Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
All right, everybody. Welcome to Otherworld. I'm your host, Jack Wagner. This is a special bonus episode today brought to you by our friends over at A24 and the new horror movie, Undertone, directed by Ian Tuison, which is in theaters right now. If you haven't heard of this movie, Undertone is a new film about a popular podcast host,
I'm a paranormal podcast host, I should say, who becomes haunted by terrifying, mysterious recordings, which sounds very familiar to me, extremely familiar, which I guess it makes sense why we're here today talking about this. And to do so, I am joined by the entire Otherworld team, Theo, Theo, Haley, and Nikki, to discuss our own real experiences doing this job. How are you guys?
Glad to have you here on your own show. Welcome. Hello. I'm doing great. Hello. What's up? So like I said, this movie, Undertone, is about a paranormal podcast. Obviously, this is something that we do in real life for our jobs.
Chapter 2: What is the new horror movie 'Undertone' about?
We've been doing it for quite some time at this point. So in this episode, we're here to give everybody a little behind-the-scenes look into what it's like for us making this show. Yeah, first thing I want to do is, before we talk about our own experiences... What did you guys think of this movie purely from an audio perspective? How would we rate this person's gear setup?
Mostly I was thinking, wow, these iPhone recordings are extremely stereo. Some of the background sounds like the... Are we allowed to spoil it? No. You're not allowed to spoil the movie. There's some thumping. It's not a spoiler that there's haunted sounds. They're listening to recordings, right? They have so much more detail to them than the voices. I was like, that's crazy. Well, we don't know.
I mean, Theo, you don't know what the mystery recordings were recorded on. You're assuming it was an iPhone. Yeah, just because, I don't know. It sounds like that to me. Yeah. They could have been recording on an $80,000 mic, a ribbon microphone. In a world where everyone has their own podcast and everyone has a really nice microphone at their disposal, this is what would happen, I think.
Yeah, maybe it was recorded by an audiophile. Honestly, the audio setup... This is your time to shine, Theo.
underrated setup in my opinion used widely but underrated because a lot of engineers will make fun of you for having a Focusrite but it's kind of like it's kind of like being a guitar player you know what I mean like it's the people's instrument the Focusrite Scarlett is the people's audio interface yeah I clocked that right away.
She's using a Focusrite Scarlett Solo third generation USB audio interface. I have one of those myself. I think all of us do. I have two Scarlets. I don't know what you're talking about. It's okay. You guys don't need to know what this is. You don't need to know. Consider yourself lucky that you don't know what that is. I think I've seen it before.
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Chapter 3: How do the Otherworld team members relate to the paranormal themes?
They're very popular because they work pretty good. And they're not very expensive. And people who talk shit about them usually have some type of complex about audio quality. I noticed she was using, I think, a Rode PSA1 swivel mount studio boom arm for her mic. I could not ID the mic. Did either of you get an ID on the mic? No. Yeah. I knew it. Yeah, it's the RE-20, the Electro-Voice RE-20.
It's a broadcast mic that was known professionally as the donkey dick mic. I've seen some almost right-wing cultural critics refer to it as too phallic. Really? Men shouldn't use it because it's too phallic. Where is this audio discourse taking place? You guys are on a different side of the internet than me.
It's like a classic because I've done work for public radio and that's like an old school radio mic. It's a good microphone. Yeah. I'm just imagining the people at A24 hearing this right now and hearing the Theos say that the mic is a right-wing coded phallic mic. No, it's anti-right-wing. Oh, it's anti-right-wing.
People don't want to use it because they don't want to put something that looks like a penis near their mouth, even though almost every microphone ever made is phallic. That didn't come to mind when I saw it. Well, you're a healthy person. You're not like a man with a problem. You also didn't see it and immediately recognize the microphone because you are mentally healthy.
I just saw a microphone. Okay. So we're here in this episode to discuss our own experiences doing the real life version of this job. The job that this movie is about. We all work on this paranormal podcast. That's probably the number one thing I get asked about is like, do you get scared making the show? What is it like making the show?
I mean, I assume you guys are getting asked these same questions, right? Yeah. Has anything frightened you? Given you chills?
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Chapter 4: What are the audio production insights discussed in the episode?
