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No Laying Up - Golf Podcast

1171: Canada, Cauley, and Curtis Cup

15 Jun 2026

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Chapter 1: What did Bud Cauley accomplish at the Canadian Open?

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Be the right club. Be the right club today. That's better than most. How about him? That is better than most. Better than most. Expect anything different. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to the No Laying Up podcast, presented as always by our friends at Titleist. Solly here, joined by my guy, Mr. TC. Hello, TC. Greetings, Solly. Big, big weekend of sports.

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And it kind of rolls on tonight, too, as we're recording. we are we are recording this as the uh back nine is beginning here of the curtis cup we got the world cup going on here you are out uh your son's out playing sports this week a lot going on dj pie as well stanley cup playoffs that's right nba a lot lot going on dj pie is here as well hello dj Hey, guys.

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I feel like TC with the World Cup, it might be a weekend of sport, you know, more than sports. Just an absolute weekend chock full of sport. You sound like all the Brits that are rolling through, you know. Everyone saw that German guy whose account was going nuts, and now a lot of people are doing the same World Cup thing in a lot of places.

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But a lot of people look like they're having a great time with it. It's been a great... bit of fun vibe. I'm so in on the World Cup, but that's not what we're going to talk about tonight. We are going to talk about the RBC Canadian Open, Bud Colley's triumph there. We had Zach Fisher. He won on the Corn Fairy Tour.

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Gina Kim and Yanna Wilson won the Dow, and as we mentioned, it is looking like the U.S. is going to win the Curtis Cup as we get going here. We got a bunch of news and notes on the PGA Tour. Of

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course of course we've got some live golf news uh we'll talk about the curtis cup a little bit the guys here dejan and tc got a chance to see the new renovation uh at medina three ahead of this year's president's cup we're gonna talk a little bit about that a little bit of checking on the rosters first time i'd done that uh looks looks great everything looks great uh and a tiny bit of u.s open stuff uh on the back end but of course as mentioned bud collie your winner

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taking down the field in Toronto with his all-titlist setup. Bud's setup starts with his Pro-V1X golf ball that makes it nine wins in the last nine weeks for titlist golf ball players on the PGA Tour. Bud is also among the over 65 players on the PGA Tour who have already made the switch to new GTS drivers. He's playing an 8-degree GTS 2 model.

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That's back-to-back wins on the PGA Tour for GTS after the Postman won last week. From there, Bud moves to his GTS3 wood. He's got a blended iron set with a U505 utility, a T254 iron, and 620 MB blades. He's got four Vokey SM11 wedges, three F grinds, and a K-Star grind.

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And his 60 degree was rolling the rock with the Scotty Cameron go low seven tour prototype putter head to titles.com to find a fitting near you. You're going to want to test this GTS driver. The guys I played with on Friday are, are we're like literally asking me questions about a book one.

Chapter 2: What are the latest updates in PGA Tour news?

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I got to scroll back up. I typed it in. Oh, T54. Oh, man. DJ, I think you mean it will not be his last time in contention.

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did i say it won't be his first time yeah it was his first time it will not be his last time thank you tc uh the flag was picked up by jackson suber fresh off a three-shot win at his us open sectional qualifier in maryland i should that's always a good one to always a good one to tip right i mean look who's playing well at u.s sectionals and just ride the hot hand uh he took it one shot

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You want to just get ahead of this? I don't know what the fuck the detective means. You've been saying it all day on Slack. I feel like I'm in on 99% of your jokes. I have no idea what you're talking about. If I don't know, TC, I feel like maybe the audience probably doesn't know. Funky and I always talk about it. In your private messages? We've been all over X the Everything app with it, too.

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We just keep firing back and forth the little emoji icon for a detective, like a little Inspector Gadget guy.

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Chapter 3: What allegations are surrounding Phil Mickelson?

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I was playing golf. We were playing with Spencer Levine.

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and I was like hey like you got any nicknames for anybody out there on coming up on tour he's like I like this I like this super kid he's just always asking you questions he's like a detective I call him the detective that's all it is God I wish I would have known that it would have enriched my golf season you have not tweeted the word detective since a true detective season three reference in 2017.

