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Johnson on Taylor Swift interaction, Knicks’ historic comeback, Brunson’s legacy and more!
11 Jun 2026
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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
Let's bring in the host of Inside the NBA on ESPN. Was courtside last night on the court postgame. There's one of our favorites, Ernie Johnson. How you doing, Ernie?
If I had a tail, it would be wagging. How you doing, Brian?
Do it very well. Before we get to the game itself, we saw you with Taylor.
I stole that line from somebody. You can feel free to steal it.
Okay, we will. I'll take it. We're always looking for material. We saw you with Taylor Swift last night. Did you secure your invitation to the wedding last night or what, Ernie?
I was asked that so many times by my kids and my grandkids. The answer is no, but this was one of those moments where it was, if I don't get a picture with her, my grandkids may never speak to me again and my daughters would never speak to me again. So yeah, and she was great.
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Chapter 2: What happened when Ernie Johnson bumped into Taylor Swift?
She was like, okay, yeah, sure, let's go. And so yeah, that was to keep all the kids back here at home happy.
Ernie, just the vibe in New York City. I mean, that fan base is just starving for this. The comeback last night. Can you just describe what it was all about and the mood in the building and the whole vibe? It just looks incredible.
It's like nothing I've ever seen. And look, I've been in this chair for 37 years, and this is our first time to the finals. That's been one of the great things this year is that that's part of the deal. They kept us together and put us on ESPN and ABC, and so we could continue to do the show as we've always done it. All that being said, first finals,
It's been more than a half a century since the Knicks won a title. You got Victor Wimbinyama, this guy who's towering over the league, and that's your matchup. And so when you have all those ingredients going into it, you know it has to be special. It was great. I mean, they were excited. San Antonio, that was great the first two games, but New York... was ridiculous.
I mean, that game three before the game, that place was roaring 45 minutes before tip-off. And then when the Knicks took the floor, the place just shook. And last night, after being the quietest place in New York City, when these guys are just getting thumped, suddenly it starts to turn around. And then when it gets like within 15, you're saying, yeah, there's still plenty of time left.
And then when it gets under 10, it's OK, it's a game. It is now, it's a game. And when Ananobi tipped that shot in, and then they couldn't convert on the inbounds play, the place, it was pandemonium. It was just, it was like one of those, not like a rush to court thing, but everybody was on the floor. Every celebrity you've ever seen was wandering around on the floor.
Fans are dancing in their seats. The place is rocking. And When you do what we do, you can't ask for a better setting to do that show and try to capture all that's going on there. So there you go. By the way, that is the longest answer in history, and I hope you had a clock on it.
You nailed it, though. You nailed it. Awesome. You know, being around that setting, and you've been around the game so long, is there a game or any type of situation that you could think would be a close second to that, or is this just far and gone, number one?
Man, you know, we were in the building when LeBron scored 25 in a row and 29 of the last 30 for the Cavs, a playoff night in Detroit. And that was pretty amazing. But to see a building like this just... embracing the moment and nobody wanting to leave. No. And the comeback, I mean, it's the biggest comeback in playoff history. Nobody's ever done that. And so it was special. And in my career...
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Chapter 3: How did the Knicks create an electric comeback in Game 4?
And that setting was absolutely unique because along the 18th hole, there are just throngs of people as far as you can see, you know, watching the Golden Bear. I would put it, it was that kind of a special moment And so, yeah, you don't see it very often, and you just feel very fortunate when you get to be part of it.
Yeah, it was incredible. We're chatting with Ernie Johnson of Inside the NBA. He and the crew were in the building at the Garden last night. The Knicks stormed back to win game four. They're up 3-1 in that series.
Chapter 4: What was the vibe like in Madison Square Garden during the game?
And, you know, you guys, when you're composing yourself, we can kind of put ourselves in your shoes to an extent. We've been at big sporting events and trying to break down what just happened. And as a result, you start thinking – What is the context of this, and what should be the driving force of the chat? I'm curious where your instincts went first.
Was it the Knicks and what they just accomplished, or the Spurs and what they just threw away?
Well, it was for me, it was the Knicks. And obviously, you're going to go both directions on that, you know, when you're looking at this. But Chuck immediately was like. He said San Antonio was the dumbest basketball they'd ever seen. So Chuck looks at it one way. Some of us look at it another way. But I think that whole blend is what gives you the total picture of what was going on.
Because San Antonio's shot selection, starting in the third quarter... was really bad. I mean, it was like they had this huge lead and then they were just jacking stuff up and with plenty of time on the shot clock, it was like rushing up three-pointers like, you know, like they thought that this thing was over.
And then turning the ball over, some really blatant bad turnovers when the game started to get tight and every time it seemed New York would convert on it. I do have to tell you, too, when you talk about that last play, the last inbounds by San Antonio, Carl Anthony Towns got a finger on that ball. And so that allowed the Knicks to defend it because...
Because Dylan Harper was making a good move to the hoop, and Cat just tipped it enough to slow that down, or Stephon Cassel, I should say. So yeah, so Cat, even with the fingertip, that's all it took.
Ernie, can you think of what the future could be like if the Knicks get this done for a guy like Jalen Brunson? I mean, you've been around New York superstars, whether it be Derek Jeter or Mark Messier, guys like legacy players that have gotten it done.
He's had supporting cast that have helped him, but he really seems to be the guy that's driving the bus, just like what his future could be like if they pulled this off.
Yeah, I mean, he's... I liken him more to Mariano Rivera, just as the closer. Because, you know, Rivera was lights out. You bring him in in the ninth inning, and here comes the cutter, and you guys got no chance. And Brunson thrives in that situation. You know, leading scorer in the fourth quarter in the playoffs. His numbers in clutch time are so good. And that's the thing. He started slowly.
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