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Chapter 1: What insights does Brian Burke share from the OHL Draft?
Hey, it's Bob Stauffer. I just wanted to let you know that you can listen to Oilers Now ad-free on Amazon Music, included with Prime. Just before we go to Mr. Burke, who is at the OHL draft, I want to get to this text on the Ashley Fine Flores text line. Kyle says, Bob, any chance for Daryl Sutter if... Mike Babcock's situation goes south.
He adds Sutter had some of the best expected goals in his L.A. and Calgary seasons. Last nine seasons, all top nine five-on-five expected goals with over half the years in the top four. His Calgary stint was second in the league over three years in five-on-five expected goals from Kyle. Kyle, I mean, I have no idea at the, you know, what's going on.
First of all, the league's got to do their investigation on Mike Babcock. And I probably have a more positive view of Mike than most of you. But what I will tell you is I have done several events with Daryl Sutter in the Wainwright-Irma area over the last three or four years. it's hard not to be a big fan of Daryl Sutter.
In fact, I'll go as far as to say that if I had grown up in Viking or Irma back in the, uh, you know, as a teenager in the early eighties, uh, early to mid, uh, 1980s, I think I would have at least been able to play in the WHL because there's something about the people there and the character that they have.
Chapter 2: How does Brian Burke view Daryl Sutter's coaching abilities?
And, uh, Daryl is a good guy to deal with, and he's got a unique family challenge that he's never seen as a challenge. So I'm a fan. I'd say that about Daryl Sutter. Let's go off to the River Creek Resort and Casino Hotline. Brian Burke brought to you by Ultrashine. Commercial cleaning done smarter.
Request your free cleaning quote today by visiting Ultrashine.com, and we have them at the OHL Draft on the floor. Hello, Brian. How are you doing?
Good. Hi, Bob. I apologize for the noise. It was quiet when you called.
Yeah.
Chapter 3: What challenges do scouts face when evaluating younger players?
Hey, let me ask you this. Are you specifically assisting one team or are you there as a honored guest? What brings you to the OHL draft?
I am here as a volunteer on behalf of Spencer Hyman, Zach's brother. Well, I'm here helping out, but not doing much. Spencer has done a good job. Pardon me? I just have to work my ass off at the draft. I just stand around.
Spencer has done a good job. He's a rising star. He's a potential manager. Very smart guy. That Brantford team, quite unlucky, frankly, not to have come out of the OHL. It didn't matter because Kitchener won the Memorial Cup anyways.
Chapter 4: How does the NHL draft process differ from other sports like the NFL?
But different kid, and this is a different draft because they have a midget draft in Ontario as opposed to a Bantam draft in Canada. 16 versus 14. Do you think that gives you a better chance to evaluate the players because they're a little older, Brian?
When I studied the NFL, when I worked in the NHL, the NFL is drafting 23-year-olds mostly, 22-some. A lot of guys redshirt and they're 23. Their prediction rates aren't that much higher than ours. It's a really hard thing to do even with more time, but Certainly, it's a fun time. I love it.
Yeah, well, I know you live for it. You executed one of the greatest draft stories of all time. There's lots going on. I want to ask you about Darnell Nurse because I know you've always liked Darnell's game. Elliott Friedman reporting yesterday with Mark Spector. that the nurse camp has its time, its requested training.
Chapter 5: What is Brian Burke's perspective on player criticism in the NHL?
He's been here a long time. And at times, I think he's been a bit of a whipping boy in the market. Do you think people maybe need to be careful of how hard they push at times when they criticize players? Or is it warranted?
Well, I think that I would prefer the criticism is muted somewhat. Social media is a problem. It's not the regular media. It's social media. I think this, I think Darnell Nurse has been a good oiler. He's a great kid. He's played well. He skates well. He's overpaid, which is never the player's fault. That's always our fault. When a player's overpaid, it's never his fault.
Chapter 6: How does social media impact player reputation in the NHL?