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I don't call it's not detective it's just the emoji sorry Go to my replies. Come on. Be better, Zali. Anyways, the detective takes a one-shot lead into the final round. Came out and birdied the first, continuing this. Loved this. He had birdied every par five for the week through that first hole. There's only two par fives on the golf course, but...

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birdied them all birdied the first one today but got caught in the early going by jimmy stanger who birdied his first four holes of the day was absolutely filling it up we're going to talk more about him uh probably in a little bit maybe when we go down the leaderboard the tight race until bud call your eventual champion to hit the gas after the turn he made birdie on 11 made a very unlikely birdie on 12 drove it way left into some some knee high

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kind of hay that was just out there in random spots. Very pro hay on the golf course. Wedged it out and then chipped in from 93 feet. Nance called it the shot of his life. Turned out to be prescient. Kind of slammed the door. Also made birdies on 13.

Chapter 4: How is LIV Golf's funding situation impacting its future?

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He did survive the rink TC, which we will talk about. We'll get there.

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birdies 15 give himself plenty of cushion more more notable shot I think we have to talk about he blew it a mile and a half right on 16 and banged it off of a moving golf cart uh which seemed to keep the ball out of the woods uh kick it back into the kind of light rough actually kind of sitting up from there and he just made it easy par uh you know what it's your day it's your day

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So Bud Colley slams the door, gets his first win on the PGA Tour in his 239th start. Love this. This graphic was all over the place. There's only four people on tour, active players, that have made more starts with zero wins. Patrick Rogers has 330 starts. Mark Hubbard has 277. Bo Hosler has 245. And Sam Ryder has 240. And I guess maybe I'll frame...

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conversation through that lens which is for me you know we were every one of these podcasts is kind of this is our perspective on the situation my perspective is man bud cauley i like i met that guy for the first time when he was like a sophomore in college and he was just getting ready to light the world on fire and it's just uh it's wild that now these people have gone through

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such career arcs that I'm like, man, the other guys on that list, Patrick Rogers, Bo Hosler, like I remember watching him in college, watching him famously at the NCAAs. It's just, it's kind of funny to see, you know, we're getting to almost like the end of the careers for these first wave guys that I feel like we really kind of came up with. And that made today all the more fulfilling for me.

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You know, I think Bud Colley, like you've seen the The ride that he's been on, all of this kind of comes in the shadow of this 2018 car accident that totally upended his career, led to this broken leg, collapsed lung, all these problems with his ribs. He ended up missing like four years of his...

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golfing prime and then comes back and pays it all off today and i think it could be you know it could be a very saccharine story but it's instead i mean it's it's just context and depth and a yeah a reminder of like how good he was back and then had complications like that's kind of the part i honestly kind of forgot or you know i knew he took a ton of time off but i kind of forgot he came back and had like serious complications and took the three-year hiatus that was the part that

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um you know we had a lot of guys try to keep track of and it doesn't all stay top of mind but i really you you sent over that uh pj tour mindful documentary they did on him and it was like it's it's really well done it's uh you know just you know you've you watched that you're like oh well i feel a lot more towards bud collard than i did before i watched it which i know is exactly the purpose but i would recommend people check that out to see

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of the details of how he's his life has changed completely as a result of that accident some for the positive uh and obviously the the tremendous challenges that has given to his golf game but man it makes it makes today seem that much more unlikely and and you you do uh we've always said at tc you never count that guy out and if it finally comes to fruition he's finally a pga tour winner in his 239th start

Chapter 5: What highlights emerged from the Curtis Cup at Bel-Air?

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He's definitely not a bomber to come up, be a solid tour pro, and then just...

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lose you don't play golf essentially for like four years come back the tour is going a different direction with distance and speed and everything and you like the talent level that has come up is all faster faster faster and you still like how i always feel when i'm playing really well i'm like if i take a week off my god it's all gone everything i've ever done is gone all my talent's gone like i gotta i'm starting from scratch when i tee it back up like i cannot imagine taking that much time off and coming back and competing at the absolute highest level like you said to see without having like

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overwhelming traits or an overwhelming skill. It's just a straight getting the ball in the hole quietly most weeks without being noticed until it's finally your time to pounce and you do it, man.

