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Attachment-Focused EMDR with Deb Wesselmann: Children, Families & Trauma Recovery

23 Apr 2026

Contributed by Lukas

In this episode of Notice That: An EMDR Podcast, we sit down with internationally respected clinician, trainer, and author Deb Wesselmann to explore t...

"Cognitive" Interweaves in EMDR: From Scripts to Relational Process

03 Apr 2026

Contributed by Lukas

In this return to our Back to Basics series, we’re diving into one of the most misunderstood—and often over-scripted—parts of EMDR therapy: inte...

Can You Use EMDR During Pregnancy? Debunking the Biggest Myths with Beth Warren

02 Apr 2026

Contributed by Lukas

What happens when one of the most meaningful seasons of life—pregnancy and early parenthood—collides with trauma, grief, and attachment wounds?In ...

The Perinatal Window: Trauma, Matrescence, and EMDR with Dr. Nirit Gordon

12 Mar 2026

Contributed by Lukas

Becoming a parent is often described as one of life’s most joyful milestones. But what happens psychologically, relationally, and neurologically dur...

Collecting the Bones: Ego States, Self-Work, and the Therapist’s Inner World with Jessica Downs

19 Feb 2026

Contributed by Lukas

What happens when therapy stops being about techniques — and starts becoming about you?In this deeply reflective episode of Notice That, Bridger and...

Fostering Resilience in EMDR: Neuroplasticity, Meaning, and Healing

05 Feb 2026

Contributed by Lukas

What if resilience isn’t about “bouncing back,” but about the brain’s ongoing ability to adapt—moment by moment, across a lifetime?In this e...

Sex Therapy Meets EMDR: Healing Shame, Reclaiming Pleasure, and Sexual Health with Cassie Krajewski

29 Jan 2026

Contributed by Lukas

In this episode of Notice That, we dive into one of the most avoided—and most essential—topics in mental health: sex, pleasure, and sexual health....

EMDR for Couples: Simultaneous Processing, Attachment Trauma, and Healing Together with Arilda Surridge

15 Jan 2026

Contributed by Lukas

EMDR for Couples: Healing Together Through Simultaneous ProcessingA Conversation with Arilda Surridge, LMFTWhat happens when EMDR moves beyond the ind...

F*ck 'em: Authenticity, Play, and Vulnerability as a Therapist

12 Dec 2025

Contributed by Lukas

In this special “take your learner hat off” episode of Notice That, Bridger and Jen sit down with Jennifer Ann Counseling—EMDR therapist and com...

Tagging Trauma in the Nervous System: EMDR, Somatics, and Polyvagal Wisdom with Dr. Arielle Schwartz

05 Dec 2025

Contributed by Lukas

In this episode of Notice That: An EMDR Podcast, Jen and Bridger sit down with Dr. Arielle Schwartz—somatic psychologist, EMDR therapist, and author...

Neurofeedback + EMDR: A Conversation with Leigh Povia

02 Dec 2025

Contributed by Lukas

In this episode of Notice That, Bridger and Jen sit down with neurofeedback expert Leigh Povia, LCSW, RPT, BCN, founder of Center for Dynamic Growth, ...

The Future of EMDR Tech: Inside WeMind with Founder Sander Kamphuis

20 Nov 2025

Contributed by Lukas

In this episode, we wrap up our series on working memory theory in EMDR by sitting down with Sander, co-founder of WeMind—a digital platform designe...

Bonus Episode! Conference Recap… A Bit Late

04 Nov 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Jen and Bridger finally sit down to share stories and reflections from the 2024 EMDRIA Conference — a few weeks (or months?) later than planned. Fro...

IFS-Informed EMDR: Parts, Art, and the Organic Map of Healing

23 Oct 2025

Contributed by Lukas

In this episode, Bridger and Jen sit down with David Polidi, Bruce Hersey (Syzygy Institute), and Peggy Kolodny (Art Therapy Collective) to explore th...

Bonus Episode: The Mosaic Enneagram

26 Sep 2025

Contributed by Lukas

The Mosaic Enneagram (Limited Series)A five-part companion to a six-month consultation cohort for therapists, this series reimagines the Enneagram as ...

EMDR After Basic Training: A Conversation with Carol Miles

25 Sep 2025

Contributed by Lukas

New EMDR therapists often feel a gap between basic training and confident, real-world practice. In this conversation, Carol Miles, LCSW-BACS (trainer,...

