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OverDrive - June 22, 2026 - Hour 2 - Pierre LeBrun

22 Jun 2026

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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?

0.149 - 11.199 Bryan Hayes

Hour 2 Overdrive continues, powered by FanDuel, Brian Hayes, YoDog, Jeff O'Neill, Jamie Noodles, McLennan. Shout out to Lionel Messi.

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11.299 - 13.181 Jonas Siegel

Wait, I'm not Jamie Noodles, McLennan.

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13.201 - 27.795 Bryan Hayes

Oh, Jonas Siegel. Sorry, Jonas. I was already thinking of where I was going next. Yeah, no, it wasn't even that. I was glazing over the intro because I was going to get to the Messi conversation.

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28.636 - 29.076 Jonas Siegel

Okay. Okay.

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29.933 - 41.227 Bryan Hayes

I blanked on the fact that you're in here instead of noodles. Sorry, Jonas. My apologies. I think the audience would have picked up on the fact that you're Jonas, not noodles. But I'm glad that you corrected me on that.

41.247 - 43.07 Jonas Siegel

I am a known Vasilevsky backer.

43.15 - 69.113 Bryan Hayes

Yes. Yes. The Vesna winner. Right? You've always been a fan. Even when he struggled, you were always a big, big fan. So Jonas Siegel of the Athletic in here. But Messi, two more goals at the World Cup. That's 18 career wins. World Cup goals for Lionel Messi. And every time I see this guy play, I wonder, why is he in MLS? Like, how is this guy not in Europe? He's still the best player.

69.894 - 73.46 Bryan Hayes

And he's just over here with his feet up and making money.

73.48 - 95.371 Jamie McLennan

You ever want to go down an incredible rabbit hole of, like, goals and stuff, like, in the game of soccer? Like, that guy scored some of the most outrageous goals. Yeah. The ball handling ability, it's incredible. If you're a fan and you've ever got an hour, just go down. It's incredible.

Chapter 2: What are the latest updates on Brady Tkachuk's trade to the Panthers?

820.08 - 837.624 Pierre LeBrun

That means you don't get the player in most cases. Maybe they need to collude. You answered your own question there, Jonas. Because like Nashville, when David Poyle was still GM in Nashville, they were the last organization left, as I remember. I remember writing about this. They were the last team left that had no moves other than Pekka Rinne had one.

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837.644 - 854.549 Pierre LeBrun

And the rest of the entire roster, no one had one. Like that was like a culture thing in Nashville. And eventually, it broke down because the Predators were not going to get anyone because the agents saying... Dude, I got five other offers, and they're all including the no trade, and you guys aren't including the no trade.

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854.709 - 863.984 Pierre LeBrun

And it just became a position where the Predators couldn't negotiate against the world that way. So, yeah, I think the horses have left the barn on that one.

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Chapter 3: How will Brady Tkachuk fit into the Panthers' roster?

864.004 - 882.31 Jamie McLennan

Pierre, there's a group chat at Hamilton Country Club, Golfing Country Club, that want to know, Richie wants to know, Are you 100% confident, and I said I'd ask you the question, that Austin Matthews will be on the opening night roster for the Toronto Maple Leafs?

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885.53 - 915.368 Pierre LeBrun

I've learned never to embrace 100%, but my understanding is that Austin Matthews intends on being here next year, that that more or less has been communicated, still not in an official way from the agent, John Moldaver, to John Chayka, but in a way in which those guys are having conversations all the time, Chayka and Moldaver, in a way in which that's where it's absolutely pointing, that Matthews will at least give Toronto another year now that he's seen

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915.348 - 937.047 Pierre LeBrun

the leafs offseason play out here with a gm hire a coach hire some moves more moves to come um i think matthews is is i put it at i don't know nine ninety five percent how about that okay um what more moves would you be expecting pierre when it comes to the maple leaves Yeah, it's interesting.

