Page Fright: A Poetry Podcast
Episodes
118. Poetry as Empathy Engine w/ Mallory Tater
17 Apr 2026
Contributed by Lukas
Mallory Tater joins Page Fright to talk about her new poetry collection, Lockers are for Bearcats Only. Andrew's stoked about National Poetry Mont...
117. Making Life Come Alive w/ Christina Shah
02 Apr 2026
Contributed by Lukas
Christina Shah is here to discuss her debut full-length poetry collection, if: prey, then: huntress. Andrew's wondering about how to stop yapping ...
116. Don't Revisit Scrapped Poems w/ Kashayar "Kess" Mohammadi
12 Mar 2026
Contributed by Lukas
Kashayar "Kess" Mohammadi drops by to talk their latest poetry collection, The Book of Interruptions. Andrew asks about bringing new life to...
115. Salvaging Abandoned Poems w/ Joanna Streetly
26 Feb 2026
Contributed by Lukas
Joanna Streetly joins Andrew to talk her new poetry collection, All of Us Hidden. Andrew asks about staying curious in your poetry. It's a grea...
114. Best Canadian Poetry 2026 w/ Mary Dalton
27 Jan 2026
Contributed by Lukas
Mary Dalton joins Andrew to chat about editing this year's edition of Biblioasis' Best Canadian Poetry series. Andrew listens in to three read...
113. Why Do We Write Bird Poems? w/ Brian Bartlett
29 Dec 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Brian Bartlett joins the podcast LIVE at the Fraser Valley Writers' Festival in Abbotsford, BC, to chat about his new book, The Astonishing Room. ...
112. Accurate to a Feeling w/ Nick Thran
24 Nov 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Nick Thran joins the podcast LIVE at the Fraser Valley Writers' Festival in Abbotsford, BC, to chat about his new book Existing Music. Andrew wonders ...
111. The Other Mind in a Poem w/ Daniel Cowper
30 Oct 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Daniel Cowper returns to talk about his new novel in verse, Kingdom of the Clock. Andrew asks about writing long poems. It's a poetic chat!Daniel ...
110. Taking Unexpected Poetic Leaps w/ Arleen Paré
22 Sep 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Arleen Paré stops by to chat about her latest poetry collection, encrypted. Andrew asks about Coleridge and video games. It's a fun time!Arleen P...
109. Werewolves, Myth, and Manuscripts w/ Estlin McPhee
31 Aug 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Estlin McPhee returns to the podcast to chat about their debut collection, In Your Nature. Andrew asks about werewolves and community. It's a goo...
108. Connection and Community w/ Natalie Lim
18 Jul 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Natalie Lim is back with her debut poetry collection, Elegy for Opportunity! Andrew talks about capturing connection in poems. It's a great reunio...
107. Finding Useful Feedback w/ Tolu Oloruntoba
14 May 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Tolu Oloruntoba returns to chat about his third poetry collection, Unravel. Andrew asks about getting "good" feedback. It's a "good...
106. Towards a Final Form w/ Marc Perez
16 Apr 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Marc Perez comes on the show to talk about chapbooks, form, and his debut full-length poetry collection, Dayo. Andrew asks about finding the right for...
105. Getting Uncomfortable in Your Poems w/ MA|DE (Mark Laliberte and Jade Wallace)
19 Mar 2025
Contributed by Lukas
MA|DE (Mark Laliberte & Jade Wallace) pop by to talk about their debut collaborative full-length poetry collection, ZZOO. Andrew tries to wrap the...
104. Is Your Book Too Long? (w/ Annick MacAskill)
22 Feb 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Annick MacAskill is back to talk compiling her latest collection, Votive (Gaspereau Press). Andrew asks about book length and queer poems. It's a ...
103. "Best Canadian Poetry 2025" w/ ed. Aislinn Hunter & 4 Included Poets
28 Jan 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Aislinn Hunter joins Andrew to talk about editing Best Canadian Poetry 2025. Four featured poets read their poems from the anthology. Andrew asks abou...
