new voices. And there are so many people that have great personalities that grip people and they have amazing audiences.
And they're good at getting attention, but they're not good at telling the truth. And they don't know how to... take care. We have such a huge responsibility in the new media to tell the truth. And I want people to follow me because they like me, of course, but because they know that I'm not lying to them. I am not BSing them ever. It's going to be way easier for me to get, like you said earlier,
a bajillion views talking about crazy stuff. And I do a conspiracy segment. I love conspiracy theories. I love talking about them. It's intriguing. But you have to do it in a responsible way. You can't just run with every video and every question. And there's certain things that you have to say to make people know that, hey, we don't have all the facts.
I'm just telling you what we know now and certain things.
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Chapter 7: What are the dangers of sensationalism in new media?
So I get frustrated with the new media because I feel like we have some people on social media, especially, not even just in the podcast space, but social media, And things just, it's like wildfire how misinformation spreads. And then we have just this grifter class of new media that I know that they all have each other's phone numbers. Go call each other.
If you have beef with someone, go call them. I don't want to be a part of this. But they bring everyone else in because they're monetizing off of their beef. Yep, yep. I know that Megyn Kelly has Mark Levin's phone number. I know that they have Ben Shapiro's phone number. I have no idea what they're fighting about at this point because I don't care. I have no clue.
I have no... I have no... I don't know how it all started. I don't either. Around the Israel thing probably because that's where everything starts. But like... Right. I saw these comments from, you know, Megyn Kelly about Mark Levin and his manhood and all that. And I'm like... Really? Like, this is where we're going. Look, I'm not above a good childish joke, right?
Like, I'm not saying that I wouldn't say so. But, you know, this is the same woman, Megyn Kelly, who made the comment about, or asked the question, the very first question that Donald Trump was asked in the debate was Megyn Kelly. And she said, well, on your Twitter account, you called women you don't like fat pigs, dogs, slobs, and disgusting animals.
And then Trump dropped the legendary only Rosie O'Donnell. which was the best response. That's when everyone knew he was going to win. But it's like, so you were clutching your pearls about those types of comments. And here you are 10 years later doing that. Becoming that. Fine, whatever. But for someone like me, Where you said trust is important, and for me, consistency.
That's not to say you can't change your mind when you get new sets of, you know, as Dan says, new sets of inputs could create new outputs, right? If you have a new set of information, you could change your opinion. But when I see... whether it's Ben Shapiro, whether it's Mark Levin, whether it's Megyn Kelly, and these are all people who have had very successful careers.
I'm not taking anything away from the accomplishments that they've made professionally. But when this type of thing goes on, and then you have the president chiming in on it, there are... You know, I looked this up yesterday, and again...
no not taking away anything that this man has built but tucker carlson has not once not once on social media posted about the safe america act not that's the most important it is the most important piece of legislation possibly in the history of our country in terms of securing our elections you know how many times he's posted about israel i mean hundreds fine whatever but
Why are we not focused? It's fine to have other things. I'm not saying everyone has to focus on what I want them to focus on, because I don't like that either, that kind of Karen, you're not talking about this, you must be paid by someone. The amount of people who've been accused of being paid by is great, by the way.
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Chapter 8: How can young men find positive role models in today's society?
But my worry is the midterm elections. To your point about certain people worrying about other things than the Save America Act and actually securing our elections, this should be something that is bipartisan. This should be something that people have no issue with signing on to. I don't understand why there are Democrats and people in this country that claim to serve their constituents
How can you not pass this? How can you not make this a priority? The Democrat, their whole mentality about this is that women are too stupid to figure out how to change their names. I love this. It's great. And of course, minorities can't figure out how to vote and get an ID. It's so asinine. And part of me, it's funny because they know that their voting base is stupid.
So I eat that up because I think it's funny. But it... None of that is true. I mean, these people, they might be stupid, but they do know how to get an ID. Everyone has an ID because they know how to get beer on St. Patrick's day and they know how to get, you know, all the things that you need an ID for these days. It's just, it's stupid.
Um, but yeah, the Democrats are, they're really floundering right now. And I guess the only person they really have is Gavin Newsom, knee pads Newsom. I know you were talking on the show earlier today about all of his little nicknames and new scum and all that stuff. But Yeah, that's pretty bleak, I think. But we have to get people to the polls. Yeah. And you were bringing it up.
It's a great point about midterms. Republicans don't do so hot in the midterms. We really kind of lose steam. And I think we came off of this second Trump win and the second Trump administration. And we were
Maybe resting on our laurels a little bit and then with you know everything with Charlie Kirk and we were just kind of floundering for a little bit we have to get that momentum back and Certainly something like the Save Act should be enough to get people out to vote and realize the Democrats are are damaging this country Yeah, well and I look at the Save Act is very unlikely that it is signed into law.
It's just the truth It's not what I want. I want it to pass but it's unlikely that it gets through the process Um, so we have to, we have to go back to 2024 mindset pre save act. We've won elections without the save act, right? So we can win elections without it going forward. Not to say give up, say prepare for the worst.
Because if you're sitting there thinking it's going to pass, it's going to pass, it's going to pass, and then you're let down, you're like, what are we going to do? You should have been prepared, right? There's about 15% chance this thing passes. Fine. Push as hard as humanly possible to get it passed. Call your senators. Call your representatives. Do as much lobbying as possible.
Mobilize people. No problem whatsoever. Make your videos. Post your content. Talk about it. Post about it. Campaign on it. Do what you've got to do. But prepare for it not to pass because there's a better chance that it's not going to pass than it is going to pass. And that's just reality, right? So go back to pre-SAVE Act, pre-SAVE America Act mindset of too big to rig. We won in 2024, right?
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