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OverDrive - June 23, 2026 - Hour 1

23 Jun 2026

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Chapter 1: What are the implications of Simon Nemec joining the Flames?

0.031 - 24.261 Bryan Hayes

This hour of Overdrive is powered by FanDuel. FanDuel, bringing you everything from the opening line to the final score. Alright, here we go, Overdrive, off and running. TSN 1050 on the TSN app, your home smart speaker, up on TSN 5, up on YouTube Live. Later this evening, streaming on Crave. Brian Hazio, Doug Jeff O'Neill, Jamie Noodles, McLennan.

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24.341 - 25.482 Steve Greenblatt

Going on today.

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26.272 - 29.676 Jamie McLennan

We had lunch with one of the greats today, boys.

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29.977 - 30.357 Steve Greenblatt

We did.

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30.978 - 38.868 Jamie McLennan

Jerry. You realize his name's Fred, right? Oh, my God. Did I call him Jerry?

38.888 - 44.835 Bryan Hayes

Yes. You've been calling him Jerry the whole lunch as a bit. I thought you were joking.

45.136 - 61.478 Steve Greenblatt

He called Fred to start the lunch. Yes. And by the end of the lunch, you were calling him Jerry. Jerry. Call them Gary. And I swear to God, oh. Why didn't you guys say something? Because I was in disbelief staring at you.

61.519 - 78.443 Bryan Hayes

Let me lay this out, okay? Fred and Elizabeth are two of the great people we've ever come across. We had the great luxury of going for lunch with them today. Yes. And Fred, when I got there, Noodles and I walked in together. You were already sitting there. For half an hour. For half an hour.

78.463 - 86.853 Jamie McLennan

I got there very early. Yes. And me and Fred and Elizabeth, who I thought his name was Jerry. No, you pivoted his name.

Chapter 2: What is Matthew Knies' future with the Maple Leafs?

112.486 - 124.842 Bryan Hayes

I'm like, all right, we must have missed. Or you joked about, he said, I love Jerry's percentages. And you say, you know what, Fred, I'm going to call you Jerry now. It turns out you just thought his name was Jerry. It morphed from Jerry.

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124.822 - 136.337 Jamie McLennan

Fred into Gary into Jerry. I know, but the Jim Taddy rule is you have to correct me. As soon as I call him Jerry, you've got to say, oh, his name's Fred.

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136.357 - 150.976 Bryan Hayes

But I went out of my way to give you the, hey, Fred, let me ask you a question. Like I tried to throw it out there, and I thought it registered with you, which made it only make me feel even more confident. You had established as a joke you're going to call Fred Jerry.

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151.116 - 164.777 Jamie McLennan

Okay, so last question on this. When I left, did he? Why would you think his name was Jerry? Where did that come from?

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164.797 - 166.42 Steve Greenblatt

I thought it was a bitch. I swear.

166.54 - 174.032 Jamie McLennan

I don't know. I literally, my wires crossed. I thought his name was Jerry because a couple times I called him Jerry.

174.012 - 180.704 Bryan Hayes

I know you did. You went over the top to, like, let me tell you something, Jerry.

180.724 - 184.551 Steve Greenblatt

So O had to leave a little bit early to get home because he had stuff to take care of.

184.851 - 191.042 Jamie McLennan

No, but I want to know, Jamie, when I left, did he say, why is that guy calling me, Jerry?

Chapter 3: How does the Blackhawks' fourth overall pick affect their strategy?

266.027 - 275.202 Bryan Hayes

One of the greats. One of the all-time greats. And we extended. Because you extended invitations to future endeavors. Yes, you're taking. And meetups.

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275.222 - 297.664 Jamie McLennan

I really like the guy. I drive through Horseshoe Valley, and I know that's where Fred lives. I would stop in and have a coffee and talk sports with that guy. That's how much he made an impression on me. Absolutely great guy. He's old school, and I love him. I'm just so mortified. That I don't know why my wires were crossed. And I started belting out Jerry's to a guy that's name was Fred.

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297.805 - 300.291 Steve Greenblatt

I thought there was a Gary in there at one point.

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300.411 - 302.235 Bryan Hayes

I thought I heard a Gary as well.

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302.436 - 303.238 Steve Greenblatt

It was outrageous.

303.338 - 317.685 Bryan Hayes

I don't know what was going on with you. You were on your own program. You were talking to Jerry and Gary, and Noodles and I were talking to Elizabeth, who her daughter lives in Calgary. Yeah, we were talking about that. The Flames, and how about the Flames? They just made a trade.