102. When is a Poem Finished? w/ Rob Madden
23 Dec 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Rob Madden joins Andrew to discuss grief and masculinity, writing alongside photography, and his chapbook second hand smoke (Pinhole Poetry, 2024). It...
101. Bird Books and Building a Collection w/ Anita Lahey (LIVE!)
11 Dec 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Anita Lahey drops by to record an episode, live at the Fraser Valley Writer’s Festival! Andrew asks about birds, finding anthology editors, and Anit...
100. A Poetry Celebration! w/ Estlin McPhee, Kyle McKillop, Jane Shi, and Rob Taylor
18 Nov 2024
Contributed by Lukas
The 100th episode(!) of Page Fright, in which Andrew hosts a live reading featuring four poets (Estlin McPhee, Kyle McKillop, Jane Shi, and Rob Taylor...
99. Poetry as Utopia w/ Lauren Peat
11 Nov 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Lauren Peat comes onto the show to talk about her first poetry chapbook, Future Tense. Andrew asks about ending poems with questions. It's a curious c...
98. A Decade of Chapbooks w/ Jim Johnstone
22 Oct 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Jim Johnstone joins the show to discuss his new poetry anthology celebrating 10 years of Anstruther Press, The Anstruther Reader. Andrew asks about ch...
97. Cosmic Love Poems w/ Manahil Bandukwala
14 Oct 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Manahil Bandukwala pops into the Zoom studio to talk about her second poetry collection, Heliotropia. Andrew admits to never seeing Star Trek and plan...
96. Having Fun in Your Poems w/ Natasha Ramoutar
25 Sep 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Natasha Ramoutar is back to talk about her new poetry collection, Baby Cerberus. Andrew emphasizes the fun they've had writing lately. It's tr...
95. Queer Longing w/ Amanda Merpaw
29 Aug 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Amanda Merpaw drops in to talk about her debut poetry collection, Most of All the Wanting. Andrew asks about poetry as a queer art form. It's a gr...
94. Movement Poems w/ Hannah Siden
19 Aug 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Hannah Siden zooms in to discuss writing tips and movement poetry! Andrew talks about moving from the journal to a computer and back again. It's a...
93. Finding Hope in What's Heavy w/ Patrick Connors
12 Aug 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Patrick Connors joins the podcast to talk about his second poetry collection, The Long Defeat. Andrew asks about keeping things light. It's a wide...
92. Starting with an Ending w/ Matthew Walsh
29 Jul 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Matthew Walsh comes back on the podcast with a new book: Terrarium. Andrew re-learns how to start writing poems. It's a good one!--Matthew Walsh g...
91. Writing in New Directions w/ Kevin Spenst
12 Jul 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Kevin Spenst is back to talk about his latest poetry collection, A Bouquet Brought Back from Space. Andrew celebrates 5 years of Page Fright. Everyone...
90. Writing With & Considering Form w/ Rob Taylor
14 Jun 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Rob Taylor is back to talk about his new book, Weather. Rob Taylor is the author of five collections of poetry, including Strangers and The News, whi...
89. Grief and Strangers w/ Rhea Tregebov
29 May 2024
Contributed by Lukas
-- Rhea Tregebov is the acclaimed author of eight collections of poetry. Her most recent, Talking to Strangers, was published by Signal Editions/Véhi...
88. Trying to Get Funnier w/ Matt Rader
25 Apr 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Matt Rader returns to talk about his second poetry collection, Fine. Andrew wonders about the beauty in the struggle. Everybody leaves a bit lighter! ...
87. Elegies & Editing Tips w/ Kayla Czaga
13 Apr 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Kayla Czaga drops in to discuss her third full-length poetry collection, Midway. Andrew asks about elegies and editing together a manuscript. It's...
86. Best Canadian Poetry 2024 w/ Nicholas Bradley, Matt Rader, & Joanna Streetly
16 Feb 2024
Contributed by Lukas
THREE poets read and talk about their poems from Best Canadian Poetry 2024! Nicholas Bradley discusses an atmospheric river. Matt Rader explores heat ...