Has there been a bump in the night? I mean, I was, I guess I was talking to Jack about this yesterday. But like people often send in videos or like audio recordings and sometimes it's like no explanation for it. They're just like, this was crazy. And then I have to listen to it or watch it. I'm like covering the screen with my hand just in case because I don't know what it can be.
Yeah, I was going to say, your job is scary in its own way, Nikki, because you are reading everything that comes in. Yeah. And yeah, opening mysterious files for a number of reasons is frightening. You don't know what's going to be on there. No. It could be anything. It could be truly anything. I have to imagine, as a woman, opening a mysterious file sent from a man in general is a...
It's frightening. Yeah. From anyone. From anyone. But from a stranger. Yeah. Most of the time they're videos, which is, I guess, worse than just an audio recording. But there are some videos people send where I'm just like, that is kind of weird. Like, I don't know. Have you seen any scary ones?
I think there was one that I sent in like the Discord group chat where it was like these boys and it was like a Snapchat video. Do you remember this? Oh, yeah. In the thing in the back of the car or something? Yes. Yeah. But I feel like they just made that themselves. That's the thing. I don't know.
With video and any kind of, like, evidence with the paranormal, especially in the age of AI, social media being incentivized now for, like, people to make money on views. Yeah. When you see something that's really convincing, you kind of automatically jump to, like, okay, well, this must be fake. The better quality it is, the more you think it's not real.
If it's so bad that you don't think it's fake, then it's probably not convincing. So it has, like, this... reverse effect, you know? Wait, Theo, I have a question, because there's a point in the movie where He's like, okay, there's something weird in the audio here. There's another layer of audio under the initial layer. And I don't even know what that would mean or look like.
Do you know what I'm talking about? I feel like you could maybe see that in a spectrogram. Yeah, you would be able to see that in a spectrogram. But what does that even mean? There's another layer. There's another voice. Theoretically, if it was in a spectrogram and there was two voices and they were different registers, you'd be able to see them individually better. along the timeline.
I'll take this opportunity to compliment you. You've been able to work miracles on some of our most distorted files in the past. I've been shocked at the stuff you've been able to do to it. I'm not even a pro-isotope user. I know people who can do way more than me. Can I have their email, phone number? No, actually. Are they looking for work? I'm not that close with them.
I've had to use the Spectrogram. We had an episode where we got sent almost like a voice recorder that would be used in Ghost Adventures or something. I forget which episode it was, but I had to clean those files up. That was Hunter Prisk. Yeah, and that was probably an episode in the show that actually made me scared because there was one that I was listening to by myself.
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Chapter 5: How does the team handle scary content in their podcast?
But yeah, if there was something you legitimately thought was too evil, is that what you're saying? Yeah, like if we got something and I would just... I mean, that happens. That's literally happened. Like, I mean, even just parts of stories that we've edited out recently. I know we cut details out of one that was just like describing something too horrible.
Where I was like, nobody needs to hear this. You know, that's happened before. Mm-hmm. Have there been emails that have freaked you out? I mean, so you read all of them. You read everything that comes in. And I know everybody kind of dives in there, but you're the main person reading it. Are there ones that have like freaked you out at all?
The most recent thing that scared me was the interview that Haley and I did. It was the episode that was going to come out last week, but we decided not to do it. Oh yeah, that was horrifying. That was the first thing in a while that really did impact me. Yeah, that was horrifying. The ones that have... freaked me out are ones that people either stopped responding to us.
Um, or like, there's been a couple where like a person is backed out cause they've been scared. Yeah. I mean, there is this one, we're interviewing a lady from like Sweden or something about her brother who was like worshiping. Oh my God. Something demonic and like weird stuff happening with him. And she kind of like, even the interview was weird. She cut it short. Yeah.
said she would finish it later, but she just kind of kept dodging us. And that was like an abrupt ending given the circumstances. Like she kind of seemed freaked out. That one's really bothered me. I mean, we've been continuously trying to get this person to come back. That unfortunately happens a good amount where somebody ghosts us.
if you're listening to this and you're a person who has done that, please come back. We'd love to interview you. But yeah, it does make it. Those are the stories that like stick, because also like there are, there are instances, like all of the stories that stick with me the most are honestly the ones that, We never got to interview.
And like you were mentioning earlier that like not Area 51, Area X. I don't know. I can't remember what it was, but like. It was something like that. Yeah.
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Chapter 6: What experiences have the team members had with listener submissions?