EMDR 2.0: A Conversation with Suzy Matthijssen & Ad de Jongh

16 Sep 2025

Contributed by Lukas

EMDR 2.0: A Conversation with Suzy Matthijssen & Ad de JonghRecorded live at the EMDRIA conference, Bridger and Jen sit down with the developers o...

Why So Many Protocols?: EMDR Modifications and Their Common Themes

28 Aug 2025

Contributed by Lukas

In this episode of Notice That, Bridger and Jen continue the Back to Basics series by exploring the ever-expanding landscape of EMDR protocols. Why ar...

Enactment-Focused EMDR: Reclaiming the Relational Thread

14 Aug 2025

Contributed by Lukas

In this episode of Notice That, Bridger and Jen reconnect after a summer hiatus, weaving personal updates with professional developments that have def...

EMDR Meets Play: Healing Through Curiosity and Connection with Christine Mark-Griffin

18 Jul 2025

Contributed by Lukas

What happens when EMDR and play therapy collide? In this episode, Bridger and Jen sit down with Christine Mark-Griffin—EMDR child therapist, trainer...

EMDR and The Brain's Networks: A Conversation About Modern Neruoscience

03 Jul 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Why Does EMDR Work? A Dive into Network Neuroscience and the Brain’s Healing PotentialEye Movement Desensitization and Reprocessing (EMDR) has trans...

Why Does EMDR Work? Exploring Working Memory, Bilateral Stimulation, and the Science of Change

05 Jun 2025

Contributed by Lukas

EMDR (Eye Movement Desensitization and Reprocessing) has transformed the way clinicians approach trauma. But what exactly makes it so effective? Is it...

Human First: A Conversation with The EMDR Coach, Dana Carretta Stein

22 May 2025

Contributed by Lukas

What If the Therapist Was the Most Powerful Intervention in EMDR?Reclaiming the Human Thread in Trauma TherapyIn the world of EMDR therapy, conversati...

EMDR, Cultural Humility, and Doing Your Own Work: Conversation with Mark Nickerson

08 May 2025

Contributed by Lukas

“To be a culturally competent therapist is to be a human first—curious, aware, humble, and willing to grow.”In this powerful episode of Notice T...

Is EMDR Too Insular?: A Conversation with Derek Farrell

10 Apr 2025

Contributed by Lukas

What happens when a visionary academic, a few decades of lived EMDR experience, and a global perspective meet a pair of U.S.-based EMDR trainers hungr...

What if EMDR Was a Truly Somatic Therapy?

27 Mar 2025

Contributed by Lukas

What If EMDR Was a Fully Somatic Therapy?In the world of EMDR therapy, conversations about somatics are becoming more and more common. But what if som...

Beyond Protocol: EMDR, Case Conceptualization, and the Power of Shared Language

06 Mar 2025

Contributed by Lukas

In the world of EMDR therapy, it's easy to get caught up in technique—perfecting protocols, refining scripts, and ensuring procedural accuracy. But ...

Somatic Experiencing and EMDR: Interview with Amanda Johnson and Rachel Cagle

14 Feb 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Bridging EMDR and Somatic Experiencing: A Conversation with Amanda Johnson & Rachel CagleCurious about how EMDR and Somatic Experiencing can work ...

EMDR with Kids: Interview with Christine Mark-Griffin

06 Feb 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Listen in to hear Jen and Bridger sit down with Kristine Mark-Griffin for a discussion on working with children using EMDR. Christine is the founder o...

Beyond Is Evolving!: Shifts and Refocusing

06 Feb 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Listen in to hear Jen, Melissa, and Bridger talk about their relationship over the past five years in starting Beyond Healing and embracing authentici...

Happy New Year!

16 Jan 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Happy New Year! Listen in to hear Jen and Bridger talk about some super exciting things coming in 2025 including a new podcast setup, conference prese...

Ketamine Assisted EMDR Therapy: Interview with Danielle Ciccone & Michele Topel

09 Jan 2025

Contributed by Lukas

In this exciting episode, we sit down with Danielle Ciccone and Michele Topel, the creators of Ketamine Assisted EMDR Therapy. Combining the transform...

EMDR, Ego-States, and Neurobiology - Interview with Sandra Paulsen

22 Nov 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Listen in to hear Jen and Bridger's conversation with Sandra Paulsen. Yes, THE Sandra Paulsen. The author of some of your favorite books for trauma re...

Ending Therapy: How do You Know?

07 Nov 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Listen in to hear Jen and Bridger's discussion on ending therapy. This conversation is a part of Notice That's Back to Basics series where the hosts w...