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937.488 - 953.571 Pierre LeBrun

Just a couple hours ago, I was digging in on that a bit, and another team said to me that the Leafs are in on all kinds of things. They're looking to upgrade in goal. They're looking to upgrade on the blue line. They're looking to upgrade up front still. So they've got a lot of balls that they're juggling.

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954.773 - 972.638 Pierre LeBrun

And I think, listen, I think John Chayka shared that with the Toronto media last week, that he was a pretty busy guy that way. I think everyone's trying to figure out the Matthew Nye situation. I know that Jake has said that it's most likely that he's going to retain him.

Chapter 4: What impact does Brady Tkachuk's trade have on the Senators?

972.658 - 995.552 Pierre LeBrun

I think there are conversations being had there, I will just say. I'm not saying he's definitely getting dealt because I don't think that's true, but I will say there's a lot more meat on that bone than not in terms of teams' interest. It might get to a point where Toronto's no choice but to dig in on those conversations. The teams keep showing how serious they are trying to get Matthew Nyes.

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997.097 - 1026.15 Pierre LeBrun

So yeah, that's one particular item on the list. And of course, Morgan Riley, as Jonas wrote about last week, I mean, he's open to a move. My sense is teams like San Jose and Anaheim would be high on his list of destinations. Certainly, I know for a fact that he sent a Western Conference-heavy list, suggested list, to the Leafs. Morgan Riley did. So we'll see what the Leafs can do with that.

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1027.592 - 1052.973 Bryan Hayes

This Matthew Nye stuff is fascinating. It really is. Yeah, everything's like, well, they'd only trade him if they were blown away. So what is that... What are they looking for? Because I've heard it's got to be a top ten pick, or it's got to be a number one defenseman. They have to have an idea of why they would be peddling him. What is your understanding on that front?

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1053.033 - 1056.46 Bryan Hayes

What would be mandatory in return for the Maple Leafs?

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1058.38 - 1081.873 Pierre LeBrun

So that's an excellent question, because what I was told today is that it depends on the team you're talking about, that the Leafs have had ideas thrown at them where one team is offering a really good defenseman, another team is offering a different type of forward, but another team is offering a futures package.

1082.242 - 1103.305 Pierre LeBrun

My sense is the Leafs haven't told teams this is the only thing we're interested in. They're just taking calls and saying, you know, put your best foot forward. Again, I think John Chayka is being genuine when he says it's more likely than not he's keeping Matthew Nyes. But he's also taking calls. And again, what I find interesting is that

1103.285 - 1115.377 Pierre LeBrun

I think the Leafs have had a lot of different type of offers thrown at them. Not one generic brand, i.e. Toronto's not going out saying this has to be the exact ask. They're listening on different things.

1116.578 - 1131.432 Bryan Hayes

Pierre, there's a group chat at the Winnipeg Golf and Country Club that is wondering and asked me to ask you whether or not you think Connor Hellebuck is still going to be the Winnipeg Jet come opening night next year.

1132.032 - 1153.299 Pierre LeBrun

Yeah. I tell you what, when O started that question, by the way, I thought he was going to ask me about Wyndham Clark. I couldn't figure out why everyone hated him so much yesterday on the course. But then I figured out the background story. That was tough to watch. Listen, Connor Halibut is very much open to a change. I mean, that's hardly breaking news.

Chapter 5: How do player preferences affect team dynamics in the NHL?

2190.354 - 2204.774 Bryan Hayes

Yeah, I think Montreal, like Dobish and Fowler as a tandem, is going to win, I think, a lot of games next year. Yeah. And... They'll probably be active this year. They're lurking in the weeds.

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2205.395 - 2225.627 Jamie McLennan

Their noodles is gone. We can say it now, boys. You get Mike Babcock in there, I don't care what kind of X's and O's that guy can draw on a chalkboard, they don't get enough saves. They just don't. Edmonton, you mean, yeah. Edmonton Oilers. They flipped out both of their goaltendings, and it was a complete misfire.

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2227.126 - 2232.517 Bryan Hayes

Yeah, and they went and signed Dickinson and Murphy today.

