Chapter 1: What are peptides and why are they trending in the fitness industry?
Unfortunately, I love the health and fitness industry, but I also fucking hate it.
There are people taking advantage of people who want a quick fix. They want to feel good and I get it.
And unfortunately, they prey on your insecurities. Please don't let anyone push anything onto you. If you have a personal trainer and they are telling you to do any kind of peptide, I would be running for the hills. You're not going to look lean and toned. You're just going to be skinny. Everyone on TikTok is a peptide final boss.
For fuck's sakes, if you can't even eat a vegetable, why are you going to then do this?
Welcome back to the Oilers Talk podcast. I'm Kate. And I'm Gemma, a no BS space for the women who want more.
Today, we have a bit of a rando off the cuff. You guys have been asking us lots of questions about this topic, and it is going to be an episode about peptides. Who should be using them? What do we think about them? And anything else that we essentially want to weigh in on this topic?
Yeah. And I'm excited to talk about this because you guys have been asking us in the comment section to talk about this. And I also just feel like as two people who have worked in the fitness industry for over eight years, we want to just share the things that are going to help you as much as possible. We're not judgmental. We don't We're not coming at this as like right or wrong.
We're coming at this to help guide you to make lifestyle changes and to get the results that you want. And we just want to share our opinion so far, the questions our clients have been asking us, and also just take away the stigma of this topic because I know it's a bit tricky to talk about online.
Yeah, I think as well when we speak about peptides throughout today, there's kind of like two baskets of peptides I'm going to say that we are speaking about. We have obviously like our weight loss drugs, so your GLP-1s, your Ozempic, Wigavo.
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Chapter 2: Who should consider using peptides for weight loss?
So I have no negative opinion on that. I think like whatever, I always think of like health and fitness as having a allied health people, whether it be like a physio, a doctor, a psychologist, and then a personal trainer, like we're all working towards helping the human with whatever goals that it is that you have. So I feel indifferent about it.
I think that the positive is that there's more access to people being able to get down to a healthy weight range for those that are qualified or, you accessibility is going to allow that to happen. People have potentially struggled with the other interventions that they've tried.
And I also think that, yeah, I think my first thought is literally just people that are in a really high risk range are going to be able to get out of that range quicker. And then my hope would be that through the things that Kate and I speak about, you can maintain that, keep the momentum going and improve the quality of your life.
Agree. You took the words right out of my mouth, bestie. I'm also the same. I am literally cert three and four qualified, meaning it's none of my fucking business. And if you have a personal trainer or you've hired an online coach and they are telling you to do any kind of peptide, I would be running for the hills.
Because a very big thing that I focus on, and Jem, I know you do the same, is practicing inside of our scope. So if I have a client who has come to me and they have been prescribed by a doctor to use a weight loss drug, a GLP-1 or Zempik, et cetera, go for it. I actually think that if you are the person who falls into the category that potentially you are at a higher risk,
Why would you not want to use that to help kickstart the journey? Now, where I draw the line is relying on these drugs as the only long-term solution because they are not a long-term solution. They are a short-term solution to essentially, like what I said, kickstart you in the right direction. And then as the person who is taking that drug or that peptide,
you need to be really, really mindful that you are also building sustainable habits and lifestyle changes around that. Because once you come off this, you're going to have to have the foundations, the house, the slab, the concrete that we always speak about, which is having some kind of movement goal.
making sure you're drinking enough water, sleeping eight hours, managing your stress levels, following some kind of training program, whichever one you want to do. We prefer weight training. So we would say at least three days a week and building those foundational habits so you can sustain that weight loss forever, because that's a very big part of the picture.
It's like, yes, we want to lose that additional weight, which with a GLP-1, that's going to help kickstart that, but we need to learn how to sustain that. And that's when the lifestyle and the habits and the behaviors, are very important in my opinion.
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Chapter 3: What are the different types of peptides available?
And my issue is that not everyone qualifies or needs it. You need to go through the process to see if you are. And two, it's really we're missing the lifestyle part that Kate spoke about. We're missing the long-term vision because say if you're paying, you know, $300 to $500 AUD a month, which I think that's on average what it costs, right? It's like if you're paying that for a month –
Do you want to do that for the rest of your life or do you want to do that with the right guidance and then know what to do to maintain it? Like that's what I can back. So I really have an issue with these personal trainers or even worse. Not even. Honestly worse. Just a person who's done it personally and then thinks that they have the credibility to speak about
like I'm all for, I did this, this is what worked for me. Fine. I can listen to that. I can't listen to this is what you should do because it worked for me. There is so much risk there. And it really upsets me because you're putting people at risk. You're taking advantage of people who want help and you're not doing it for the goodness of, you know, people's wellbeing.
Because if you were, you would be focusing on the lifestyle interventions.
The things that last forever.
The things that actually last forever.
Amen.
So I am so sick of seeing that online. I know that we're not the only ones because we're getting so many questions. So it's everywhere. It's in Reels. It's in TikToks. It's conversations we're hearing. And we'll get into it in a second. But there's a whole range of different people that are taking them at the moment. And I really want to talk to...
the lifestyle things that are going to help that range of people so they don't just get stuck.
