Chapter 1: What were the Maple Leafs' performance issues against the Senators?
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He's having some technical issues out of the gate, but that's fine. Yeah, I know he gets that crummy hotel room out there. And who knows what goes on. Yeah. He's got the whole kind of hostage setup. He does. Everywhere. Whenever he's in Edmonton, it's particularly terrible, the background. Yeah. But he's not like me. There's just no art.
If I try fiddling around with a road show and I don't get JP or there's something wrong, I'm like, I've had to do it in Collingwood a bunch of times. I'm like, JP, done. Not doing it. It's no good for anybody, right? Well, that's the thing. Sometimes, you know, stuff pops up. We'll see if we can get noodles. I don't know. We do what we do. If we don't, we don't. What are you going to do? Yeah.
We need him back, though. We need something to kind of build on because... Canadian hockey fans? Not in a good place right now. Dude. Brucie Boudreaux. Bring back Brucie's positivity when he said five teams in Canada were going to make the playoffs. How ludicrous does that sound to you right now? Obviously... Nowhere close to accurate. Now, to be fair to Bruce on a couple of different levels.
One, he did rescind that like three weeks after the statement. That statement was like two or three months ago. And Bruce, he came on, I would say, early in the new year and said, that's enough. I rescind that. It's not five teams. He, I believe, said it would be somewhere closer to three. Three is not going to happen. Now, Ottawa is on a bit of a heater right now. Ottawa is playing well.
They looked very good the other night. They're going through Western Canada. That's why Noodles is out there. They're playing Edmonton tomorrow. Edmonton is in shambles right now. Marty Berron, congratulations because you called the trade for the goalies. You rated it. Do you know what? An F. And F. Yes. It's the same story every single loss. They lose 6-5. McDavid has three points.
Drysaddle is flying around like a heart candidate. And they just can't keep the puck out of their net. We do the coaching mood meter, I'd say, once a month on this show. We haven't done it in a while. I don't even know what it would look like right now. Marty St. Louis is in a completely different category, and they have some goaltending issues, too. There's a lot of concerns in Montreal.
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Chapter 2: How does Auston Matthews feel about the roster and fan reactions?
What are they going to do with that goaltending? Is Montembeau capable of taking them on a run? Dolbush had a great start. That's no longer the case. They called a fowler at one point. They're still trying to figure out what their goaltending is going to be because they believe they're going to the playoffs. I believe they're going to the playoffs. But can you go on a run with shaky goaltending?
It doesn't seem possible, especially in the East. Edmonton, I think, will still get in, but it's going to be more of a sweat. Outside of that, every other Canadian team is in shambles. Shambles. And again, Ottawa... They're playing much better recently. The reason they're in this position is because their goaltending was so horrendous through 50 games. They couldn't get a save.
It was awful goaltending, and then obviously Allmark, who wasn't playing well. Who was the worst goaltending in the league? Borderline the worst in the league. One of the two or three worst in the league. As a result, they're in the position they're in, and I don't think they have enough time to catch back up. But Vancouver, shambles. Worst in the league. Calgary. Third worst team in the league.
Winnipeg. Fourth worst team in the league. The Leafs. Probably the fifth worst team in the league. Yes, exactly. That's where it is right now. It is. And there's just bad vibes. It is bad vibes. What happens in the future and all this kind of stuff. For the ranting and raving about the gold medal and shaking hands with the president and say you hate the hockey players for doing that.
It would not shock me. If at the end of this season, Brady Kachuk and Austin Matthews said, that's probably enough for me. I'm not kidding you. Like, it would not shock me if both of them said, thanks, but no thanks. Maybe it's time to move on. And by the way, their durations for their teams, that's an eternity in sports. It's not like they've been there a couple years.
They've been there a long time, man. Austin Matthews has been here 10 years.
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Chapter 3: What insights does Pierre LeBrun provide on the Maple Leafs' future?
What's Brady Kachuk, seven or eight years in Ottawa? Yeah. Yeah, something like that. Yeah. It wouldn't shock me if both of them said, check, please. I have these lunatics running around making comments, figuring and wondering if they want to cheer me when I get acknowledged by the Jumbotron. Like, what are we doing here?
Well, Doogie was in the building on Saturday, and he said there were a lot of boos for Matthews. For what? For what? Well, see, my initial reaction, again, I was watching it, and it looked like there were a lot of cheers. And he did say there were a lot of cheers, too. But, and I said this on Friday, I thought when they initially announced them, like, captain of the U.S.
team, there'd be boos because the Americans beat Canada. What has been lost in all this, because it has...
Chapter 4: How are the Oilers planning to improve their roster?
gone off the rails and the White House has come involved and Trump and all that. There are a lot of Canadians that are just going to boo the U.S. because it's a rivalry and they lost the game. Like a lot of it is just people and their feelings because the states beat Canada.
