Out and Back
Episodes
#42 Listener Q & A - Broken Arrow & MRI Update
21 Jun 2026
Contributed by Lukas
Jacob and Rory check in on what's been a rocky few weeks for Jacob's Achilles -- paratendon inflammation that's forced him to pull most of...
#41 Brady Holmer - High Carb Evidence, Ketone, and How to Actually Sleep Before a Race
14 Jun 2026
Contributed by Lukas
Brady Holmer is back for his third appearance, which officially makes him the most tenured guest in Out and Back history. He's a week out from Gra...
#40 David Roche - The Rules of High Carb Training, How to Train the Gut, Fatigue Resistance, & Training the Pros
07 Jun 2026
Contributed by Lukas
David Roche -- ultra marathoner, elite running coach, and what Rory's calling the godfather of the high carb revolution -- joins the Out and Back ...
#39 Between Reps - Ottawa Marathon Edition
31 May 2026
Contributed by Lukas
Olympian John Gay, host of the Shakeout Podcast, joins Jacob and Rory one week out from the Ottawa Marathon where John ran 2:14 in his debut and Rory ...
#38 Vinny Mauri - Untold Stories from a 2:05 Marathon Debut + Training with the Out & Back Boys in Flagstaff soon?
24 May 2026
Contributed by Lukas
Blue Collar Middle America Hero Vincent Mauri joins the Out & Back podcast from his woodworking shop after working a full days shift at the local ...
#37 Molly Seidel - Marathons to Trails, Western States 100 miler, How to keep running fun
17 May 2026
Contributed by Lukas
Olympic marathon medalist turned trail runner, Molly Seidel, talks about her path from the roads to the trails. From the pavement to trail races to th...
#36 - How to taper for a Marathon and How to Recover After | Shakeout Podcast with John Gay
10 May 2026
Contributed by Lukas
How to taper for a marathon, How to recover after a marathon & much more, on The Shakeout Podcast with John Gay ahead of his marathon debut.Kava H...
#35 Between Reps - London Marathon, 2:05 in Ohio, Has the marathon changed forever? Listener Questions!
03 May 2026
Contributed by Lukas
We try to make sense of the London Marathon, compare it to the Boston Marathon, Talk about the crazy 2:05 in Toledo Ohio and then follow up with some ...
#34 Between Reps - Boston Marathon Reflection after running 2:06 and 2:09, What a weekend!
23 Apr 2026
Contributed by Lukas
Join our newsletterJoin our Strava groupFollow us:Jacob’s YouTubeRory’s YouTube Out And Back YouTubeRory’s StravaJacob’s...
#33 Ben Rosario - Running Industry Insider, Professional Coach and Founder of NAZ Elite, Race Director, Running Store Owner
19 Apr 2026
Contributed by Lukas
We sat down with Ben Rosario to chat about his life in the running world. From owning running stores, founding a professional running team NAZ elite, ...
#32 Between Reps - Boston Marathon Edition, Deep Dive into our Boston Builds, Will the World Champs Marathon be Successful? How Hard is it to Make Multiple US Olympic Marathon Teams?
12 Apr 2026
Contributed by Lukas
See you all at our Boston Shakeout Run!Saturday April 18th12:30 PM @ Hatch Memorial ShellJoin our newsletterJoin our Strava groupFollow us:Jacob...
#31 - Listener Call In Show, We answer your marathon questions and discuss all the hot takes.
05 Apr 2026
Contributed by Lukas
This week we have a Listener Call In Show, which is a new take on our mailbag episodes. 6 guest appear to throw us their questions and takes for discu...
#30 Ed Eyestone - From being an Olympian to Coaching Them, Elite Marathon Training Philosophy, What's Difference in Today's Era of Running and Training
29 Mar 2026
Contributed by Lukas
Be sure to check out our show notes and sign up for our newsletter if you want the details on our Out & Back Boston Marathon Shakeout Run - we'...