Reevaluation and the Three Pronged Protocol

24 Oct 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Listen in to hear Jen and Bridger discuss Reevaluation in the standard 8-phase protocol of EMDR, as well as the three pronged protocol embedded in the...

The EMDR Continuum: Interview with Roy Kiessling

10 Oct 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Listen in to hear Jen and Bridger's conversation with Roy Kiessling about the EMDR processing continuum. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/priva...

EMDR Now, Then, and Tomorrow: Interview with Roy Kiessling

26 Sep 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Listen in to hear Jen and Melissa's conversation with Roy Kiessling. Roy is an EMDRIA-certified trainer and the founder of EMDR Consulting. Trained in...

Unlocking EMDR’s Potential: A Deep Dive with EMDRIA’s Michael Bowers on Building Community, Advocacy, and Excellence

12 Sep 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Listen in to hear Jen and Bridger's conversation with Michael Bowers, the Executive Director of EMDRIA. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privac...

Fly On the Wall: Jen and Bridger's Summer

05 Sep 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Listen in to hear Jen and Bridger reflect on their experience of being therapists when life happens! See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy a...

EMDR for ADHD: Interview with Noelle Lynn

15 Aug 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Listen in to hear an interview with Noelle Lynn, therapist, advocate, and researcher specializing in the treatment of ADHD. To learn more about Noelle...

Recovering from Spiritual Trauma - Interview with Jamie Marich

06 Jul 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Listen in to hear Melissa's conversation with Dr. Jamie Marich on their upcoming book, You Lied to Me About God: A Memoir. If you're interested in fin...

EMDR for Couples and Families

21 May 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Listen in to hear Jen and Bridger reflect on the work they've been doing to support couples and families in their EMDR journey. Throughout this episod...

Installation, Body Scan, and Closure: Phases 5-7 of EMDR Therapy

01 May 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Listen in to hear Melissa and Bridger discuss installation, body scan, and closure within the context of phases 5-7 of EMDR's standard 8-phase protoco...

Phase Four: The Purpose and Function of Desensitization and Reprocessing in EMDR Therapy

01 May 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Listen in to hear Jen and Bridger discuss the purpose and function of desensitization and reprocessing in EMDR Therapy. This conversation is a part of...

Introduction to Phase Four: Desensitization, Reprocessing, Body Scan and Installation

29 Feb 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Listen in to hear Jen, Melissa, and Bridger dive in to a conversation about Phase Four of the standard 8-phase EMDR protocol. This conversation is a p...

Assessment, Cognitions, Sensations, and Meaning in EMDR Therapy

14 Feb 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Listen in as Jen and Bridger pick back up in the Back to Basics season with chapter five of Francine Shapiro's Eye Movement Desensitization and Reproc...

Future Template, Floatback, and Ego State Work in EMDR Therapy: From the EMDR Supplement

05 Feb 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Listen in to hear a special release from the Notice That Podcast. This episode concludes the winter special series on the EMDR Supplement, a 12 hour E...

Assessment, Reprocessing, Closure, and Reevaluation with EMDR: From the EMDR Supplement

25 Jan 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Listen in to hear a special release from the Notice That podcast and The EMDR Supplement. Within this episode, you'll be able to dive into the functio...

Case Conceptualization for EMDR Therapy: From the EMDR Supplement

11 Jan 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Listen in to hear a special release from the Notice That team as they share from The EMDR Supplement, an EMDRIA approved advanced training for EMDR Th...

Resourcing and Preparation for Reprocessing with EMDR Therapy: From the EMDR Supplement

04 Jan 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Listen in to hear the hosts of Notice That as they share material from The EMDR Supplement, an EMDRIA approved Advanced Training designed for EMDR Cer...

What is EMDR?: From the EMDR Supplement

18 Dec 2023

Contributed by Lukas

Listen in to hear a special release from the Notice That team. In this small series of podcast episodes, you'll get access to The EMDR Supplement, an ...

Phase Two: Preparation for Reprocessing Target Memories

01 Dec 2023

Contributed by Lukas

Listen in to hear Jen, Melissa, and Bridger pick back up their discussion of Francine Shapiro's Eye Movement Desensitization and Reprocessing (EMDR) T...

Treatment Planning with EMDR: Where Do We Start?

16 Nov 2023

Contributed by Lukas

Listen in to hear Jen, Melissa, and Bridger pick back up on their journey through Francine Shapiro's Eye Movement Desensitization and Reprocessing (EM...