317.765 - 336.206 Steve Greenblatt

I think that's a really good trade for Calgary because we were talking off air. Calgary's got nothing but a boatload of picks. You've got to start using them. They're getting to work there because they've got a new building coming. They've bottomed out. They've got to get to the next step. That Nemish player seems like he can play. Well, he went second overall.

336.446 - 339.755 Bryan Hayes

He was the second overall pick. Doesn't mean anything until you prove it in the NHL.

339.775 - 340.757 Steve Greenblatt

Until you can play, yes.

Chapter 4: Will Toronto make a deal involving Matthew Knies?

409.016 - 412.462 Steve Greenblatt

Yes, he does. Same thing. Calgary's got a lot of picks.

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412.782 - 414.546 Bryan Hayes

Chicago's got a lot of picks.

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414.566 - 415.868 Steve Greenblatt

Yeah, I saw that, you know.

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415.848 - 432.513 Bryan Hayes

They have their own pick, their fourth pick. But then they have, I want to say, pick 34, 36, and 42 or something. Chicago's got a lot of picks. And again, the nice stuff has been out there. And that's an interesting proposition.

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432.533 - 435.48 Steve Greenblatt

This won't go away, though. I would like it to go away.

435.72 - 455.791 Bryan Hayes

I was talking with Jonas about this. I think that's his name. I was calling him something else, but I'm pretty sure it's Jonas. After the show yesterday, we were discussing the idea of him going to Chicago, like Matthew Nyes, for the fourth overall pick. And I'm sure there would be more details and more depth to it. Right. But here's how I would present it.

455.811 - 461.32 Bryan Hayes

I'd ask you guys, because a lot of people are caught up in the, okay, where are you right now? What's going to help you this year?

461.52 - 461.741 Steve Greenblatt

Right.

462.562 - 481.554 Bryan Hayes

Let's say the fourth overall pick is on the table for Nyes, and that's kind of the crux of it. You know, there's other, maybe there's another pick or other players, but you're not getting like a stud young defenseman and the fourth overall pick for Matthew Nyes. Any Leaf fan that thinks you're getting that, I think you're delusional. They have a couple of really good young defensemen there.

Chapter 5: What is Chase Reid's outlook in the league?

563.451 - 568.575 Jamie McLennan

Yeah, yeah. Like the draft that Berkey went ahead and got both the Sedins right after each other.

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568.715 - 590.394 Bryan Hayes

Yeah, that's right. And, again, I get it. It would be counterintuitive to the idea of this year you're supposed to be productive and you want to turn this wagon around. Yes. And Nize is going to help you to do that. But if you, any time you think you can get a true bonafide number one defenseman for a winger. Yeah.

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590.714 - 591.896 Steve Greenblatt

So here's my question to you.

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591.936 - 594.258 Bryan Hayes

You're looking into doing that seriously.

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594.398 - 610.436 Steve Greenblatt

It comes back to what I posed on Friday because I missed the show yesterday. But what are the Leafs trying to accomplish here? Like, you sign Radish. To me, that says we're trying to make the playoffs here.

610.516 - 630.627 Jamie McLennan

That's what it is, Jamie. So it's like you can't have the no-plan plan where it's like, oh, we're trying to make the playoffs, and then the next day you're like, Oh, we can get this kid Chase Reed. Right. That's kind of the no-plan-plan, Hayes. You can't argue that. One day we want this, and then one day we're getting a defenseman that's going to be two or three years away.

631.348 - 634.153 Jamie McLennan

It's kind of all over the place, to be perfectly honest with you.

634.273 - 650.818 Steve Greenblatt

But, again, I want to wait until the finished product is from John Chyka. He might be wheeling and dealing. What's interesting for me, and this comes back to the Kachuk thing that happened yesterday, or we discussed it yesterday, is...

652.081 - 679.321 Steve Greenblatt

If you believe Austin Matthews, and by all accounts, Austin Matthews must have told him, I'm coming back, you don't do the radish deal unless Matthews is saying, I'm here. Go get better. Sure. Right? But if you believe that Chase Reed is going to help that process, then yes, you do it. But I don't know if it's at the cost of a 23-year-old power forward. That's the... The million-dollar question.

Chapter 6: What is the latest edition of Confirm or Deny about?

726.567 - 748.577 Bryan Hayes

Matthew Nyes, in my opinion, just doesn't meet that description. He's not a superstar. No, he's a very good... And I'm a fan of Matthew Nyes. This isn't like you've got to move him. That's not what I'm saying. McKenna's coming in, right? Like, McKenna's coming in, and for... Basically, my whole life, they have been seeking a number one defenseman.