85. Bodies and Water w/ andrea bennett
30 Jan 2024
Contributed by Lukas
andrea bennett pops by to chat about their latest poetry collection, the berry takes the shape of the bloom. Andrew asks about bodies and gets too exc...
84. Writing in Bursts w/ Kit Roffey
19 Dec 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Kit Roffey jumps into the Zoom to chat about their first chapbook, Civilian of Dirt. Andrew mistakenly assumes Kit organizes readings because of thei...
83. Editing & Community w/ Chris Johnson
30 Nov 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Chris Johnson stops in to talk about their new chapbook, 320 Lines of Poetry. Andrew asks what it's like running a successful poetry journal. It&...
82. Authentic Writing w/ Chris Banks
20 Oct 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Chris Banks pops by to discuss his 7th poetry collection, Alternator. Andrew talks about being a writer who doesn't write. It's a lovely cha...
81. Comfort Media w/ Brandi Bird
31 Aug 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Brandi Bird stops by the virtual studio to talk about their debut poetry collection, The All + Flesh. Andrew relates their obsession with Mary Oliver...
80. The Poem's Responsibility w/ Tom Cull
25 Jul 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Tom Cull joins Andrew to reconnect and talk about his new poetry collection, Kill Your Starlings. Andrew asks about elegies and IKEA. It's a good ...
79. What Poetry Needs w/ Jen Currin
31 May 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Jen Currin and Andrew sit down to chat about Jen's new poetry collection, Trinity Street. Andrew talks the poetic and personal. It's a blast! ...
78. Psychogeography, Gender, and Love Poems w/ Jade Wallace
19 Apr 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Jade Wallace joins Andrew to discuss their debut full-length poetry collection, Love Is A Place But You Cannot Live There. Andrews learns about psycho...
77. Memory and Green Tea w/ Vivian (Xiao Wen) Li
31 Mar 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Vivian Li sits down to talk about her debut poetry chapbook, Someday I Promise, I'll Love You. Andrews asks Vivian about love poems and the role o...
76. Gender Poems, Music, and Lisping w/ Charlie Petch
28 Feb 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Charlie Petch joins the pod to talk about their debut poetry collection, Why I Was Late. Andrew talks about being non-binary and how it's impacted the...
75. Ekphrasis & Reflecting on Past Work w/ Yvonne Blomer
27 Jan 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Yvonne Blomer pops by to talk about her latest poetry collection, The Last Show on Earth. Andrew goes to the expert for water and nature poem advice. ...
74. Research, Spacing, and Ourselves w/ Cecily Nicholson
19 Dec 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Cecily Nicholson chats about her new poetry collection, Harrowings. Andrew asks Cecily about her research process and how to use a page. It's a fun ti...
73. A Poem Can Be A Vibe w/ Sanna Wani
23 Nov 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Sanna Wani joins Andrew to talk about her new poetry collection, My Grief, the Sun. Andrew talks to Sanna about grief and searching in poems. It's a b...
72. Water & Identity Poems w/ David Ly
21 Sep 2022
Contributed by Lukas
David Ly joins Andrew to talk about his new poetry collection, Dream of Me As Water. Andrew tells David he should work at an aquarium. It's a great ti...
Review: "If You Discover a Fire" by Shaun Robinson
06 Sep 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Andrew gives a short audio review of and reading from Shaun Robinson's If You Discover a Fire (Brick Books, 2020). ----- Listen to more episodes of Pa...
71. Monuments and the Speaker w/ Manahil Bandukwala
26 Aug 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Manahil Bandukwala joins Andrew to chat about her debut full-length poetry collection, MONUMENT. Andrew questions whether a speaker is always necessar...
Page Fright Reviews: "Swollening" by Jason Purcell
16 Aug 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Andrew begins a series of short audio reviews of poetry collections with a quick review of and reading from Jason Purcell's Swollening. ----- Listen t...