Fly on the Wall - Life in the EMDR World

07 Nov 2023

Contributed by Lukas

Listen in to hear Melissa, Jen, and Bridger process through their experience of living and practicing in the EMDR world. See Privacy Policy at https:/...

EMDR and Therapeutic Intensity - For the Client and Therapist

07 Nov 2023

Contributed by Lukas

Listen in to hear Melissa and Bridger dive in to discuss therapeutic intensity in EMDR therapy. For the client and therapist both, EMDR offers a windo...

Healing the Fragmented Self

16 Oct 2023

Contributed by Lukas

Listen in to hear Jen and Bridger's conversation on self development and fragmentation as well the healing journey. Building on the fundamental princi...

What is Somatic Integration and Processing?

06 Oct 2023

Contributed by Lukas

Listen in to hear Jen and Melissa present to a small group on the basics of Somatic Integration and Processing (SIP). SIP is an interpersonal neurobio...

Phase One: Getting Grounded in History Taking with EMDR

25 Sep 2023

Contributed by Lukas

Listen in to hear Jen, Melissa, and Bridger pick back up their journey through Francine Shapiro's Eye Movement Desensitization and Reprocessing (EMDR)...

Understanding Targets in EMDR Therapy

20 Jul 2023

Contributed by Lukas

Listen in to hear Melissa and Bridger finish chapter three in Francine Shapiro's Eye Movement Desensitization and Reprocessing Therapy (3rd ed.). See ...

Psychedelics and EMDR Therapy - Interview with Danielle Ciccone

20 Jul 2023

Contributed by Lukas

Listen in to hear Melissa's conversation with Danielle Ciccone as they reflect on their experience of the Psychedelic Science conference of 2023 in De...

Basic Components of EMDR Therapy

23 Jun 2023

Contributed by Lukas

Listen in to hear Jen and Bridger pick back up on the Back to Basics season as they dive into chapter three of Francine Shapiro's Eye Movement Desensi...

When Going Slow Speeds Us Up in EMDR Therapy

13 Jun 2023

Contributed by Lukas

Listen in to hear Jen and Melissa continue working through Francine Shapiro's seminal Eye Movement Desensitization and Reprocessing (EMDR) Therapy: Ba...

Becoming an EMDR Consultant

01 Jun 2023

Contributed by Lukas

Listen in to hear Jen sit down with Angel Hirsch, an EMDRIA approved consultant and therapist from Austin Texas and a close friend to Beyond. For info...

Adaptive Information Processing (AIP) and the Brain - Interview with Caleb Boston & Bridger Falkenstien

18 Apr 2023

Contributed by Lukas

Listen in to hear Jen and Melissa talk with the hosts of the Evidence Based Therapist Podcast as the two podcasts from Think Beyond join forces to div...

EMDR is Not an Intervention

08 Apr 2023

Contributed by Lukas

Listen in to hear the hosts finish up chapter one of Francine Shapiro's seminal text in EMDR Therapy, Eye Movement Desensitization and Reprocessing (E...

The Art and Science of EMDR - Interview with Rotem Brayer

28 Mar 2023

Contributed by Lukas

Listen in to here Bridger's interview with therapist, community developer, and author, Rotem Brayer. This discussion features a sneak peak into Rotem'...

First Time Using EMDR

14 Mar 2023

Contributed by Lukas

Listen in to hear Jen and Bridger talk reflect back on their first experiences as newly trained EMDR clinicians. In this episode, Jen and Bridger also...

Feeling What We Remember - Interview with Bruce Ecker

14 Mar 2023

Contributed by Lukas

What do we do as EMDR Therapists with new research? How should we protect the fidelity of EMDR while honoring and integrating new discoveries from the...

Designed to Heal and Be Well: Adaptive Information Processing & EMDR

02 Mar 2023

Contributed by Lukas

Listen in to hear Melissa and Jen continue their exploration of the first chapter of Francine Shapiro's seminal text, Eye Movement Desensitization and...

Back to Basics - Season Introduction

14 Feb 2023

Contributed by Lukas

Listen in to hear Melissa, Jen, and Bridger's first episode in the new Back to Basics season on Notice That. This episode includes reflection on the f...

Polyvagal Theory and EMDR with Kids - Interview with Jackie Flynn - Winter Repost

26 Jan 2023

Contributed by Lukas

Listen in to hear Jen and Bridger's conversation with Jackie Flynn about using Polyvagal theory and EMDR when working with kids. This episode initiall...

