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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
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That's how you build a legacy, Legacy Heating and Cooling. John, how are you? I'm great, Bob. How are you? Good. Look, we know you, and I've already spoken to Pierre today, obviously, Elliot yesterday, Frank the day before. Ongoing in terms of the investigation with Mike Babcock with the National Hockey League. Anything from your end that you've heard sort of through the grapevine?
No. You know, the group of people they're going to talk to, obviously former players and players and Blue Jackets management people. It is an ongoing process and I don't think there's a timeline yet.
Okay. Let's do this because something that's right in your proverbial bailiwick is knowing about television. How significant is it that Rodgers put out a release yesterday morning and said that Hockey Night CBC will no longer be part of the ongoing relationship carrying forward with NHL hockey on Rodgers? What's your take on that?
I'm not surprised. I think that when the original deal 12 years ago was signed, that we were going to get to this point. We just didn't know when.
What it does mean right now is that, you know, those four famous words in this country, hockey night in Canada, will not be used on a television show starting next season, which is sad, disappointing for a few of us that have made it part of our business life. So that's one thing.
The other concern would be that there are going to be regions of the country that either don't get Sportsnet or don't get City TV and will not be able to watch hockey on Saturday nights. There will be hockey on Saturday nights next year, Bob. It will be under the NHL on Sportsnet banner. It will be on their... I'm just trying to think. One, two, three, four, five, six channels. Yes.
And it will also be on City. But if you don't have cable TV and you don't have access to City TV, then you're out of luck.
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Chapter 2: What is the significance of the ongoing investigation with Mike Babcock?
I don't know if people, you know, with how crazy and connected the world is today, people realize how impactful it is. This is like a 90-year run with CBC, isn't it?
90 years on radio and television, 74 on television. Yes. So you bring up a really good point. And from purely a numbers perspective, Rogers owned properties are probably in nine to nine and a half million homes in our country. And the CBC is in 13 million homes. Right. So there is a difference in the coverage ratio. particularly in the outer regions of the country.
And I'm not trying to be negative, but the CBC has a mandate to give everybody television. And that's what they have done over the years and with repeaters throughout the country. I grew up in a small town in the Okanagan with one of those repeaters. And we had one TV channel. But, you know, that's a long time ago. And really, in many ways, Bob, this could have happened 12 years ago.
They didn't have to do a deal with the CBC, Rogers. but it softened the blow in putting Hockey Night in Canada back on, and here we are 12 years later, and I don't think there's near the outcry today as there would have been 12 years ago. So in many ways, what Rodgers did by perpetuating Saturday night hockey on CBC is they softened the blow yesterday and today, and they'll be fine.
You know, if you're an Oiler fan and you live in Edmonton and you watch Sportsnet, on the shows that you're on, you know, you're going to watch everything normal. You're not going to notice, you're not going to notice one difference because you're going to get Saturday Night Hockey on Sportsnet and life will go on.
So was CBC, like, I mean, certainly there was a time when you were the executive producer of Hockey Night, right? You were the executive producer, were you not? For a while, or a senior producer? Oh, yeah. No, executive producer. It was a huge... Was cash call, was it not, for the CBC back in the day?
Almost 50% of the network's profit was from Hockey Night in Canada. Really? So it financed a lot of the news department. It financed a lot of... TV shows, The Nature of Things, Fifth Estate, those types of shows that the CBC did and have done for so many years were financed by Hockey Night in Canada.
By the way, do you recall who was in The Nature of Things? Nudge, Nudge, Wink, Wink?
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Chapter 3: How has the relationship between Rogers and the NHL changed?
Wasn't it our pal David Suzuki? Oh, yeah. Got an honorary degree from the University of Alberta during the time that Rachel Notley was premier here in this province. And then subsequently, it was an amazing thing.
But several of the largest contributors to the University of Alberta, all of a sudden, the guys that go out there and try to get money in terms of endowments, found that some of the biggest companies in the province of Alberta said, no, we're not going to continue. It's amazing how that happens, right? You mean there's... Anyways, it's...
Which is not to say, I've often said this about Rachel Notley. Very smart woman. Just, I think for some people, maybe was captaining the wrong team. That happens sometimes. And I'm going to upset the lefties when I say that, but there's times I upset the righties too. Like when we talk about our friend Mark from Ottawa, that's a big Oilers fan, right? Now, Roger, what show am I on?
You're on Oilers now. The team is called the Edmonton Oilers. The show is called We're in Oil Country. The show is called Oilers Now. Maybe we need to support oil and gas. So just so everybody's clear, I would want you clear on this. I would not want anybody to have any perspective on me that was not true. I support oil and gas. You don't have to support oil and gas. I do. Okay? So there you go.
And if you don't like it, You know what? You don't like it.
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Chapter 4: What impact does losing Hockey Night in Canada have on viewers?
It's okay. We are allowed to have a little bit of disagreement in life, are we not?
That's the only way things improve is a little bit of sandpaper. Did you? I love sandpaper.
Yeah. Well, we used to play that Dave Mason song once in a while. He just passed away, by the way. We just disagree when you used to come in. John Shannon for Legacy Heating and Cooling. Whether it's heating or cooling you need, get it with no payments or no interest for one year. That's how you build a legacy. Legacy Heating and Cooling.
John, do you have a specific favorite CBC memory or story about, you know, and I'm not talking about the Dave Hodge throwing the pencil up in the air. Yeah.
I was actually gone the first time from the network by then, and then subsequently, 20 minutes after Hodge flipped the pen, I offered him a job. So that's my...
so that's that's that's my version of that's my that's my version of uh of that saturday night in february of 1987. the other one i i think for me um bob there there's there there would be a couple i do put the oilers first cup up there you know we had gone to edmonton in 1979 to produce all the oiler games And we got accepted by the club and by Glenn and his staff.
And so it was a pretty, pretty emotional night when the Oilers beat the Islanders. in game five. That would be near the top of the list. My first Stanley Cup final. I was 23 years old and producing Hockey Night in Canada. And Bob Nystrom tipped the puck into the net in overtime in game six against the Flyers.
And it just so happened that the play-by-play man for Hockey Night that night was the great Jim Robson. And I had grown up in the interior of British Columbia and my idol was Jim Robson. So he and I worked together that Stanley Cup final. So those are types of things. Those are a long time ago now, Bob. You know, that's 46 years ago for the Islanders and what, 42 for the Oilers' first cup.
But they are vivid in my mind. 87 was a spectacular time for me. And the Oilers winning in seven games. Was that one on Hockey Night or was that one on? It was on both Hockey Night and Global. And then when I went back, I'll tell you what, when I went back in 94, there's two generations now that think Hockey Night in Canada has always been a doubleheader. That doubleheader we started in 1995.
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Chapter 5: How does the CBC's coverage compare to Rogers in terms of reach?
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