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Chapter 1: What is the main focus of Dave Smith's discussion on MAGA?
What's up? What's up, everybody? Welcome to a brand new episode of Part of the Problem. I am Dave Smith. I am rolling solo for this episode. Rob is out. I believe he's on his way to Denver, where we will all be tomorrow night. Me and Robbie Bernstein tomorrow, Friday and Saturday. Tomorrow, we are at the Comedy Works South.
And then Friday and Saturday, we're at the Comedy Works downtown in Denver, Colorado. This was one of...
as i've said a bunch of times this is one of my favorite weekends i've ever done last year denver comedy works is like a legendary club uh all of my friends have a bunch of them it's been like their favorite club in the world for for many years and last year was the first time i ever headlined a full weekend there and we sold out every show it was really great really really fun time uh so very much looking forward to coming back uh this year um getting on a plane tomorrow so
Hope to see some of you guys out there. All right. So comic tapes, smith.com, by the way, there's still tickets available. So go grab them. Okay. So I wanted for today's show to, I think the way I'm going to frame this is I want to have a conversation, although it'll be one sided for this hour, but perhaps this, this could serve as an invitation.
Like I would be interested if maybe like some people, some MAGA people, uh, maybe listen to what I have to say here and, uh, uh, give it a response if you want to. Um, Because I kind of want to almost have a conversation with MAGA, whatever exactly that means, whatever the MAGA movement is. I'm not sure exactly what it is at this point.
I think the best definition of it would be people who are still loyal to Donald Trump. I'm not a part of it. That has been made very clear over the last hundred days. I have had it made very clear to me that I am not a part of MAGA, if ever I was. Perhaps I never was. And I'm fine with that. I've never really cared about the the label MAGA.
And I, for most of the last decade, I haven't considered myself to be part of it. So anyway, but I would like to kind of talk to MAGA because we're in a very interesting moment right now. It really does feel like,
In some ways, and it's not clear, it's not clear exactly what's going to come out of this, but it does for the moment feel in some ways like in the same way that we would go, wow, think about how crazy it is that you went from, you know, election day 2024 through like, say, you know, Donald Trump's inauguration in January 2025.
where Donald Trump wins the popular vote and the youth and the UFC fighters are doing his dance and the culture is on his side. And, you know, he's got record high approval ratings and he's come back in with this whole new coalition and, you know, Donald Trump was at his height.
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Chapter 2: How has the MAGA movement evolved since Trump's presidency?
And then maybe the Iranians actually do agree to that. And they've just been bluffing this whole time. Or maybe then they say, hey, we never agreed to that. And the whole thing blows up. I mean, it's possible we're back at war. It's possible something comes out of this that we don't foresee right now. But... It really looks unlikely.
And in fact, Bloomberg just released what they claim they got a copy of the deal. I can't remember was there if theirs was 12 points, either it was Bloomberg had one and then CNN had one. One of them had a 12 point. One of them had a 14 point. There's a couple little differences in there, but it's basically everything we've been laying out.
It is basically just undeniably a complete surrender slash U.S. loss. There's just really no other way to look at it. And it's so obvious that the attempt of getting a base of Trump people to even spin it as anything else is... This just seems fruitless. It seems like that's just not going to happen. Everybody essentially is already admitting it.
And I got to say, it's almost a little bit surprising. I'll go through some of these clips, but it is a little bit surprising just for me just to go through social media and see people like...
Um, like Bacha, um, uh, Sargon, I always forget how to say her last name, but I have a clip of hers that we might play today, but seeing people like her and Will Chamberlain and, you know, all these guys go, oh yeah, no, this deal is terrible. This is a complete, we're just giving them everything they want. This is a loss. Um, and so anyway, that's kind of been interesting just to see them.
It was June. Oh, it was June 13th last year. Is that right? Oh, so we're over the one year anniversary. I'm sorry. I had that wrong. I thought it was later in, in June. Thank you, Natalie. Appreciate it.
Anyway, so it's been interesting to see those guys even kind of having to acknowledge that, okay, this... And so it's in this context that I think it's kind of interesting to have a conversation with MAGA. Or I guess if none of them are listening, then in that case, we're all just having a conversation about MAGA. And I'm fine with that, too. But...
there is something for those of us um who maybe even voted for donald trump or endorsed donald trump maybe even people who were like didn't vote or endorse for him but maybe were rooting for him or people who are even flirting with that but people broadly speaking who at one point might have in some way been part of this coalition that have really left in disgust over the last year and i think it's important that maybe we talk to some of those people who are still on the team and
I want to try in a way to almost have a good faith... Obviously, I don't mean to frame this as a conversation, a dialogue. It's me ranting. But I just mean what I'm trying to start here, what I'm trying to provoke would be some type of good faith discussion or some type of good faith back and forth. But also... I'm not particularly inclined to pull punches.