Ego State Work and Interacting with Parts - Winter Repost

10 Jan 2023

Contributed by Lukas

Happy holidays from Beyond! This is a repost of our episode on working with Ego states using EMDR. We are so grateful for your continued listening and...

Dissociation Made Simple - Interview with Jamie Marich

15 Dec 2022

Contributed by Lukas

Listen in to hear Melissa and Jen's conversation with Jamie Marich about dissociation and EMDR. For more information about Jamie's work and how to con...

EMDR with Teens and Families - Interview with Annie Monaco and Nicole Wolasz

01 Dec 2022

Contributed by Lukas

Listen in to hear Jen and Bridger's discussion with Annie Monaco and Nicole Wolasz where they discuss the ins and outs of working with teens and their...

Every Memory Deserves Respect (EMDR) - Interview with Deborah Korn and Michael Baldwin

17 Nov 2022

Contributed by Lukas

Listen in to hear Jen's interview with Deborah Korn and Michael Baldwin as they discuss the relationship between therapist and client in EMDR and talk...

Professional Development and EMDR Practice

28 Oct 2022

Contributed by Lukas

Listen in to hear Melissa and Bridger from Beyond talk about the process of professional development as professional healers and EMDR Therapists. See ...

Fly on the Wall: When Life Happens as a Therapist

04 Oct 2022

Contributed by Lukas

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Interview with Ann Beckley Forest and Annie Monaco

28 Sep 2022

Contributed by Lukas

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Working Somatically with EMDR - Beth Segaloff

13 Sep 2022

Contributed by Lukas

Melissa interviews Beth Segaloff about working somatically in EMDR.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at ht...

Fly on the Wall with Jen & Ryan Savage

30 Aug 2022

Contributed by Lukas

Ryan joins Jen today on a Fly on the Wall episode. They have conversation about what its like to be married to a therapist and all the work they do to...

A-Z Interweaves with Dr. Michelle Morrissey (82)

23 Aug 2022

Contributed by Lukas

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Subjective Business - The Cost of Creativity

16 Aug 2022

Contributed by Lukas

Listen to the owners of Beyond Healing discuss business subjectively. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at...

Introduction to Season 3

02 Aug 2022

Contributed by Lukas

Melissa, Jen, and Bridger introduce Season 3 through their current excitement within EMDR, the Beyond Healing Community, and the EMDR Supplement.See P...

(BONUS) Unedited Version of Fly on the Wall

19 Jul 2022

Contributed by Lukas

Jen and Bridger process their subjective experience with the Fly on the Wall segment, as therapists, and as humans. This is the unedited version - giv...

Fly on the Wall with Jen and Bridger

19 Jul 2022

Contributed by Lukas

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Substance Abuse

05 Jul 2022

Contributed by Lukas

Empowerment Self-Defense w. The Safety Team

02 Jun 2022

Contributed by Lukas

Melissa interviews The Safety Team. A group of women facilitating healing in women with trauma backgrounds through empowered self-defense.See Privacy ...

SandTray Therapy and EMDR with Marshall Lyles

17 May 2022

Contributed by Lukas

Jen and Bridger interview Marshall Lyles, a therapist in Austin, Texas who specializes in expressive therapy and EMDR (zoom recording).See Privacy Pol...

Somatic, Adventure, & EMDR Therapy with Katie Asmus

03 May 2022

Contributed by Lukas

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Fly on the Wall: Melissa (75)

19 Apr 2022

Contributed by Lukas

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Confronting Systemic Racism & Healing Racial Trauma (74)

06 Apr 2022

Contributed by Lukas

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Couples Therapy & EMDR (73)

22 Mar 2022

Contributed by Lukas

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Incorporating Yoga, Movement, and EMDR (72)

08 Mar 2022

Contributed by Lukas

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Sero Stones for EMDR Therapy (Bonus)

02 Mar 2022

Contributed by Lukas

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Attachment Work & EMDR (71)

23 Feb 2022

Contributed by Lukas

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Polyvagal Theory and EMDR w/ Kids – Jackie Flynn (70)

09 Feb 2022

Contributed by Lukas

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Notice That – Season 2 (69)

24 Jan 2022

Contributed by Lukas

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Case Conceptualization with SIP (Bonus)

19 Jan 2022

Contributed by Lukas

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Neurodevelopment & Attachment (68)

06 Jan 2022

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Polyvagal Theory w/ Bridger Falkenstien (Repost)

01 Jan 2022

Contributed by Lukas

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