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Chapter 6: What are the implications of the US Open qualifying changes?

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It's awesome. I'm really, really happy for the guy. Great stuff in that kind of mini documentary that you shouted out on the PGA TOUR's YouTube channel too that When, like you said, so the accident was at the Memorial in 2018. He had come back by that fall to play the, I think it was Napa or something like that later in October.

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So, I mean, he got over the initial injuries fairly quickly, but that required putting in all these plates and pins and, you know, all these different things to kind of rebuild after the injury. And what ended up happening was kind of like a... the surgical scar ripping open and fluid leaking and they had to go in and take the plates out.

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And he has, you know, I don't mean to, you know, take this from the doc, but it's, you should go watch it. But it, he's talking, I did not realize any of this when he goes back into like what he was actually facing was they're trying, they couldn't get the plates out and they were talking and they're like, well, the next step would be like taking out the ribs so that we can take out the plates.

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And he's like very, he's very funny guy. And he's like, well, that's like, didn't, didn't really think that would, you know,

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boated well for the golf swing was like having no rib cage it's just just really tough and it's it's yeah I don't know all this stuff can wash together when it's a new story every week and everybody's got adversity and everybody's got can you believe this guy did this but yeah man it's a real saga and a real journey and

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kind of it's kind of one of those that uh makes it worthwhile to watch golf for 10 years you know see the the arc of these guys because when he came out of college man i mean it was i think there was the stat was he's like the fourth guy i think to go straight from college to the pga tour and the names are like justin leonard tiger woods and ryan moore who's one of the best amateurs ever i mean he was supposed to be the guy and he and he was playing really good golf even you know before the injury he didn't really break through but it was uh

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Yeah, it's just a wild ride that culminates in a day like this. So it's always fun to see somebody get their first win, especially when there's all that kind of baggage associated with it. Yeah. Will say he could have hit a little farther there on 18 into that green, maybe a couple of revolutions away from making the only mistake you possibly could have at that point.

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I mean, almost like Kyle Stanley there.

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which shout out to shout out to the tour and listen we can get into the golf course and and all of that i thought the setup was better this year they can't do anything about it being soaked other than change the date of the tournament but they shaved down a bunch of stuff around the greens uh including on 18 and there was a lot more consequence for a non-well struck iron shot into some of those greens now

Chapter 7: How are the US and International teams shaping up for the President's Cup?

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I found one. Easiest way to find TC's murder. Just a bunch of detective emojis. Wyndham is playing awesome golf, man. He's going to win. I wouldn't call it awesome golf. He's playing good golf on bad courses. He's playing very good golf, TC. I mean, Beerfield Village is a good golf course. Yeah, I mean, the CJ Cup. Yeah, sure. Is that worse than not winning? You know, I mean, he still won.

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We can get into Tommy because I'm glad Tommy didn't win this week. TC, you have tweeted the emoji at Bunky two times, once on June 13th and once today. So that was this week only. Maybe it's more just text. Yeah. Hundreds of detective emojis going back and forth. Oh, Ivory Coast is on the board. Huge. You're so distracted, Solly, between Curtis Cuff and World Cup.

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And trying to find your damn detective emojis. Do you want to talk about Tommy? Not really. I don't think we need to talk about him until he's first or second round leader and wins at Shinnecock. I think T11, 67-65, 67-70. Solid week. Game looks good. I think we're in good shape. Even part of the day, didn't want to win it, and didn't win it.

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mission accomplished plaza banner uh wyndham clark has played played good golf on bad golf courses tommy's got him right where he watched it it's an interesting interesting one i think i got i kind of pulled one out on you guys oh this is amazing With the data golf points by age thing is basically a straight line. I don't subscribe to that shit.

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With Tommy Fleetwood and Sam Burns, you were coming hard at Sam Burns, and it was kind of an enough is enough TC situation. Stand up to Tron week. Stand up to Tron.

