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Chapter 1: What is discussed at the start of this section?
Be the right club. Be the right club today.
Johnny, that's better than most. How about him? That is better than most. Better than most!
Expect anything different?
Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to the No Laying Up Live show. Sunday, United States Open recap. Solly here, joined by, we had to convince him to come on. It was tough. It was a struggle. Mr. TC, I'm sorry for your loss. Sorry for this week. Hello and good evening.
Appreciate that. It seems like apology season all of a sudden. Everybody's into the spirit of the sorries. No, I wish I could have been on with you guys last night, spent the night with the fam, but I am here tonight. Yeah, what a weird day. We'll get into it.
DJ Pie is here. Hello, DJ.
Solly, hello. Time to open up some grape, my man. I saved myself one transfusion. And I'm going to need all of it tonight, I think. It's going to be a cathartic one, a big one to talk through.
We're going to be joined a little later. Big Randy's coming in. Neil's going to come in. kind of run through. It's not a bullpen game. We're the openers. We're the starting rotation. We'll be bringing in some arms to help us bring it home.
You saved arms yesterday. That's why you saved arms yesterday. You can go big on the finale. We got a full bullpen ready to rock tonight.
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Chapter 2: How did Wyndham Clark perform at the U.S. Open?
We're in a world where Wyndham Clark's a two-time major champion.
The U S open specifically too, right. Is, is always weird where you get, you get Andy North, you get, you know, Ratif Goosen, you get some of those guys that just, it just clicks twice in six years, twice in seven years, you know, whatever it is in a way that it doesn't seem to happen at a lot of the other majors.
And Brandel speaking of Ratif Goosen, Brandel said two things I thought were super interesting last night on live from, first of all, he was talking about Shinnecock and he's like, you know, every, everybody talks about the width and everybody talks about the wind and, and all that stuff. He's like,
according to him, he said Shinnecock is by far the most iron or the most putter dependent us open venue. And I think the reason is because so much stress gets put on your putter with missing that many greens and the ball rolling far away and having all those par savers and also the lag putting, which is exactly what we saw from Wyndham Clark. Not just today, but for the entire tournament.
How good did he look? I mean, even going back to yesterday, right? When he, he kind of three putts that first hole and looks like, Oh God, maybe he's going to let all the air out of the balloon. And then I think it was a two or three. There's three, the next part four, where he had probably a 90 footer that he, he hit to that close. So it was like, Oh man, he's like, he's not going anywhere.
Like he might, he might give some back, but he's not going to go shoot 80.
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Chapter 3: What were the reactions to Wyndham Clark's win?
And the putter carried him, man. As much as the ball speed is kind of his ticket at the Byron Nelson, I mean, the putter was the thing this week that absolutely kept him in. It's just like every fucking putt looked like it was dead center until maybe at the last minute it dove or something. But they all looked so good.
I know. They all look great. Bumpy as hell, too.
Fourth in putting this week. Yeah. And we'll get into Shinnecock and break that down. To your point, though, Deej, there's a ton of variance in the leaderboard defined by putting. I think that's still very different than a piece-of-shit putting contest on the PGA Tour because... There's a ton of short game that goes into it. And the short game shots are just hard to get super close.
So you end up with those five, six, seven, eight footers that are outside the hole that we just don't see very often on the PGA Tour. And that's a special skill. And one that, honestly, Scotty, I feel is kind of a weakness for him. And that kind of came through in certain ways. And that's another way you just...
tip your cap to him man it was um it was a really really strong performance every time it dipped he came back and and responded in some way and uh yeah he's i don't know is this the is this does he have more majors in him like what what what do we what do we do big picture with this is a
there's a bit of a uh sam stevens is the next robert streb tc i don't know if i'm ready to consider that right now so let's get let's get a little deeper into this show and we could we could think about that what was your shot of the day for him because i think that's an interesting question for me it was everything on 10 10. like that that drive was really cool on 10. like i think that was showed a lot more artistry than i think we've seen from him at least off the tee um
It was like a low, if you don't remember what we're talking about, it was the hole where a lot of people are hitting irons. You can tumble an iron down that hill and kind of get down to the same spot. And you just hit this like bullet drive.