What's he supposed to say? No, I don't want the money. So they'll be able to move him. He skates well. He's a great kid. He's tough. They'll be able to move him and have to move some money back to him.
Would it be more beneficial for him, do you think, to maybe play? He spent his whole career in the Western Conference, maybe in the East and maybe in a non-Canadian market, do you think?
Well, I think you go where you can, not where you... I think it's dangerous to think I want to go to a certain place. Very few players have that kind of leverage. But, yeah, if I were saying generically, which aren't elders, be better off in a smaller market, non-Canadian market, yes.
Brian, what do you do if, and I don't know how often you had to deal with this, Brian Burke for Ultrashine at the OHL Draft. Let's say the player and the agent initially gives you three teams.
Chapter 7: What are Brian Burke's thoughts on Mike Babcock as a coach?
How do you get that player to potentially open it up to, say, five, six, or seven teams? How much of a battle is that?
I think if you say I can't move them. This happened to me with Thomas Coverley. Thomas Coverley, I said, I want to list the teams.
homeless copper ladies agent gave me one team which was boston and i said i think there might be a fit with boston but if i don't get a deal i like in the next day i'm going to call you back then i want five more teams so it has been done it can't be done i made the deal for joe colborn from the berlins and i was happy with that deal but um no it's uh it's a uh
It's a situation where if you ask for too much, you're going to get stuck. So what they're doing in Detroit makes sense. Ask for a longer list. Get at least four or five teams.
Are you surprised about the Dylan Larkin trade request, Brian?
Yes, I caught me completely by surprise. I don't know Dylan. I know him to say hello to. I really like him as a player.
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Chapter 8: How do player trades affect team dynamics and player morale?
But again, once it's out, whatever it wants to train, people are offering to stress fights. The best way to get trained is to ask quietly and professionally.
Yeah. Well, and in fairness, Darnell's name has been out there a bit over the last year. Brian Burke for our friends at Ultrashine. Brian, Darren Drager reporting on Monday. The Oilers looking into the potential of Mike Babcock. I'm going to tell you right now, I said point blank. From ownership to management to the players, the Oilers were on board with Mike Babcock.
Subsequent reports to that from Mark Spector on Wednesday, Ryan Rashog on Thursday, saying how involved and engaged the Oilers' leadership core was in a desire for Mike Babcock. Let's not forget Zach Hyman. and Kasperi Kapanen both played for Mike Babcock. Kapanen played his best hockey for Mike Babcock. What are your thoughts on Mike Babcock as a coach?
Well, I'm looking at his son. He's about 20 feet away from me. Mike Babcock Jr. has just hired a coach in Brantford. Right. So I get along fine with Mike. It's very well publicized that I was not. When I got hired in Anaheim, Mike Babcock was the coach of the Anaheim Ducks, Mighty Ducks at the time, and he was not my coach. I didn't fire him.
I told him, I said, look, I don't see the real good sense between us. So I said, you ought to make your deal with Kenny Holland and get to each other. That's how Mike got to Detroit. Actually, a lot of just fine with Mike.
So you think he's a solid coach? And does it matter that the Oilers engage the players in this process, given that Edmonton's got some of the biggest players in the game?
Brian. If you don't think the players have always had a lot to say about who goes to the team, please consult with our stars, with Bobby Park, with the players. He was called in and asked questions about stuff. Star players have always ā I've always talked to my stars. Before I made a big deal, I talked to Messier. I talked to Trevor Linden. I talked to Marcus Naslin. I talked to Teemu.
I talked to Scott Niemeyer. That's not new. It's much more public. And the fact that they want a guy who has accountability and high demand ā That's not all bad. I heard the Canadian Olympic team, that's the same thing. They didn't want their Kumbaya coach.
They didn't want a Kumbaya coach. Interesting stuff. Okay, I know you're into rugby. Are you a fan of soccer as well, Brian? No. You know what the difference is between rugby and soccer?
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