Chapter 1: What are Scott Horton's views on the current political climate regarding Trump?
what's up everybody welcome to a brand new episode of part of the problem um we got a good one for you today as it's always a great one when we have scott horton on the show um i don't know that there is at this point anyone who listens to my show who isn't already very familiar with scott and his work but if you're not you really should get familiar with him he's the best foreign policy guy in the country um his his books uh fool's errand and enough already and provoked
uh the first two being about the terror wars and the latter being about the uh proxy war in ukraine are just phenomenal i mean i've learned so much from them uh and of course he is um a long time uh managing editor over at antiwar.com which is i mean
I always sing the praises of that organization, but man, have they just been particularly invaluable lately when really nobody is... We'll get into it in the episode, but my God, the dereliction of duty of the corporate media, nothing that we're surprised about, but...
dave decamp and kyle anzalone those guys have just been phenomenal as usual and of course he has the scott the scott horton academy um which if you really want to become an expert in this thing and be able to uh if you want to be able to win every debate on this topic and really understand what's going on you gotta sign up um over there uh so scott thank you so much for coming on uh how's it going
Thanks, Dave. Good to be here. Thanks for that introduction. Also do two shows here on the YouTube. Scott Horton Show is my interview show and Provoked with Daryl Cooper that we do usually live on Friday nights, although not so much this month. But anyway, thanks for having me, man. I know. I'm sorry. It's a really long bio.
No, it's no problem. Listen, dude, your show and Provoked are phenomenal as well.
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Chapter 2: How does Scott Horton analyze the potential for military action in Iran?
And people really should go listen to both of those. Provoked, of course, your show with Daryl Cooper. And you guys always have like very insightful and thoughtful takes on what's going on.
um and obviously i wanted so just so uh note to the to the viewers our listeners um so i am headed off i'm gonna go i'm taking the family on vacation tomorrow i'm gonna be gone for a week i understand that is this is not the best timing um but we planned this out like six months ago so you know i don't if Donald Trump could start, you know, insane wars better timing. That'd be good.
But anyway, so I will, the members only episode will not be tomorrow. I will make all of that up next week and then we'll, we'll get back to it. But I wanted to make sure I got Scott in here before I left because, you know, there's a new war going on and we haven't had you on the show yet. And you're always the best at breaking these things down.
And particularly ruining your vacation, dude, what happened was they heard that I was moving. And so war now, and then you're just collateral damage in the thing.
I was, you were using me as a human shield of sorts, I feel. But this also, it's not just a, you know, it's not just that there's a new war on, but this is a war that really is... been your, you know, I mean, you've had several different areas of expertise and areas that you've really, you know, specialized in, but Iran is debatably the biggest one.
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Chapter 3: What historical context does Horton provide regarding U.S. involvement in Iran?
I mean, there's, even though your books, well, I mean, you know, enough already is actually a lot about Iran. And so there's, and you've been talking about this and debunking all of the war propaganda lies for decades at this point. And so I'm very interested to get your perspective on this. I just, before we get into that, I did want to just briefly
I wanted to talk about something very quickly and then we'll talk about around for the rest of the show. But I wanted to I got into like a little bit of a like a Twitter back and forth with Mehdi Hassan yesterday. And, you know, we ended up messaging each other like afterward and it was resolved amicably. And like, I, you know, I don't know. I just got enough. I got enough enemies and I'm fine.
fighting with enough people. There's enough people out there who hate me and want to ruin me and all this shit. They're like, I don't really want to be fighting with other people who are against this right now. Cause you know, like just doesn't seem to make any sense, but you know, there's this kind of dynamic. And I responded to him because it's, it's been a little bit bigger than just him.
Chapter 4: How does the episode address the consequences of regime change in foreign countries?
I've seen several people, uh, leftists, some libertarians who have really been
it kind of you know really uh let's say giving a hard time to me and other people who supported donald trump uh in in 24 and it's interesting to have you here for this because you did not support donald trump in 24 and so it's you know i'm curious to get your take on this i suppose but from my from my perspective it's not the easiest place to be to make this argument because it's like well look um
yeah, I was wrong to vote for Donald Trump. This does certainly seem worse than even just a standard administration. The calculation was wrong. That being said, I was making the point to many, which I, you know, to a lot of people, you know, I've gotten this from a kind of a group of the purest libertarians who are upset with me because I voted for Donald Trump.
And then you get this a lot from more like liberal or leftist types. One, insane chick in the Libertarian Party, who I'm embarrassed to have ever supported, tweeted to me. She goes, she said, you know, I was calling out Donald Trump and she said, you you voted for Donald Trump. Sit down. And you're like, so that's, I go, so that's what you'd have me do?
Libertarian lady, that would be your strategy, would have me in this moment, sit down and stop like, you know, convincing people that this is bad or something. I just find, well, look what I said to Mehdi, and I think this is fair and I'm not trying to knock the guy. We have a lot of areas of disagreement, but you know what?