We pulled driver and they were like, whoa, pulling drive. And then it was like, oh, this is what we're doing. That was a shot.
Hit it right down to the perfect spot. And then just that wedge that was ripping. And yeah, it was just like two perfect golf shots.
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Chapter 4: What insights are shared about the U.S. Open venue?
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To Mr. Burns. Mr. Burns, excellent. 67 today, finishes a three under for the tournament. He had a good one. This was a good stat I saw. There's been four players in the U.S. Open history that have failed to convert the 54-hole lead one year and then won the next year. He had a chance to join that crew, illustrious crew. Alex Smith,
Your guy, TC, ball nowhere, Alex Smith, John McDermott, Bobby Jones, his friends called him Bob, and Payne Stewart was the last one to do it in 1999. Alas, that was not to be. Hot start for Bermuda Burns.
Birdie's the first, hits it like inside two feet, hits it inside eight feet at number three, makes a bomb at number five, which cuts the lead to five, makes another bomb at number eight, which cuts the lead to two. What are you thinking at the turn? Was this... Did this feel real to you guys? Did we think that this was a threat or what?
Well, didn't his bomb on five cut the lead to three? I think you said five. It cut it to three. Oh, sorry. That was when it was getting real. Yeah, it was extremely real. Happened quick, happened fast. Yeah, he played an awesome round of golf. He started to develop a really strong U.S. Open record. I love how... I love how hard and committed he swings at the golf ball.
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Chapter 5: What future U.S. Open venues are being planned?
We're going to go here, and then we're going to go to Pebble next year and Oakland Hills, and we're going to make, yeah, we need to make money, but I love that they are thinking about this as a set of venues and not just we got to cash in. Like some of the complaints we've had about the Ryder Cup, we got to cash in now, man. This is the cash cow.
This is the opposite of that, and there's going to be consequences to that or things that there's downside to that, and I'm cool dealing with the downside to that. That's where I stand.
Chapter 6: How do the venue choices impact the championship experience?
That was beautifully well said. You know, I think it's, I mean, just the fact that, yeah, we have Pinehurst mixed in, public access, Pebble public access. I mean, yeah, they're resorts and it's expensive and it's a totally different experience, but it would be a shame if the game or whatever the modern U.S. Open outgrew
that golf course, because it's amazing, amazing golf course, important for American golf history, you know, and it's one of the few places, Randy, where we're going to get that guaranteed wind. Like, you know, we don't have to sit around and wait for the wind like LACC, and that's important for this championship to provide a very different test
all those watching at home uh then we then we see at other pga tour events and other major championships and um gosh yeah i i i appreciated these comments from juan and i appreciate that uh uh you know i i still would love it if it had a better vibe on site it's not like today we seemed a lot better um and you know people definitely stuck around to the end it felt like uh somebody did send me a video of everybody piling out after winda made birdie on 16 but
Uh, it's, it's a worthwhile exchange for me. If the, if the setup, you know, I don't care how much money they make one and two, if it's a little less of a crowd vibe and we get to watch that golf course, I I'm down with it. And it would be a bad, bad, bad sign for, uh, this championship. If they like, wouldn't go to this because it's not their biggest moneymaker.
Yeah. I thought that, um, Hey, it was, I thought the smartest piece of analysis in journalism from anybody the whole week from Brennan Quinn, like it was just awesome. Um, I would give the, I would give the RNA a little credit for like rhythm and when they eventually hopefully go back to your field as well.
It's like, all right, you, you know, you got a red line, the engine at the Hoyt lakes, or if they go to port Marnik or something like that to make those dollars, then to kind of, hold you over. I think it's a smart thing for Juan to acknowledge this in the context of the players wanting a big cut of the money and him basically saying, hey, we're leaving money on the table.