70. Myth and Memory w/ Annick MacAskill
14 Jul 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Annick MacAskill stops by the virtual studio to talk about her new book, Shadow Blight. Andrew asks Annick about applying myth to the personal. It's a...
69. Prose Poems and Reviewing w/ rob mclennan
16 Jun 2022
Contributed by Lukas
rob mclennan joins Andrew for a discussion of his new book of prose poems, the book of smaller. Andrew and rob chat about reviews and community. It's ...
68. Poems About Trauma w/ Carlie Blume
20 May 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Carlie Blume comes by the virtual studio to talk about her debut poetry collection, Gigglepuss. Andrew and Carlie talk trauma and poetry. It's an enri...
67. Sobriety, Rhyme, and Old Poems w/ Chris Banks
14 Apr 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Chris Banks drops by to chat about his new book of poetry, Deepfake Serenade. Andrew asks about avoiding stereotypical depictions of sobriety in a poe...
66. Poems & Identity w/ Natalie Lim
24 Mar 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Natalie Lim pops into the virtual studio to chat about her debut poetry chapbook, arrhythmia. Andrew mistakes a book of non-rhyming poems for a book o...
65. Adventurous Poems & Writing About Others w/ Ellie Sawatzky
25 Feb 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Ellie Sawatzky stops by Andrew's virtual studio to chat about her debut full-length poetry collection, None of This Belongs to Me. Andrew learns about...
64. Poetry and What Matters w/ Jaclyn Desforges
25 Jan 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Jaclyn Desforges joins Andrew to talk about her debut poetry collection, Danger Flower. Andrew asks Jaclyn about mental health writing. It's a blast! ...
63. Moments and Notes Apps w/ Nolan Natasha
22 Dec 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Nolan Natasha chats with Andrew about his poetry collection, I Can Hear You, Can You Hear Me? Andrew asks about beauty and handwriting poems. Happy ho...
62. Chapbook Party! w/ Rose Garden Press' Michelle Arnett & Michele Vanderwal
02 Dec 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Andrew is joined by Michele Vanderwal and Michelle Arnett from Rose Garden Press to talk about his new chapbook, Poems for Different Yous, and the oth...
61. "Best Canadian Poetry 2021" w/ FIVE Included Writers
17 Nov 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Souvankham Thammavongsa, Kayla Czaga, Ottavia Paluch, Jan Zwicky, and Tina Do each join Andrew for an interview about their involvement in Best Canadi...
60. Time, Bodies, and Found Objects w/ Síle Englert
23 Oct 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Síle Englert discusses her new (debut!) poetry collection, The Lost Time Accidents. Andrew wonders about bodies and movement. What a time! ----- List...
59. Staying Inspired w/ Tara Borin
29 Sep 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Tara Borin discusses their debut poetry collection, The Pit. Andrew asks Tara where to find inspiration. What a joy! ----- Listen to more episodes of ...
58. Literary Aspirations w/ Tolu Oloruntoba
29 Aug 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Tolu Oloruntoba talks poetry as science, what he aspires to in his work, and his debut poetry collection, The Junta of Happenstance. Andrew reveals th...
57. Bodies and Inheritance w/ Brandon Wint
03 Aug 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Brandon Wint discusses family history, spatial poetry, and his debut poetry collection, Divine Animal. Andrew shakes off the rust and interviews his f...
56. Finding Meaning in Mundanity w/ Michael Deibert
11 Jun 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Michael Deibert discusses being an emerging writer, reading practices, and his debut chapbook. Andrew talks to Michael about mundane images and fearin...
55. "Exhibitionist" w/ Molly Cross-Blanchard
28 May 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Molly Cross-Blanchard joins Andrew to discuss her debut poetry collection, Exhibitionist. Andrew talks to Molly about mental health and body image. It...
54. "Moldovan Hotel" w/ Leah Horlick
12 May 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Leah Horlick joins Andrew to discuss her latest poetry collection, Moldovan Hotel. Andrew talks to Leah about community in the pandemic. It's a deligh...