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Chapter 5: What insights does Horton share about the relationship between the U.S. and Iran?
We have a lot of areas of agreement. And when Mehdi's on your side, he's a good, he's a pit bull. He's a good guy arguing, you know, against the war or whatever. But like, All I said is this, Scott, and tell me if you think this is fair.
When the anti-war left suddenly reemerged after me and you were in there, we were good friends and we were on the front lines of this information war all those years where they just didn't care, dude. Like Libya, Syria, Yemen, Somalia, me and you were losing our minds about this.
All of a sudden on Gaza, and I mean, there were good anti-war leftists all along, obviously, but the mass movement of leftists against the war came back. And guys like me and you all went, great. That's awesome that you're back. That's awesome that you're good on this most important issue. Because what really matters is like, there's a goddamn genocide going on.
We need as many people against this thing as we can get. And I never would have even thought to go to one of them to go, ha ha, you voted for Biden, dummy. Isn't there, sit down.
Chapter 6: What are the implications of Trump's foreign policy decisions discussed in the episode?
Isn't there egg on your face? Like you're somehow so stupid that you got duped or you're somehow culpable or something like that. And then you saw the guy calling me out. voted for Biden and calls out the genocide in Gaza.
He voted for the guy who started the genocide, but yet somehow now, anyway, I just wanted to make this point that it's like, guys, like, first off, this is stupid, but second of all, like, can we just, like, why wouldn't you want, this, by the way, this comes off of, and obviously I'm catching, his back because he's a close friend and he's my general. But Rogan came out and criticized the war.
And then, you know, people are like giving him shit because he supported Trump. And you're like, dude, he's the most influential guy in the country. You don't want the most influential guy in the country to be against this thing right now. Like, I just, I don't know, man, like what's, you know, you have cleaner hands in this than me. Cause obviously I'm biased here.
I voted for the guy and I kind of look bad for doing it. But what do you think about all of this?
Well, a few things.
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Chapter 7: How does the discussion reflect on past U.S. military interventions?
I mean, just on that last point, and this goes for you and for Rogan too, it's more important that y'all are former Trump supporters who changed your mind. That's how you're listed in this thing. Not that...
I like talked with you about your endorsement of Trump or whatever, but I think it does work out for the best that you're listed in a long list of names of people who supported him and avowedly. So, you know, endorsed him, not just voted for him, but endorsed him who then said, Oh man, but I'm not going with him down this road on whichever road it was.
And even including in his first year of his second term here. And so, you know, in a way, And if you understand my meaning here, I wish I had voted for him just so I could also be a former Trump supporter kind of thing. The same way as it would be better for my argument if I had ever been in the army or, you know, these kinds of things. You got to attack the right from the right.
Well, I'm a libertarian. I'm an Austinite, Dave. So I'm.
from austin but i'm also from texas and um so this is why i'm libertarian there's a lot of libertarians in this town a lot of people end up bad on everything in this town a lot of people end up good on everything but so as a austinite and as a texan i've always understood and sympathized with to some degree why anyone on the left would think the right is worse
and would support the left in defense against that, and vice versa.
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Chapter 8: What resources does Scott Horton recommend for understanding the situation in Iran?
It's so obvious, so many reasons, there's so many things bad about the left, why if anyone would have at least a 50-50 chance of deciding that, no, they're a right winger, and they've got to stand at least against those guys. And as politics, sorry, as... as Jess Raimondo said, politics is about who you hate.
And so like, why do we even have these giant coalitions of the left and the right in the first place that make up these parties? It's to keep the other guys out because they're worse. That's what it's all about. And so, and in fact, what was the choice in 2024? Was it about having Donald Trump or no president at all? That would have been nice. No, it was him or Kamala Harris.
And can you imagine just if the, The cultural and political left remained completely unchecked since 2009 all the way through because the first Trump term was no check on it. And they're getting completely out of control. And as I've said all along, quite publicly from the very beginning, I have rooted for Trump all three times. I can never cast my vote for him because of the Zionism.
It's just the most poison pill in America first. And I can just see right through the guy. As long as he's a Zionist, then he's taken us to war. And there's a lot of other things wrong with him, too. But that's his curse. That's something that he can never get out from under.
He might as well have Paul Wolfowitz as his chief of staff and secretary of defense and national security advisor and secretary of state, too. He's doing what they couldn't pull off, right? Yeah. What do people mean when they criticize Paul Wolfowitz? They're talking about Benjamin Netanyahu. That's who Paul Wolfowitz is, is Benjamin Netanyahu's agent in America, right?
So for those less familiar, Sharon was prime minister back then, but the neoconservatives in America were really closer to Netanyahu and his faction of Likud, which Sharon ended up leaving and creating his own party and leaving Likud to Netanyahu.
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