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Chapter 4: How do unregulated peptides impact health and wellness?
And like you said, you can get things online from somewhere quote unquote dodgy, or you can go to like a compounding chemist is like, there's a, uh, spectrum of like how things can be attained. But the issue that I have is when we have this marketing, which is really pushy, we're not talking about like when you go to a doctor's or if something's researched and
It's not advertised because there's advertising guidelines, like even with cosmetics and things like injectables, right? Like in Australia, there's all of these guidelines around how you can market that. And the reason I want to use that example is because that's there from the ethical point of view of like you can't post testimonials of.
Yeah.
cosmetics because you don't want to bias people as not showing the risks. And that's the point I want to make with peptides is, yes, there could be all of this upside. We're not denying that, but we're also not giving the fair weight of the risk. And when I hear about risk, personally, I've heard people say gallbladder removal is a really common thing.
Gastro, gastrointestinal, which is actually from and I would need to do a lot more research on this. So don't take this for gospel guys, but a lot of cases are starting to come out because of the lack of research, even with a lot of GLP ones around causing gastro gastro nidus. I can't pronounce that gastro gastro nidus, something along those lines. Um, Yeah. So you do need to be mindful of that.
Yeah. So I just think that what my issue is, like the same way with marketing other things that are more heavily regulated and we have to show the full spectrum of risk. I think that that is what is really missing at the moment. And no, not everyone's going to have to get their gallbladder removed.
Not everyone's going to have negative side effects, but we really need to have that fair weight of that. And that's why, you know, going to credible sources and that's why having the intervention of people that evidence-based and have your best interests at heart is really, really integral for your longevity. Because if we only think short-sighted, yes, short-sighted, we get whatever result is.
But what is the long-term implication of not improving your lifestyle as coinciding whatever changes you're making? It's not going to be good.
Yeah. Yeah. And I think as well, and I'm going to speak to the people who don't medically need any kind of intervention. Again, I'm speaking to the people who do not medically need any intervention. If that is not you, this is not directed at you. Okay. Okay. Okay. Moving on.
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Chapter 5: What are the risks associated with using weight loss peptides?
Am I not drinking enough? Am I not sleeping enough? Am I not hitting my step goal and my movement goal and managing my stress? All of that stuff is going to get you the result without needing any of this kind of intervention. But if you can't even do that, for fuck's sakes, if you can't even eat a vegetable, Why are you going to then do this? Yeah. Doesn't make any sense to me at all.
And I really think if you're worried about your health and you're doing it from a health perspective, tick all the boxes I just said, because that is actually worrying about your health, not going on something that is unregulated and not tested enough at this current point in time.
Yeah. And I kind of want to give a case study because we're speaking to lots of people. I've got examples that I can use that I think will be helpful to our listeners. So person one, I'm not going to use names, but just a client who has been prescribed and has said, while I'm on this, I want to get stronger and I want to learn what to do to maintain the results. Person two is
I, it's like, you know, mutual friend, people I'm hearing who are just like not strength training, doing it because they're hearing everyone do it and are struggling with like not feeling like they're very toned and they're just feeling very weak. Like these are two real people that I'm sure we could both speak to every day. And all I'm saying is person one is
is going to get the result that she wants and she's going to know how to maintain it. And she's not going to have to rely on that thing long term because that foundation is going to be really strong. And I love that.
And I think that's what we should be aiming for as much as possible, because the thing that is really important is if you just take something that makes you lose rapid weight loss and whether you just do rapid weight loss by being on a calorie deficit or rapid weight loss because of an appetite suppressant,
If you do not eat an adequate amount of protein and if you do not resistance train, you will lose bone mineral density. And that is going to mean that you're at a higher fracture risk. One, we don't want that. We don't want to be frail. We want to feel strong. But two, you're not going to look lean and toned. You're just going to be skinny. And all of this aside, I have gone through that.
I did my health and fitness at the start. I did double sessions. I did calorie deficits. I just got skinny. I didn't like how I looked. Kate and I both... love resistance training, eating a high protein diet. I got there eventually, but there's a reason for that because for most of us, and if that's not your goal, then this conversation is not for you.
But if you do want to feel strong, if you want to feel capable, if you want to feel confident, if you want muscle tone, whatever you're doing, do it alongside a structured resistance training plan and a high protein diet. And I promise you will feel better and you will get better results long-term.
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Chapter 6: Why is building sustainable habits important for long-term success?
Was there anything else you wanted to add? The only other thing I wanted to say was like, we say this all the time. The long road is the only road and also doing it in a way that is sustainable as much as it's slower and sometimes it's unsexy and it's boring and it's shit and it's all the things.
You are going to get to the end of that journey and you are going to be so proud of yourself because you have shown to yourself not only do you have more physical strength, but you also have more mental strength, more resilience to show up and do hard things, not only in the gym, not only with your health, but in every other avenue of your life.
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