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Chapter 3: What are the implications of Trump's recent actions regarding foreign policy?
you might have to give a lot because, you know, no matter how, you know, you can sit there and pretend that we've devastated Iran and that's why they're desperate to make a deal. But when the deal is, we'll give you $325 billion, it doesn't really seem like they were that desperate. It seems like maybe the party offering $325 billion was a little bit more desperate.
And in the same sense that Donald Trump could sit there and say, um, you know, this war had 100% MAGA approval. Well, the reality is that it was the most unpopular war in American history. And MAGA is going to wear the bruises of celebrating that and supporting that. There's really no way to get around that.
And so I think it's important we can be honest and we can also maybe, now that things are being revealed a little bit more, we can think about What's best for the country and what's best for moving forward, not just with the MAGA movement, but with whatever is to follow it. Because really, however we like it, you know, Donald Trump is like 80.
midterm elections are a few months away the democrats are coming back in to to congress they're certainly going to take the house uh there's going to be impeachments and hearings and investigations and all this stuff for for two years and then donald trump's going to be gone from american political life so it's kind of worth um mentioning that now by the way uh just to mention
And this is something that I said for quite a while. And this was actually what I was very concerned about, the escalation trap. Even though I said the whole time, I think eventually Trump will do something like this. I did say I don't think he's going to escalate. I don't think we're going to get boots on the ground. I think eventually he'll quit because he doesn't have the stomach for that.
He knows the world economy and the American people don't either. But the... what i always said was the problem is that it's going to be self evidently a defeat and we're not he's not going to be able to spin this all right guys let's take a moment and thank our sponsor for today's show which is ultra pouches i love these guys very cool company if you don't
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Chapter 4: How are prominent figures reacting to Trump's foreign policy decisions?
Geez, what happened when we followed Mark Levin and Douglas Murray and Ben Shapiro's advice? What happened? Oh, yeah. Another catastrophe. So bad that we had to just concede. We had to just wave the white flag and pay them hundreds of billions of dollars to get them to stop. Again, we're not going to forget that.
But as we move forward here, it is important here to understand that this is the battle now. The battle is going to be over people attacking Donald Trump for making this move. Look, as bad as it is that Donald Trump failed in the way that he failed. He destroyed his presidency. It's over. There's not much to save. But it's still really important that we win this one. You know?
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Masachips.com slash Dave. Promo code Dave for 25% off your first order. All right, let's get back into the show. You know, like if you're in a hostage situation, I know people make fun of me for making these analogies and God damn it, I know they're not perfect, but they are useful. And so, you know, some of you guys, you make fun of me for them, but they are useful. There's a reason I do this.
But like in the sense, okay, if you were in a hostage situation and somebody has all, you know, and you're the negotiator, you're outside on the cell phone talking to him and you're like, please at least give us the women and children. You know, this guy's got a bank, a lot of people there. Even if he's already killed a few people, even if he's already done terrible things.
And this guy is going to get the chair, you know, whenever you get him out and he goes to trial or whatever. You still might be talking to him and you're like, hey, can you can you let the rest of the kids out? He goes, OK, I'll let some of the kids out. You still go. Thank you so much for that, dude. Like that was really huge because those are real kids and their lives are on the line right now.
OK, I'm not saying it's I'm not equating the two things. I'm just saying the reason I use the analogy is that as much as Donald Trump is fucked up, as furious as many of us may be with him, we still got a country here. You know, we still have a kid together. And the kid is the United States of America. This is the country that both of my little kids are going to grow up in.
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Chapter 5: What are the criticisms surrounding the recent war and its outcomes?
I care very much about the future of this. And it's very important that Donald Trump wins this fight. It's very important that we get this memorandum of understanding signed and we get out of this war. This is, I am not sure how much damage has already been done. I'm very concerned about that. But we were flirting with catastrophe.
And there's for no reason, for no reason other than Donald Trump's choosing for listening to the Israel lobby instead of people with common sense.
okay let's move to the uh the the batcha clip which i always i i do apologize if i'm saying her name wrong um which i i often do uh but um bacha ungar sargon is her name um she is i i know her we we debated she was a part of that debate with uh me and jake huger and um um, Dennis Prager and her. And, uh, and we all went out to dinner afterwards. She's really very nice person. Very lovely.
Although I could not disagree with her politics more, but, um, yeah, anyway. So she kind of in, in the spirit of checking in with MAGA, he, uh, kind of represents like kind of the lefty pro Zionist part of MAGA, uh, Like kind of a liberal, not lefty, I shouldn't say liberal, a liberal Zionist member of MAGA. And again, somebody who's been cheerleading President Trump for his entire second term.
Here were her thoughts on the war and or excuse me, on the memorandum.
This is actually exactly the same as the JCPOA, if not worse, because we're so close to victory. I mean, there has never been a nation as strong as the United States is right now. We are the world's greatest and only superpower, the strongest nation to ever exist. And we have been brought to our knees by a few minds. And as an American, I cannot stand that.
I cannot stand saying that sentence, but it is utterly true. And what's worse is exactly as Ben pointed out, they will never be weaker than they are now. They're about to get all their money back. And so in 60 days, they're gonna be even less likely to give us anything that we're asking for. I just wanna say one more thing. Nobody wanted this to end more than I did.