And especially when you consider where we are right now, the relations between our country and their country, it's never been anything close. It's never been anything like this. There's so much vitriol. There's so much just... It's just muddy waters, man. There's a lot of people that are upset for a lot of different reasons.
But what is it when you walk into the hockey rink and you're captain of a team? Well, it's not, like I said last week, it's not his responsibility to consider the emotions of Canadians. He's an American citizen. He played for the U.S. He won and he celebrated. He's more than entitled to do that. Now, I would say the idea of completely...
Throwing off the direction of your career because of a four or five days of crazy emotion, that to me is also equally as crazy and ridiculous for both of them. Because cooler heads prevail, they will prevail. A lot of people are pissed off in Leafland for a lot of different reasons. Okay, and you could be pissed off at Austin Matthews, Brian, being a part of a team that he didn't get it done.
They couldn't get through. But maybe all of that, and then on top of it, maybe he's just like, maybe it's time for a change of scenery. He might. I know I went through that. I was like, I've been around here a long time, and you know me. I can kind of wear on people. They wear on me. And I was like, maybe it's time for a change. You don't say.
I find that impossible to believe that that would be true. We've been talking for three hours every day for ten years. Am I wearing on you? No, we're still all good. I think we're still moving along in a pretty good direction. It's always possible that something could change. It's not like I'm the rosiest guy in the world to deal with every day. No, you're not. I understand that.
But my thing is, I can't speak to Kachuk in that market. It's a little bit different, and they haven't had nearly as much success. They made the playoffs last year. It doesn't feel like they're going to make it this year. They're going to possibly make a run. They've been playing better recently, but I don't think they're going to make it.
So Brady and his story, a little bit different, different market, different history. But with Matthews, if this is his argument that, hey, around the Olympics,
celebration i didn't you know i heard took too much heat or i you know there were a couple of stupid articles written or whatever he's got people on podcasts going i hate him i can't believe he shook the press like it's and that's it's asinine behavior it is and listen if everyone's entitled to their viewpoint but i would like to believe austin matthews is not concerned with that either like he's got more on his plate than worrying what people are writing or saying on a podcast
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Chapter 5: What are the implications of the Maple Leafs becoming sellers?
Again, he's been here for 10 years. The idea that he's just going to uproot everything because of a week of emotion, I find that hard to believe. I don't think that's going to be the case.
Now, if his argument is, because this is going south quickly, if he came out at the end of the year and Matthews said, I want to win, I'm obsessed with winning, a Stanley Cup's the only thing that matters, and I don't think I can do it here, It'd be tough to argue against that.
Well, I'd be more concerned if he was just like, well, I hope we're good next year, but if it doesn't happen, I'm still a Maple Leaf and whatever. What kind of... Well, but at no point in his career, doesn't mean he's not doing it privately. Again, I don't know him privately. I don't know what he's saying behind closed doors.
I have never picked up on this burning intensity to win from him publicly. It's never been the McDavid, McKinnon. It's because he's never said anything like that. He's never looked enraged. Like on Saturday, he came out and said that that effort was embarrassing. That's about as harsh as he's ever been publicly. You know, in terms of
the analysis of his own game, the team's game, and where they're at. So I don't deny he burns to win. I'm sure he does. But I've never been of the impression it's like this obsession. Like with McDavid, I get the impression it's an obsession. If you told him, hey, you can go to this team and win a cup, and then you retire and you never play the game again, he'd probably say, I'll take it.
Like, I'm in. I need to win. I have to win. I don't get that impression from Matthews. I never have. Again, it doesn't mean it's not there, but publicly it hasn't been there. But if that's the argument, I can reason with it. The Leafs haven't won a cup in 60 years. They're a disaster right now. They've won two rounds since he's been here. Now he's got to factor into that.
But I can reason with that argument. I have to win, and I don't think it can be here. But if his argument is... One bad year I'm out, that's weak to me. Because I don't look at it like the way you phrase it, like, oh, whatever, gee golly, let's just keep playing. This guy has had nine years of support. He walked in and stepped right into the playoffs.
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Chapter 6: What challenges do Canadian teams face in the current season?
with really good players around him, a really insulated organization from Shanahan down to Lou, Dubas, Babcock. He has been in the playoffs every single year. He has had a pass to April 15th. You're playing game one every year of his career. And then one year it goes south, and it's been awful. And you pull the chute. Again, this is all hypothetical. We're speaking if that were to be the case.
I think that would be incredibly weak. I don't think that's a good sign of you being uber competitive or whatever. If your loyalty flips because of one bad season, the first really bad season you've had in your whole career, I would take issue with that. And I think Leaf fans would deserve to take issue with that. What if it's a combination of a bunch of different things, Brian?
And he actually, because when I talk to hockey people around the league, which is often, almost a daily basis, and they say, you know what they say? Man, that Leafs team's a bad team. They're an awful team right now. The way they played against Ottawa the other night, that's as bad as it gets. Horrendous. They got absolutely schooled. They have played three divisional rivals
And got their asses handed to them. Demolished three straight games. Yeah, and now it looks like it's set in and they don't really... They're done now. The U-Hauls are packed. They're on Expedia.ca.