#29 Phil Sesemann - London Marathon Training, Linking up with Alex Yee and Emile Cairess, Achieving the Olympic Dream + a NYC Half Marathon Debrief from Jacob and Rory
22 Mar 2026
Contributed by Lukas
In this two-part episode, Rory and Jacob recap the NYC United Airlines Half Marathon, breaking down their race performances, key takeaways, and how it...
#28 Conner Mantz - Lessons from Injury, Boston Build, Training Insights
15 Mar 2026
Contributed by Lukas
Conner’s StravaConner Mantz Shokz DocumentaryJoin our newsletterJoin our Strava groupFollow us:Rory’s StravaJacob’s StravaR...
#27 Between Reps - Ethan Shuley's Training Deep Dive, Grant Fisher’s Half Debut, USATF Half Marathon Disaster, Boston Marathon Training Updates
08 Mar 2026
Contributed by Lukas
Join our newsletter - We'll send your the PDF.Join our Strava groupFollow us:Rory’s StravaJacob’s StravaRory’s Instagra...
#26 Dakotah Popehn - Boston Marathon, Minnesota Distance Elite, Overdistance Long Runs
01 Mar 2026
Contributed by Lukas
Check out our links below!In this episode, pro marathoner Dakotah discusses her training strategies, altitude training in Utah, race tactics for Heart...
#25 Jess Tonn McClain - Boston Marathon, Marathon Fueling, Bicarb for Long Races, Keeping Training Fun, Lower Mileage Approach to the Marathon
22 Feb 2026
Contributed by Lukas
Today we sit down with Jess Tonn McClain who was the top American at the 2025 Boston Marathon, 8th place at the 2025 World Championships Marathon, 4th...
#24 Between Reps - Pacing the AR attempt, Upcoming races, Marathon Myths, Does the treadmill count?
14 Feb 2026
Contributed by Lukas
If you enjoy this podcast - please give us a follow and leave a review - It helps the show a ton! Check out our links below.In this episode of the Out...
#23 Brady Holmer - What really matters when it comes to sleep, caffeine, ketones, lactate training
08 Feb 2026
Contributed by Lukas
Check out our links below!We welcomed back our first-ever returning guest, Brady Holmer, for a wide-ranging conversation on performance, recovery, and...
#22 - Mailbag, Boston Marathon Fields, Training Updates
01 Feb 2026
Contributed by Lukas
Please give the podcast a follow, a 5 star review, and share with a friend with you enjoyed today's episde. Today Rory and Jacob break down the Bo...
#21 Eric Floberg - Floberg Runs, Dad Strength, Discipline, Authenticity in Content Creation, Marathon Training in Chicago
25 Jan 2026
Contributed by Lukas
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#20 Josh Hoey - Indoor 600 World Record, New Training, New Balance Grand Prix, Wanamaker Mile, Bicarb, and Favorite War Movies
18 Jan 2026
Contributed by Lukas
In this episode of the Out and Back podcast, host Jacob Thomson and co-host Chris Striegel welcome elite 800-meter runner Josh Hoey. They discuss Josh...
#19 - Canadian Record, Rory runs 59:49 at the Houston Half Marathon
13 Jan 2026
Contributed by Lukas
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#18 - Houston Marathon Preview, What's in & What's out for 2026
08 Jan 2026
Contributed by Lukas
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#17 JP Flavin - Marathon Project Champion, Brooks Hansons Distance Project, in collaboration with Jon Gay from the Shakeout Podcast
02 Jan 2026
Contributed by Lukas
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#16 Between Reps with Chris - Training Updates, most Overrated, Underrated, and Misunderstood things in Running, How much Volume is too much?
21 Dec 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Join Jacob, Rory, and Chris as they dive into a good ole banter style episode that feels like a run with friends. From debating the most overrated run...