53. "Strangers" and Community w/ Rob Taylor
28 Apr 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Rob Taylor returns to talk about his latest poetry collection, Strangers. Andrew asks Rob about community and editing. It's a joy! ----- Listen t...
52. Hockey Bros and Religious Poems w/ Aidan Chafe
14 Apr 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Aidan Chafe returns to the pod to talk about his latest collection, Gospel Drunk. Andrew questions Aidan about hockey bros and James Joyce. It's ...
51. Mental Health Writing w/ Jen Sookfong Lee
31 Mar 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Jen Sookfong Lee joins Andrew to talk community, winter, and mental health. Andrew gets Jen's permission to put a book down after 30 pages. It's ...
50. Fractals and Reflecting w/ Shazia Hafiz Ramji
03 Mar 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Shazia Hafiz Ramji talks with Andrew about poetry and listening. Andrew learns what fractals are (thanks Shazia!) and reflects on fifty episodes ...
49. Poetic Activism w/ Stephen Collis
17 Feb 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Stephen Collis chats about his new poetry collection, A History of the Theories of Rain. Andrew interrogates Stephen's love for slashes and disli...
48. Community and Editing w/ Cole Nowicki
03 Feb 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Cole Nowicki jumps on the podcast to chat about a fine. collection, vol. I. Andrew talks about interdisciplinary art. It's a great day to listen...
47. Collaborative & Community Poems w/ Manahil Bandukwala
20 Jan 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Manahil Bandukwala discusses her and Conyer Clayton's new collaborative chapbook, "Sprawl." Andrew talks about different forms of sharing writing. It'...
46. Best Canadian Poetry 2020! w/ Marilyn Dumont
06 Jan 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Marilyn Dumont discusses editing Best Canadian Poetry 2020. Andrew talks about mentorship and pandemic reading. It's good stuff! ----- Listen to...
45. "Bittersweet" w/ Natasha Ramoutar
25 Nov 2020
Contributed by Lukas
Natasha Ramoutar discusses her poetry collection, Bittersweet. Andrew talks about light poems and mentorship. It's a joyous occasion! ----- List...
44. Chapbooks! w/ Aaron Schneider & Amy Mitchell of The /tƐmz/ Review
11 Nov 2020
Contributed by Lukas
Amy Mitchell and Aaron Schneider from The /tƐmz/ Review & 845 Press talk about their forthcoming chapbook titles. Andrew reads from his cha...
43. "Like a Boy but Not a Boy" w/ andrea bennett
28 Oct 2020
Contributed by Lukas
andrea bennett chats about her new essay collection, Like a Boy but Not a Boy. Andrew asks where essays come from. It's just an all around great...
42. "The Certainties" w/ Aislinn Hunter
14 Oct 2020
Contributed by Lukas
Aislinn Hunter discusses her novel, The Certainties. Andrew talks about Aislinn's novel being the first he's read in about a year. It's a blast!...
41. "The Outer Wards" w/ Sadiqa de Meijer
30 Sep 2020
Contributed by Lukas
Sadiqa de Meijer talks about her poetry collection, The Outer Wards. Andrew fumbles through questions and talks about Sadiqa's poem that he wrot...
40. "Render" w/ Sachiko Murakami
12 Sep 2020
Contributed by Lukas
Sachiko Murakami talks about their latest poetry collection, Render. Andrew discusses form and trying to figure out how to write with it. It's a...
39. Dildo Poems w/ Andy Verboom
05 Aug 2020
Contributed by Lukas
Andy Verboom discusses his new poetry collection, DBL. Andrew talks about Andy's early influence on him as an aspiring writer. It's a joyous occ...
38. "Murmurations" w/ Annick MacAskill
22 Jul 2020
Contributed by Lukas
Annick MacAskill discusses her new poetry collection, Murmurations. Andrew talks about how e.e. cummings made him leave business school. It's a ...
37. Collaborative Writing w/ Conyer Clayton
08 Jul 2020
Contributed by Lukas
Conyer Clayton discusses her new poetry collection, We Shed Our Skin Like Dynamite. Andrew asks Conyer about her awesome titles. It's a blast! ----- L...
