Out of the FHIR Podcast
Episodes
Why TRUST is the most important element in enabling Healthcare Interoperability
17 Apr 2026
Contributed by Lukas
Ever wondered why security is key for FHIR interoperability? Here’s what you need to know! Tag someone who needs to understand this! In the healthc...
Episode 24 - HIMSS 2026 Roundup
25 Mar 2026
Contributed by Lukas
I just got back from HIMSS 2026, and my ears are still ringing mostly from the sound of vendors pivoting to “AI-First” strategies overnight.In Epi...
Episode 23 - Max Nussbaumer
04 Feb 2026
Contributed by Lukas
In this episode, I sat down with Max Nussbaumer to talk about why he founded Max Health, why he’s bringing his work from Europe into the U.S. market...
Episode 22 - Chris Hutchins
21 Jan 2026
Contributed by Lukas
Top 10 Takeaways: COVID, Data, and the Coming AI Reckoning in Healthcare1) Healthcare didn’t lack data. It lacked urgency.The pandemic didn’t intr...
Episode 21 - Pooja Babbrah
12 Jan 2026
Contributed by Lukas
In Episode 21 of Out of the FHIR, I sat down with Pooja Babbrah, Executive Vice President of Strategy and Industry Alignment for NCPDP. We bonded over...
Episode 20 - Paulius Mui, MD - X Primary Care
05 Jan 2026
Contributed by Lukas
This episode of Out of the FHIR features Paulius Mui, MD, a family physician and entrepreneur, exploring the critical intersection of clinical medicin...
Episode 19 - with Aaron Neiderhiser and Phil Ballentine
12 Dec 2025
Contributed by Lukas
This week, I’m sharing a special conversation I had with Aaron Neiderhiser of Tuva Health and Phil Ballentine from Atropos Health (together they hos...
Michael Westover on the perils of vendor data sharing
13 Nov 2025
Contributed by Lukas
In today’s rapidly evolving healthcare landscape, the integration of data between payers and providers has become crucial for delivering value-based...
Episode 17 - Eric Melymuk & John Dobak
07 Nov 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Welcome back to Out of the FHIR. This isn’t just any episode. This is a reunion.FHIR Data guy brings together two heavy-hitters from his past, Eric ...
Episode 16 - From Blue Button to Bulk FHIR with Mark Scrimshire
29 Oct 2025
Contributed by Lukas
In this episode, I speak with Mark Scrimshire, Chief Interoperability Officer at Onyx, about his extensive journey in healthcare interoperability, the...
Stop Building for Interoperability (And Start Building a Great Product)
03 Oct 2025
Contributed by Lukas
In our latest episode of Out of the FHIR, I had a refreshingly candid conversation with Scott Rossignol of Farseen Advisors. With over 15 years in the...
Episode 14 - Mark Kramer
22 Sep 2025
Contributed by Lukas
In a new episode of the "Out of the FHIR" podcast, host Gene Vestel sits down with Mark Kramer PhD of MITRE, a pioneering force in both artificial int...
Episode 13 - Bill Lakenan & Benji Graham
09 Sep 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Guests: Bill Lakenan & Benji Graham – FHIR evangelists & innovators at Bellese Where We’re At* CQL maturity: Finally stable enough to calculate wi...
Episode 12 - Chad Sanderson & Mark Freeman (Gable.ai)
21 Aug 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Are you living in a world of broken dashboards and unreliable data pipelines? You're not alone. For too long, data has been treated as a downstream pr...
Episode 11 - Kerry Weinberg (PhenoML)
15 Aug 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Get ready to geek out! This week on "Out of the FHIR," Gene Vestel sits down with the brilliant Kerry Weinberg, co-founder of Phenomenal and a true ex...
Episode 10: A New Era for Interoperability? A Deep Dive with Jill DeGraff
11 Aug 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Welcome back to another episode of Out of the Fire Podcast, where we tackle the hottest topics at the intersection of healthcare, FHIR, interoperabili...
Episode 9 - Eyal Dviri
05 Aug 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Welcome to Episode 9 of Out of the Fhir! This week, we're joined by a special guest, Eyal Dviri, Head of the Data Innovation team at Clalit Health Ser...
Episode 8 - Ron Urwongse - (Defacto Health) Building a Real Provider Directory
01 Aug 2025
Contributed by Lukas
🎙️ Episode 8 – Why Provider Data Is Still Broken (And How to Fix It) | Guest: Ron UrwongseIn this episode of Out of the FHIR, Gene sits down wi...
Episode 7 - "Plaid" in Healthcare with Brendan Keeler & Jason Kulatunga - Part 2
25 Jul 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Out of the FHIR – Special Edition: Plaid for Healthcare, Part 2 Episode Title: The Infrastructure Awakens: From Interop Dreams to Data-Driven Realit...
Part 1 of Out of the FHIR Special Episode - Plaid of Healthcare Deep Dive with Brendan Keeler And Jason Kulatunga of Fasten Health
21 Jul 2025
Contributed by Lukas
🎙️ Out of the FHIR: Deep Dive – Plaid in Healthcare with Brendan Keeler & Jason Kulatunga - Part 1In this episode of Out of the FHIR, we go dee...
Out of the FHIR Podcast - Episode 5 - Joshua Kelly - Part 2
15 Jul 2025
Contributed by Lukas
🎙️ Out of the FHIR Podcast: Part 2 with Joshua Kelly – Highlights🚀 What’s Joshua Excited About?* Payer-to-Payer ExchangeA pivotal shift en...
Out of the FHIR Episode 4 - Joshua Kelly - Part 1
09 Jul 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Episode 4: Unlocking Interoperability with Joshua KellyIn this episode, Gene Vestel sits down with Joshua Kelly, CTO of Flexpa, to unpack the complexi...
Out of the FHIR Podcast - Episode 3 - Cody Ebberson
29 Jun 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Episode 3 of Out of the FHIR is for the builders, skeptics, and believers in making healthcare data actually usable.🎙️ We talk about:* Why you ca...
Out of the FHIR podcast - Episode 2 - Darren Devitt
23 Jun 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Episode 2 – Education, Empowerment & FHIR Realism with Darren DevittIn this episode of Out of the FHIR, Eugene sits down with Darren Devitt — a se...
Out of the FHIR Podcast Episode 1 - with Grahame Grieve
12 Jun 2025
Contributed by Lukas
In our inaugural episode of "Out of the FHIR," host Eugene Vestel sits down with Grahame Grieve, the visionary founder of HL7 FHIR (Fast Healthcare In...
FHIR: Benefits and Challenges Explored
23 Apr 2025
Contributed by Lukas
FHIR Talk: Building Modern Healthcare Data Platforms - Hype vs. Reality Get full access to FHIR IQ playbook at evestel.substack.com/subscribe