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Chapter 1: What personal struggles does Will Young share about his past?
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Today I am with the wonderful Will Young. I'm so pleased you're here, mate.
We never met. We haven't met, have we?
We have met once. Oh no, remind me. And I've got a story about it. Was I horrible? No, you were absolutely fantastic. I went through a horrible stage. Why I've been looking forward to meeting you again so much is I was in the depths of addiction at the time and I was doing the red carpet for the Brits.
You were doing interviews?
I was doing interviews, yeah. Outside?
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Chapter 2: How did Will Young's experiences shape his view on trauma and shame?
Yeah, outside. And you came up... Were you doing them on your own? I was on my own, yeah. Yeah, and it was the first time I'd ever done anything like that on my own. Probably like 2009? Yeah, maybe, no, maybe 2007? Seven. 2007. Yeah. 2007. And I was outside and I was nervous and I was a bit pissed. You came up and I was kind of in a bit of a...
And you just whispered in my ear, you've got lots of hair in your ear. The camera was here and I just had my hair cut. And I had all hair.
Chapter 3: What is dissociation and how did it affect Will Young?
And you'd noticed it. And you told me how I felt suddenly looked after by somebody. It was so nice. Because I felt like everyone was just wanting something from me. No one had noticed it. No one noticed it. I had all hair. And there was so much of it.
And the camera was right there. And you whispered it in my ear, subtly. And I was like, thank you so much. So it was such a nice thing. So it's a little thing. But I was like, you're a gem.
Yeah.
Chapter 4: How does Internal Family Systems (IFS) therapy aid in healing?
Oh, that's sweet. And so I've always had this very fond, warm feeling of you. Oh, thank you.
I mean, I had a little phase of being a bit of a dick, but it only lasted a year. So when people say we've met, I'm like, was it in my... I call it my Madonna year. Your Madonna year? When was that? What year was that? I think I was at my worst around 2006. Right. Yeah, so I think the job had got to me and I just wasn't trusting anyone. Yeah. Because as you know, people will lie. Yeah, yeah.
I can give a great example of this, by the way.
Chapter 5: What role does kindness play in recovery according to Will Young?
Please do. Of lying. So I remember doing the show, you know, who cares, doesn't matter what it was. And they were like, we're going to do a confetti drop. And I was like... I don't know if I want a confetti. No, snow. It was for Christmas. And I was like, I've been doing the job. This was not that long ago, maybe five years ago. So I've been doing it a while. Yeah.
And they were like, we'll do a snow drop. And I was like, do you mind if I don't have, maybe the snow could fall behind me or in front of me? Because sometimes it gets in your throat, you know, when you're singing.
Chapter 6: How does Will Young describe his journey through addiction?
They were like, no problem. We'll make a mark. And I came out to do the live show. Because I know that people lie, they'd moved the mark back to where the snow was going to drop. Oh, man. So I stepped backwards, and the snow dropped exactly where they put the mark. Oh, my God. But that's what you're dealing with. Yeah, yeah. How bad is that? That's so bad. And you're singing.
And you're singing, and it's live. And I thought, I knew they would have just not cared. Yeah, yeah.
Chapter 7: What insights does Will Young offer about the music industry?
Because people don't care. Why do they care? A little benefit falls on him. It doesn't matter. It's entertainment. Yeah. Oh, man. I think it kind of got to me a bit. So I stopped trusting and became a bit of a sort of, I was a bit on the attack for a bit. Right. But then I realised it was just making me unhappy.
How did that kind of materialise for you? I would be rude to people.
Really? Yeah, because I thought I had a thing about being too nice.
Chapter 8: How does Will Young view the importance of self-acceptance and apologies?
I thought, well, I'm just being too nice. So people are walking over me. You were kind of known as being a really lovely bloke. Yeah. And I am a really lovely bloke. Yes, you are. But I think I took it as weakness. So now I know that I'm really lovely, but I'm also really strong. And I have really good boundaries. So I can be very firm, but also still very kind at the same time.
Like a good parent. Yeah, yeah, yeah. A good parent to yourself. That's a really good way to look at it. And like to others. So I think because I got this nice and I had so much shame, I kind of hated myself. And I thought, well, you're just too nice. People are walking over you. I'd see lots of other examples of people just being assholes. Yeah. Oh, you need to be more of an asshole.
But really... That I went too far the other way. Right. Yeah.
And then that feeds into the shame.
Then it feeds into the shame.
Yeah.
And I just was really unhappy. Oh, man.
Yeah, yeah.
I'm sorry that happened. It was a good lesson.
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