We don't want to reveal too much, but I know exactly what you're talking about. It was so like out of like straight out of Silent Hill. And I just like think about it probably like once a week and just wish that. Yeah, this guy backed out. We could talk to that person. But then again, maybe it's best that we never did. And then it just kind of stays as this thing in my head.
Was it like boring abandoned houses and they found like blood on the wall or something? It was like a foggy, like maybe like an abandoned like suburb kind of or like housing tract kind of thing. Sector X, that's what it was called. Sector X. And there was like someone with an axe or something. Yeah, it's been a long time.
Do you remember the story about, like, somebody's dog getting pulled under the house? Oh, my God. Yes. That one freaked me out. That one was crazy. This was another person who didn't reply. Like, they stopped replying. But what was the gist of it, Nikki? Oh, my gosh. This was, like, when I first started working. So, like, three years ago, maybe.
um it was like a house and he was house sitting I think and he had his dog with him and there was a basement and it was like a cursed basement or something um and there was like a little hole to get in there and I think it was something about like he got like pulled in but it was empty in there and like he couldn't come like something was pulling him in and he couldn't
Something like... Do you remember this time? The dog was being pulled in, right? It was the dog, not him? Oh. Maybe he got pulled in? Or maybe the daughter. I don't remember. It's been so long. But it wasn't the person who experienced it that submitted the story. It was their sister. And so we kept trying to put us in touch with your brother.
And then she'd be like, the brother does not want to talk about this. I'm so sorry. I shouldn't have emailed you. But that happens often. Yeah. Yeah. We get a lot of really, sometimes the craziest stories are the ones that like they just decide to not want to share it. We have a lot of those. Because it's usually the people who are the most scared, which makes me the most interested, of course.
Yeah. It really, that's the most painful part about this show is like the ones that get away.
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Chapter 7: How do the hosts react to frightening audio recordings?
Yeah. It really is the worst part. And then it's like for me at least, it's just I don't even care about making the episode. Like I just want to talk to you and know what happened. No, yeah. No, it is like that. That's the thing for me. We don't have to record it. I just want to hear it at a certain point. Like I just want to know. I'm very curious.
Like the guy who met God at Burger King or whatever. Oh, my God. Yeah. I don't know. He met life. Okay. He kept like saying he wanted to record and then backing out. And then, yeah. But I think he was probably. There was another one that we got. And it was this man who he was working on a boat or something on a lake. And he said that these beans came to him. Remember this, Theo? Yeah.
I remember this, yeah. These beings came to him. What came to him? Oh, beings. Beings. And then, like, all of a sudden he, like, woke up on shore and he had just no memory of how that happened to him. Huh. Yeah, crazy. And then I reached out to him and he just was like, I don't want to talk about this. Like, I shouldn't have sent that email.
And I was just like, okay, like, I respect your decision. Yeah, the mystery is always the most intriguing aspect of it. Yeah. I think also one that freaked me out was the chicken whackers. Oh, yeah. Oh, absolutely. I kind of... I like love that American like almost like occult myth stuff. It reminded me of like the first season of True Detective or something. And like...
When we were talking about it before we were making the actual episode, just looking this stuff up, how little information there was on the internet was so surprising to me. Because I just feel like it doesn't happen anymore. Everything is documented or there's Reddit threads about stuff. When we looked it up, at least, there was maybe four or five Google search results that made sense.
at all everything else was just like non-related and I was like whoa this is like actually something that seems freaky and that is one of my favorite ones and also you know I did talk to people more about that later people even sent me some like documents related to it but it got enough where I was like look
if this is real, even if it's, like, real people doing bad things that, like, it has been credited to the chicken whackers or whatever, like, I'm like, I don't know if I really want to go poking this bear personally. That seemed to be the consensus from, like, because I was doing the TikTok at the time, and I was making a series of videos about
the chicken whackers and i would get comments and dms being like you need to stop looking into this really yeah like yeah and then you know one person was like if you want to come out here i'll show you like the underground tunnels where like all this stuff goes down and stuff but like but he was like but you cannot be public about it like you need to stop talking about this and it didn't scare me because i don't live anywhere near grand junction colorado and like i don't
necessarily think that the chicken whackers is related to like a grander like pan-american uh conspiracy but the idea of going down there and like actually you know some of this being real was pretty scary Yeah, like, whether or not it's, like, occult or paranormal, like, that's one thing.
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