I cannot stand how broke Americans are right now. I've been using my show on News Nation every week to call for help for working class Americans because they voted for Trump because he promised to put money in their pockets and they are broke right now because of this war. I cannot stand that.
But there are a million ways the president could have helped them domestically that didn't involve the greatest superpower in the history of humanity being brought to its knees by a few minds. He could have given stimulus checks. That's what I suggested. He could have put controls on oil exports. We are a net exporter of oil and gas.
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Chapter 6: How does the podcast analyze the role of media in shaping public perception?
Obviously, we can blow a lot more of their shit up. But then there are these very tangible logistical questions that were obvious from the very beginning of this thing. Just incredibly obvious questions. questions like, how do you do regime change without a ground force? When has that ever happened? It's incredibly difficult.
In fact, I've heard several military experts say that it's never happened. And I would love to like question that. I don't know. I'd have to like go research on that. But has there ever been a purely from the air regime change accomplished? I mean, I know in Libya and Syria, we had some forces on the ground. And sure, we used Al Qaeda when convenient. But
Anyway, without now, of course, there's other questions about if you don't have a military occupation, how do you replace the regime after you change it? That's a pretty big one. And there's also major questions about, you know, right. Like, so if you have an IRGC with a couple hundred thousand members, how do you take that out from the skies? Okay, that's a pretty tough question.
That was pretty obvious. Okay, what about escalation dominance? What do we do if they touch all of our bases in the region? They've got a large stockpile of missiles. They can do that. What about the Strait? All they have to do is be able to plant a few mines, target a few boats before regular people who aren't members of the military don't want to risk their lives, right?
to go through this straight where they're being shot at. You have insurance companies that have ships with $50 billion worth of cargo on them who don't feel like insuring that when they might take a $50 billion loss if an Iranian drone hits that ship. Okay, that's a tangible problem. And it doesn't matter how well we spend a trillion dollars a year on our military.
Okay, but how do you solve that problem? None of them want to admit what is the obvious case here, which is that we got beat. You know, but all of them, and it's important for MAGA to understand this and understand what just happened here.
All of these guys are essentially saying something that really doesn't pass the smell test, that you should be able to look at and go, okay, there's a pretty big problem with what you're telling me here. You know, it reminds me of... If you guys remember back during COVID, me and Rob used to make this joke.
You know, it's sometimes you have all these arguments, but then you could just go to this like basic kind of logical like smell test. So when they were pushing the COVID vaccines, they were essentially saying that
covid is so deadly this this thing is so awful that we had to lock down the whole country because they were still supporting lockdowns you know we had to lock down the country because we had to slow the spread or whatever fight the flatten the curve whatever their dumb argument at the time was and um and so it's such a horrible um illness the germ is so dangerous that we had to shut down the entire world but now we have this cure
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Chapter 7: What counterarguments are presented regarding the Iran deal?
But because she is a moderate, very much by nature, she was kind and reasonable to J.D. Vance. She could have been a lot harsher on him. But just so we're clear... Miriam Adelson's favorite member of this administration, Marco Rubio, he's not being sent around to be the one who's claiming this is a huge victory. Now is he? No, J.D. Vance is the one who's supposed to take the fall for this.
And you'll see that it's already happening. The Hawks are blaming J.D. Vance for all this stuff. Anyway, let's play. Here is J.D. Vance on the Megyn Kelly show talking about everything that's going on.
Let's talk about what happened to the GOP base as a result of all this, because it's divided. I know you've experienced it yourself. I've experienced it, too. It's been sort of a sad, tumultuous, stressful time. It's much more fun, I think, for most of us who lean right or right-leaning independents to be fighting with the left, but it's been kind of civil war-y.
over on the conservative team since this whole thing got launched. And the non-interventionalist right feels very betrayed, very betrayed by it. Whether you agree with that they've been betrayed or not, Mr. Vice President, what do you say to those people?
Well, what I'd say to them is, one, I think you can walk through all the ways in which this has led to a good place for the United States of America. And I'd ask them not to sort of view this purely through the filter. I know a lot of these folks are frustrated with the role that Israel has in all this. We can talk about that.
But don't look at it from the lens of, you know, what is it that different people think about it? What do you think about it? Like, fundamentally, do you think... They're against it.
I've talked to a lot of them.
Let's pause it. Let's pause it for a second. Okay, listen, I don't like the role Israel's played in it. Let's imagine Israel played no role in it. There was no such thing as Israel. Let's say Donald Trump just did this. You launched a war of aggression, a war of choice against a nation in the middle of negotiations, in the most disgusting, dishonorable,
Pearl Harbor style sneak attack like a fucking coward, like a criminal. You launched a war against a country who had not attacked America over a civilian nuclear program, which was being monitored until you launched the last war. And what did it accomplish? You got 13 of our boys killed. You got. Hundreds of our boys and girls injured.
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