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yeah i just i don't i don't feel anything for sam burns but i was like i i just i don't know we can't just keep flinging these in one direction tc i think there's we just have the amount of time i don't feel like anybody flings anything at sam burns that's the point tommy tommy cops all this shit from so many people and sam burns is allegedly this top 10 golfer in the world and whenever it's a big moment he just

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You know, he just recedes. Same thing in team events, too. Tommy's a big dick player in team events. That's true. Tommy has been better in team events. That's big of you. Sam Burns is an excellent. I feel like it's the opposite. I feel like Sam Burns gets, like, chided and dismissed often. Almost completely, mostly because of the bad team event stuff.

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And people seem to not like the guy for whatever reason. But the one dude that kind of breaks the mold a little bit, he's just like an unbelievable putter. And that's different from a lot of the other bomb, like the bomb and gouge guys. He's an unbelievable putter until he has to make putts. And then he becomes just a really mediocre putter.

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I doubt the stats support that at all, but he's like the best. Yeah, still like the best putter in the world. And he's just quietly been playing really, really solid golf for a strong period of time. So I was ready to, yeah, I picked my battles and let TC get one in on Sam birds. When DJ got in, I'm like, ah, fuck. Yeah, let's go. Let's go.

Chapter 8: What are the key storylines heading into the US Open?

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You could get a weird bat. Like, there's real consequence on all of those holes, and I think it's worthy of a named stretch. So, you know. Okay. Number four. You have problems with it? Any issues with that? No. I'm okay with it. 16 and 18 are just kind of pretty. I don't know. 16, I do not think is good golf hole, but. Would you put the bear trap ahead of it? No, no, no.

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I would put the snake pit ahead of it. I'm fine with your ranking. You're glazing the green mile a little too much for my liking. I think it's just long golf holes that are harder in relation to par sometimes.

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uh number three i don't call it this but enough people do call it this the coliseum tpc scottsdale the thing that kicked all of this off i think has to be on this list has to be represented uh i didn't even know that had a name yeah i just i knew that was kind of rattling around the back of my head i had to do some research but i saw many many references to they call it the coliseum uh so i've got to take those people at their word

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uh two okay this one does not have a name but i've seen so many names bandied about people have tried to do for all these other stretches uh what you know they've tried to do the same thing to this stretch what they've done for all these other stretches which is crazy because they're the far like the best holes on the list so far 16 17 18 at tbc sawgrass

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I have seen it referred to as the gauntlet. I think Dean Beeman tried to get that going. Like, no, no. What's he going to do with the gauntlet? We should sell some T-shirts with the gauntlet on it. I saw another picture out there among the crowd. I guess you're calling this the gauntlet. Yeah, I mean, that's why they call it the gauntlet, baby.

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If they connected it to the intercoastal, they call it the marina. You guys been at the gauntlet all day? You guys just out here? Well, he's still got to get through the gauntlet. We'll see. You can use that one. I saw some people refer to it as the Bermuda Triangle, which I enjoyed. I have never heard a human being say that, but I saw that in print somewhere. It is kind of a triangle. Exactly.

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I know. I thought that was actually not as stupid as it sounds. And then I found this one. This was a... think this was from the gosh what was it was one of the newspapers from like oh it was the gainesville sun uh from from 2012 wrote a whole column about this trying to come up with the name and they called it the bfg uh which they said stoods for best finish at golf uh which I had never heard.

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I'd just like to get the fire accordion thing going and breathe a little bit of life into that. Maybe we can get the BFG going next year. We should put that on one of the airplanes. Welcome to the BFG. I think it's the big fucking gauntlet. That's what it is now. That's great. Number one, no surprise, Amen Corner. Wait, what about the Horrible Horseshoe? I forgot.

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Admittedly forgot about that one, TC. Shit. I knew I was going to forget, and that would have got us to 10, too. Horrible Horseshoe goes in between. It's got to be ahead of the Green Mile. It's ahead of the Green Mile. Yeah, yeah. It's number four. In between the Coliseum and the Green Mile. Good call. Are we talking Amen Corner at Augusta or Amen Corner at Golden Ocala?

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