#15 Joe Whelan - 6 marathons in 1 year, 2:09 at CIM
14 Dec 2025
Contributed by Lukas
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#14 Johannes Motschmann - 140 mile weeks, 2:10 Marathon, Best Training Camps
09 Dec 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Please hit the follow and subscribe button and leave us a rating!Join our Strava groupFollow us:Rory’s StravaJacob’s StravaRo...
#13 - CIM & US Champs Preview, Taper Time, Key Workouts in the Build, Fuel Plan
01 Dec 2025
Contributed by Lukas
If you enjoyed this episode - please give us a review and follow!Today we discuss the upcoming California International Marathon (CIM), which is also ...
#12 Mica Riveria Wood - Building Instagram and Youtube to 100k, Marathon Debut, Training with Ed Eyestone's group
23 Nov 2025
Contributed by Lukas
If you enjoyed this episode, please give us a follow and share it with a friend!Mica Rivera Wood discusses balancing being a creator and an elite runn...
#11 Brady Holmer - Vo2 Max, How to Increase Volume Safely, Heat Training for Performance, Sub 2:20 at CIM.
17 Nov 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Please give us a follow at the links below and share with a friend. Today we chat with Brady Holmer. This was a very science heavy episode. We cover V...
#10 Ran to Japan - Why is Japan so deep in the marathon? Running Youtube, 2:38 to 2:13 Marathon, Olympic Dreams, Building a Community
09 Nov 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Please give us a follow, share this episode with a friend, and check out our socials!Join the nearly 100k subs Jake has on YouTube here:Join our St...
#9 - Biya Simbassa, 2:06 Marathoner, Top American Seed at New York City Marathon
01 Nov 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Please do us a massive favor and like, rate, and share the podcast if you enjoy it!Biya is a former teammate and training partner of both Jacob and Ro...
#8 - Reed Fischer - Tinman Elite's new focus, New York City Marathon, World Championships
26 Oct 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Give us a follow and join us on social media if you enjoyed today's episode.Join our Strava groupFollow us:Rory’s StravaJacob’s...
#7 - Chicago Marathon War Stories, Rory runs 2:06, Way to early 2028 Olympic Trials discussion
15 Oct 2025
Contributed by Lukas
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#6 - Chicago Marathon Preview, The Record Chase is ON, Your guide to race day!
09 Oct 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Be sure to give us a rating and leave a comment!Join our Strava groupFollow us:Rory’s StravaJacob’s StravaRory’s Instagram...
#5 Mike Arishita - CEO & Founder of Blanks Nutrition, How to fuel for a marathon
01 Oct 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Blanks Sports NutritionIn this episode of the Out and Back podcast, Rory and Jacob welcome Michael Arashida, CEO and founder of Blanks Sports Nutritio...
#4 Julia Paternain - World Championship Medalist, Phone calls from Paula Radcliffe and the Uruguayan President
26 Sep 2025
Contributed by Lukas
In this episode of the Out and Back podcast, hosts Jacob Thomson and Rory Linkletter welcome Julia Paternain, a bronze medalist at the Tokyo World Cha...
#3 - Cow Harbor 10k Preview, Flagstaff Medal in the Marathon, World Championships talk, Hocker DQ, Jakob 5k Revenge
19 Sep 2025
Contributed by Lukas
In this episode of the Out and Back podcast, hosts Jacob Thomson and Rory Linkletter discuss the excitement of the fall marathon season, including the...
#2 Jon Green - Coaching an Olympic Medalist, Indicator Workouts, Verde Track Club Future
19 Sep 2025
Contributed by Lukas
In this episode of Out and Back, hosts Jacob Thomson and Rory Linkletter welcome their first guest, John Green, head coach of the Verde Track Club. Th...
#1 - Pilot Episode, Why a Podcast, Marathon is for Everyone
19 Sep 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Episode 1:In the inaugural episode of the Out and Back podcast, hosts Rory Linkletter and Jacob Thomson discuss their backgrounds in running, current ...