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2232.537 - 2234.741 Jonas Siegel

The big deals.

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2234.781 - 2263.059 Bryan Hayes

They acquired them at the trade deadline, and they're good enough players. Good players. But whenever they make a move, immediately people say, I wonder what McDavid's thinking right now. Trent Frederick, Murphy, Dickinson. The goalie trade. Tristan Jari. He signed that deal and the money, they used it on those players effectively. And Mike Babcock, which by all accounts he is a supporter of.

2264.121 - 2288.919 Bryan Hayes

But yeah, I think Montreal has taken the driver's seat on that front. And then I think Edmonton too. The next one is like, is it still Ottawa? Like Ottawa would be there for me. But I don't know. Without Kachuk, I'm curious what Ottawa does now. I think they have to be active. I think they've got to swing for the fences and make a trade, like flip the picks or something.

2289.56 - 2310.306 Jamie McLennan

What I just mentioned to Pierre, Brian, they can be active and say, you know what, we can go out and pursue Jason Robertson. And by the way, that guy's probably asking for $13 million to $15 million a year. With the point production that that guy's put up, that's probably in somewhere in the vicinity of his ass. Totally.

2311.113 - 2316.701 Bryan Hayes

Yeah, it could be. Yeah, no, I hear you. You can't do Debrink at 2.0. No, no.

2316.861 - 2340.9 Jamie McLennan

So it's easy to say they've got to be aggressive and try to replace Brady Kachuk. But I talked about it with Pierre. The guys on the other end might be like, that's one of my teams. I don't go there. So it's awfully difficult to just say, go and get a great player to come there and play. And if you start doing stupid stuff like overpaying, it's a dangerous game.

Chapter 6: What challenges do Canadian teams face in attracting players?

2477.652 - 2485.5 Jamie McLennan

So what are you going to do in this? Jonas isn't the believer of you can have two mids. Well, you're a Bussie Anderson guy for life.

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2485.52 - 2492.648 Jonas Siegel

I just think goalies are impossible to figure out. I'm not giving up my number two.

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2492.748 - 2497.773 Bryan Hayes

Well, he's not a number one. I love Florida. Anton Lindell's a one. No, he's not.

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2498.253 - 2499.254 Jonas Siegel

He's not right now.

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2499.455 - 2502.698 Bryan Hayes

But he's not going to be. He's a really good player.

2502.678 - 2508.57 Jonas Siegel

Okay, well, on Toronto, he would be their number two. Okay. And on most teams, he would be a number two. Exactly.

2508.59 - 2510.393 Bryan Hayes

Okay.

2510.714 - 2518.189 Jonas Siegel

But you're answering, he's not a number one. You know what the thing that is impossible to get? Centers. Especially number two centers. Have you looked at, like, free agency?

Chapter 7: What are the implications of the NHL's salary cap changes?

2518.209 - 2519.612 Jonas Siegel

The Leafs need a number two center.

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2519.632 - 2522.357 Bryan Hayes

Who's their number two center? There are no centers. Is it him or Sam Bennett?

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2522.827 - 2524.109 Jonas Siegel

It's the same thing.

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2524.129 - 2531.74 Bryan Hayes

Okay, but that's my point. You have Barkov. You have Bennett already. Right. Like, if you don't have a goaltender, if Bob leaves, they literally don't have anyone signed.

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2532.121 - 2536.648 Jonas Siegel

Yeah, you can trade for someone. You can sign someone else. I don't know. Okay. All right, all right.

2536.668 - 2537.329 Bryan Hayes

I'm just saying.

2537.349 - 2543.398 Jonas Siegel

I just think if I was ranking what's more important, I'd rather have the number two center who's like 25 or whatever he is.

2544.339 - 2547.985 Bryan Hayes

Then the number one goalie will play 60 games for you?

2548.005 - 2558.173 Jonas Siegel

Yeah, but like, okay. You're entitled to your opinion. I'm just asking. You're right. It's worth thinking about. That's just my first thought. I would hang up the phone.

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