Chapter 7: What are the potential trades for the Vancouver Canucks and Elias Pettersson?
Like, they're booking trips. Like, it could get miserable. I'm not going to compare it, but you remember, I just remember, like, so clearly, Tyler Bozak and JVR, who I love a lot, and I like them all. They're all great guys. And Phil... Their effort level when that 18-wheeler went off the cliff, I remember coming on here saying, they're not even trying. I just hope I can't watch that, man.
Well, it's 22 more games. 22 more games. And it is going to be painful, man. It's going to be painful. But again, this speaks to how rare the last nine years have been that the previous nine years, it was ramp-up time. You know, we're going to beat up on teams. Who are we getting at the deadline? Who are you getting at the deadline? Who are you getting in the first round? Can they win rounds?
Can they go on a cup run? So it's very unique. It's very different. You know, and Matthews and Nylander, they've never dealt with this. Riley was here prior to it, but he was so young, he wasn't playing a prominent role. You know, it's an interesting question. Like, I was asked about this over the weekend.
what they do in the future, because everyone's trying to project what the Leafs are going to do. Is Treleaven coming back? Is Berube coming back? Is the core going to be back? And I don't know what the core of this team is. I know Matthews and Nylander are a part of that, and I would suggest Nyes is, although he's had a really tough year. But they don't have a defenseman that's a core item.
I know Riley's been here his whole career. He's not a core piece for the future. Like, he's not a core, you're building block kind of guy that you're going to project three to five years of growth with. Are you talking about like a 1A D-man? Well, I'm just saying, like, you look at the haves. Like, I know it's like Suzuki, it's Caulfield, it's Demidov, and it's...
It's Hudson, it's Dobson, and you can pick your goalie. They may not have one they feel great about, but they might say Fowler's going to be that. Like this Fowler kid in the next three to five years will be the guy. You go to Ottawa, it's like I know it's Stutzla, it's Pinto, it's Kachuk, Bathurston, it's Sanderson, Shabbat, and probably Zub. And it's Allmark.
I can't get seven or eight guys on this team where I say that's a core that you're moving forward with. Dude, seven or eight. It's not even close.
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Chapter 8: What is the outlook for the upcoming NHL trade deadline?
You get to William Nylander and Austin Matthews and tell me what's after that. Yeah. John Tavares is 35 years old. Exactly. Like, with all due respect to John, he's a depth piece now. Well, that's what I couldn't figure out, and I was having this argument. And I love John Tavares. He's going to be a Hall of Fame player. But...
At 35 years old, Maple Leaf fans were like, they better get Johnny for four years at $9 million. And I'm like, first of all, four years? Why did you have to sign him for four years? I don't care what his price tag is. You didn't win with him. That's all I think about when all this stuff goes down is the idea of winning. You didn't win with him in his prime. So what?
You got to have him at a discount for four more years just to say he's here? I've never understood that. And people at the beginning of the year, they're like, Tavares is their best player. Do you watch the games? Do you watch them on a nightly basis? There's a lot of times where he's struggling to get around and make plays. A lot of them are. That's the thing. They all are at this point.
Dude, they're playing so bad right now. They all are. And people were giving it to me after the last game I did on the panel. I said, I can't find two guys that were playing tonight that deserve a regular shift. Because Duffy was asking me, who would you like load up a line? I'm like, load up a line? That's the problem.
I can't find two guys that deserve to be like, hey, I'm going to keep throwing you out there tonight. You're really humming right now. No one is doing that. They're playing awful. They are awful right now. They are in a bad, bad place. Dude, as bad as it gets. As bad as any team you look around. I don't know. Yeah. I mean, at this point, it's... It's a lost season. There's no way to sugarcoat it.
Dude, if you look, it doesn't seem like that long ago. The last preseason game, me, yourself, Jamie, and MJ were talking about how bad they looked in that last preseason game. We were like, they look slow. They can't get the pucks. They can't get it out. They are so bad. And for all you pencil necks out there, the metrics back it up. Defensively, they're horrendous.
They are as bad as it gets, and they have been all year. A lot of that is I do think personnel, they're struggling. Got to put some of it on coaching, too. My old man always told me, motivation and defensive systems has got to be on the coach. I 100% agree, and this is where it's difficult. Again, we don't know what's going to happen.
We don't know what they're going to do with the front office, with the coaching staff, with the players. But I do think there is a possible avenue where they're going to sell it to themselves that it was just a down year, things didn't go right, give us an opportunity to right the ship.
I have used the Blue Jay comparison in the past, and I know people don't want to hear it, but this time two years ago, it was all the same conversation. Get rid of Shapiro, get rid of Atkins, get rid of Schneider. These guys stink, and they didn't do that, and they turned things around. I'm telling you right now, that roster... no chance in hell deserves another kick at the can.
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