It's not all about the money for us either. We're investing, you know, hopefully this is a long-term investment in the quality of the pro game and just the competitive game at large. But again, like I think it's, yeah, I think the...
the late tea time felt like a weird own goal last night or you know yesterday even like we were talking about it friday and i was like man like why are they going off so so late tomorrow night and it that just felt like a little bit of a maybe getting too cute with it or like hey like make it make it easy for people to watch golf in person um and then i think lastly just
like you can go to these cathedrals um but man like it doesn't it doesn't hit as hard if if your TV product doesn't show it off correctly and can't capture the action and all of that like I I'm a little bit worried that that element of it that that like they're only getting 40 to 50 of the value of going to a Shinnecock because they're not getting just a half-decent production on the media side.
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Chapter 7: What are the implications of Rory McIlroy's comments on PGA Tour events?
I think ā and this might sound like a small thing, but there's no shade out there, and I think that's also a factor. It sounds too simple, but it's like, man, there's no trees, and there's ā I think they'd do themselves a favor if it wasn't all ā everything that's covered is either the merchandise tent or the hospitality stuff that's a badge.
If they just had some tents that were just like open ā that you can stand under, I think it'd make a big difference because it, I think by five or 6 PM, people are like, yo, I'm hot. It's dusty. Uh, that train horn's going off and I don't want to miss that train to New York. It's like some, I think like simple stuff like that is, is, you know, probably would help.
Um, because that, that was definitely a factor.
I think that is spot on, having been to a couple of those. I mean, Erin Hills is like that too, right?
That's just odd, man.
It gets sunburned. How many trees are out here? Three? Yeah. Okay. Yeah, I think what I really like about this, and maybe I'm oversimplifying some of this a little bit, I get that some of these entities are businesses that need to make money for their members or for their mandate or whatever, but the... But at the end of the day, this to me felt like the point is to crown a worthy golf champion.
And TC, you said it as we're going through the leaderboard. I could hear it in your voice almost just like, man, there's a lot of different players, a lot of good players. And it's just a proper championship rather than just like, well, no, I know we can't technically host the best championship here, but... This is the best for a hospital. But this is the best for parking.
But this is the best for, well, the founders want to put a tent here. And it's like you just get the tail wagging the dog so often at these championships that you need someone like the USGA to be like, man, the point of what we're doing is to host championships and to identify who is the best golfer in the world this week over four days. Above all. Yeah.
And that, that has to, it's just, it sounds so silly when you break it down to the studs like that, that, that every tournament isn't that way because that's kind of the whole point, but it's just gotten so out of whack that to hear those quotes, they almost sound like radical. When in reality, it's like, well, isn't that what all four of these things are supposed to be?
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Chapter 8: How does the broadcast quality affect viewers' enjoyment of the tournament?
So it's not just them, but it's, yeah, it was just very, very refreshing.
And he called out like Wingfoot, Marion, Riviera as well as like, hey, these are more limited field places. Limited spectator. Yeah, sorry. And then I think Oakland Hills, I'm getting more and more excited to see that just because...
it's like hey we haven't seen it in forever it's been renovated and those fans are going to turn up for it i think in michigan but in that midwestern way not in the fuckhead new york way no offense neil well and i'm curious just our route to getting there through the next two venues which are they're going to almost certainly narrow the fairways and grow the rough for those and
We'll see how that goes. And I'm curious just to ā I've never been to Oakland Hills. I don't know anything about it. But I'd be curious before you get there if that is a ā this was such a celebration of not narrowing fairways and growing the rough. And I thought it was a very watchable tournament for four days. And I kind of don't want to see them retreat backwards into that.
But they have a lot of venues coming up that support that.
I would push back, though, slightly. And what I mean by that is I think ā similar to mixing it up with a Pebble Beach and a Shinnecock or Pinehurst and Shinnecock as far as the ability to host a modern tournament. I think having a U.S. Open that is about thick, rough... mixed it like a variety because that's part of American golf. Do you know what I mean?
It might not be the type of golf that you want to watch, or it might not be super different than what you see on the PGA tour, but I think it's important and I'm, I'm okay with, I just don't want it to be that way every year.
And I think that's so like pebble beach, if that's the test next year, I think I'm okay with that because we got the wide fairways and they let Shinnecock be Shinnecock this week. I think the diversity of venue is, is a feature, not a bug. because I wouldn't want them to play it at Shinnecock every year, personally.
And you don't want to try to import Shinnecock.
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