36. "Hearts Amok" w/ Kevin Spenst
25 Jun 2020
Contributed by Lukas
Kevin Spenst returns to talk Hearts Amok: A Memoir in Verse. Andrew celebrates a year of Page Fright. It's a fun episode for all! ----- Listen to more...
35. Lost Lagoon Poems w/ Betsy Warland
10 Jun 2020
Contributed by Lukas
Betsy Warland discusses her new book of prose poems, Lost Lagoon / lost in thought. Andrew asks Betsy about how to find inspiration for a poem. It's a...
34. "Sweet Water" w/ Yvonne Blomer
27 May 2020
Contributed by Lukas
Yvonne Blomer comes on the show to discuss Sweet Water: Poems for the Watersheds. Andrew is intrigued by the task of editing a poetry anthology. It's ...
33. Potato Poems w/ Matthew Walsh
13 May 2020
Contributed by Lukas
Matthew Walsh discusses their book, These are not the potatoes of my youth. Andrew is blown away by Matthew's editing technique. It's delightful! ----...
32. "Junebat" and "Vanishing Monuments" w/ John Elizabeth Stintzi
29 Apr 2020
Contributed by Lukas
Friend of the show John Elizabeth Stintzi returns to discuss their new books, Vanishing Monuments and Junebat! Andrew talks about getting back into po...
31. Writing in Quarantine w/ Lauren Turner
22 Apr 2020
Contributed by Lukas
Lauren Turner talks poetry, quarantine, and The Only Card in a Deck of Knives. Andrew asks about editing practices. It's a joy. ----- Listen to more e...
30. Curtis LeBlanc: "Birding in the Glass Age of Isolation"
15 Apr 2020
Contributed by Lukas
Curtis LeBlanc talks poetry, working on a novel, and his new poetry book: Birding in the Glass Age of Isolation. Andrew picks a poem about Free Willy ...
29. Writing and Rejection w/ Dave Bidini
09 Apr 2020
Contributed by Lukas
Dave Bidini talks about his writing all across the world. Andrew is stoked to talk to the writer behind a song in his thesis. It's a great time for ev...
28. "Disfigured" w/ Amanda Leduc
01 Apr 2020
Contributed by Lukas
Amanda Leduc discusses her new book of essays, Disfigured. Andrew commends Amanda for pulling some really obscure fairy tales. Put this episode on whi...
27. David Ly Discusses "Mythical Man"
25 Mar 2020
Contributed by Lukas
David Ly returns to talk about his new book, Mythical Man. Andrew thinks it's way too funny that David's book is 69 pages. Curl up six feet away from ...
26. Rob Taylor
04 Mar 2020
Contributed by Lukas
Rob Taylor chats about writing, reading, and editing poetry. Andrew is still thinking about Rob's crab story (it's been weeks since recording). Call t...
25. Cara Nelissen
19 Feb 2020
Contributed by Lukas
Cara Nelissen talks about how she wrote a chapbook of poems while simultaneously working on a novel. Andrew gets inspired to collect playing cards. Th...
24. Kyla Jamieson
05 Feb 2020
Contributed by Lukas
Kyla Jamieson discusses writing poetry after a brain injury. Andrew gets a sneak peek at Kyla's forthcoming book. It's a really nice time. ----- Liste...
23. Best Canadian Poetry 2019
22 Jan 2020
Contributed by Lukas
Five poets answer each other's questions. Andrew is just excited to be there. It's the best, and they've got the book to prove it. ----- Listen to mor...
22. Adèle Barclay
08 Jan 2020
Contributed by Lukas
Adèle Barclay talks all things poetry. Andrew is stoked to talk about Adèle's new book. It's fun for all. ----- Listen to more episodes of Page Frig...
21. Chimedum Ohaegbu
01 Jan 2020
Contributed by Lukas
Chimedum Ohaegbu talks about trying out poetry. Andrew is excited to chat about different styles of writing. It's a great time all around. ----- Liste...