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748.597 - 769.304 Bryan Hayes

Now, I can't guarantee you that's what's there at four. I don't know. I'm not sitting here saying I know Chase Reed or Verhoff or Albert Smith or Carls. Any of them are going to turn into that. I don't know. And it would take some stones to trust your defense. scouting department to tell you this is a guy you can't miss out.

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769.967 - 770.108 Steve Greenblatt

Right.

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770.329 - 781.427 Bryan Hayes

Gail McCarr went forth. I'm not saying that's what Reed is going to be, but he went forth. If I took you back in a time machine and said, would you trade that guy for the fourth pick?

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781.447 - 781.887 Steve Greenblatt

Yeah.

781.907 - 784.99 Bryan Hayes

But you're being competitive. What are you going to tell McKinnon? He wants to win right now.

785.17 - 788.113 Steve Greenblatt

Well, maybe that was Ryan O'Reilly at the time.

788.133 - 788.333 Bryan Hayes

Exactly.

788.353 - 789.214 Steve Greenblatt

Colorado going.

Chapter 7: What does William Eklund's trade to the Senators mean for both teams?

887.668 - 909.299 Jamie McLennan

And there's teams that are going to fall short and miss out. You look at the Ottawa Senators. There's some Sens fans. Like Sens Twitter thinks that... they can trade the ninth pick for a star player, like an all-star player. That doesn't happen. A team's not just saying, oh, okay, you want our all-star? Give us the ninth pick. That's not how it works.

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909.62 - 913.244 Jamie McLennan

And I think they're kind of thinking that that's what's going to happen.

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914.826 - 917.93 Bryan Hayes

Well, there's a lot of emotion in Ottawa right now.

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918.411 - 920.293 Jamie McLennan

Sure, and I understand that.

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920.753 - 945.45 Steve Greenblatt

I think Ottawa can use that currency. To get multiple players. Like those first rounders. Keep in mind, I think there is a scenario where you might get your wish. You can fill Brady Kachuk's spot with Tim Stutzla. Because Dylan Cousins can be your number one centerman. And Shane Pinto can be your number two. And Ridley Gregg can be your number three.

945.93 - 946.992 Jamie McLennan

Other way around.

947.377 - 949.199 Steve Greenblatt

You think Greg into Pinto?

950.38 - 951.161 Jamie McLennan

Pinto won.

951.221 - 952.863 Steve Greenblatt

Okay.

Chapter 8: How are teams preparing for potential trades in the NHL?

1026.369 - 1037.082 Steve Greenblatt

Well, that's another thing, too. Maybe they go and say, we'll overspend for Alex Tuck because he's a big body who can skate and be physical and he can score. And it sounds like, I don't know if they're close.

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1037.182 - 1039.865 Bryan Hayes

Probably going to free agency. Nothing guaranteed.

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1039.885 - 1058.454 Steve Greenblatt

I think you're going to see teams like we just said. Take a swing. You're not going to hit a home run on all of them, but if you are proactive, and again, I think there's a lot of teams in on the players that I mentioned and lots more. Zach Baranski, what's his deal there?

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1058.534 - 1082.457 Bryan Hayes

That's going to be a Quinn Hughes type of scenario, though. He just won the Norris. He's one of the 12 or 13 best players in the game. That's big game hunting. That's an extreme... you know, decision and what happens and, you know, who's in on the short list and who he's willing to sign with in the future. You know, I don't have an answer.

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1082.477 - 1092.796 Steve Greenblatt

I don't think there's a... I think there will be, obviously, a massive marketplace for him. I don't know there's a spot that he would go, I need to go to that organization right now.

1092.816 - 1116.211 Bryan Hayes

To guarantee to win right now? I mean, it just doesn't really exist. I mean, listen, I think if Hedman isn't going to play anymore in the future, I look at Tampa. They just let Radish go. If Hedman is leaning towards retirement, there's a massive... That's Zach Wierenski time. Step right in. We'll trade for you. We'll bring you in. I could see them lurking.

1116.532 - 1142.766 Bryan Hayes

The Dylan Larkin scenario is still unresolved at this point. It's still an outstanding trade request. I don't see Florida doing it. It's not going to happen now. Vegas, I think it's possible. I don't know what that would look like. But I could see Vegas possibly kicking tires. Some reports, maybe Dallas is where he wants to end up. We'll see. But that's still unresolved at this point.

1142.786 - 1153.998 Steve Greenblatt

The other thing that we can't rule out... Is Vegas, is it just a foregone conclusion that they're going to sign Rasmus Anderson? I don't think he played particularly amazing for them.

1154.098 - 1154.839 Bryan Hayes

No, he wasn't great.

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