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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
what's up what's up everybody welcome to a brand new episode of part of the problem i am dave smith he is robbie the fire bernstein how are you sir i'm doing well how are you mr smith doing well doing doing well hanging in there uh as i said virus running through through my house but but doing okay i'll be okay by this weekend uh which is a big one we'll be out in uh denver at denver comedy works
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Very good. Very good. All right. So let's let's get into it. I mean, the the talk obviously is still the big deal. The big deal. The memorandum of understanding is. which will purportedly cease hostilities in this current war, this U.S.-Israeli war against Iran. And the deal has not, well, it hasn't been released yet, but, Rob, you know, listen.
Donald Trump, he's been shooting from the hip this entire war. You know that. He's been telling you what's going on. He's been giving you the latest. And he is telling you right now, the deal is going to be great. And you can see it. TBA. How are you feeling?
I want to see the fucking thing. It's just annoying. It's just annoying. We got to spend a whole week after all this, hey, war's over, war's over, war's over. And then you finally go, we're signing the deal. Oh, wait, we're going to re-sign it. You got the initial digital signing. We're not actually signing until Friday.
And here's none of the details about what's in it, but everything you hear is fake news because this is an excellent deal. So just let us see the thing.
Well, it's from everything. I'll say this, right? From everything that we've talked about since this war has started, everything that I've read about this, I think we've had a pretty good track record of kind of where we've been on this whole thing, and most importantly of all, why we oppose doing this to begin with. But...
Like, everything I've seen in the war, everything that's been hinted about this deal, everything that's been leaked about this deal, and all of the reactions by the people, you know, the various different camps, kind of tells you that... This is I mean, this is almost a surrender and not a surrender in the sense that you're surrendering your own country.
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Chapter 2: How is the Iran deal evolving amid U.S.-Israeli tensions?
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And all very important points. But this kind of leaves me back with what I'm saying. There's something very interesting about the dynamic here where... It's probably never been the case, any time I could think in my lifetime, where – again, I don't even like saying Israeli interests and U.S. interests because we're talking about how governments move.
So, like, not even in the interests of their people or their – but, like, the goals of Netanyahu and the goals of the Trump administration are clearly –
in direct contention with each other and it's more obvious than ever before that that's kind of what's being set up here i mean clearly like rob i would almost go even like a step further than what you said right so what we don't know right now what we know is that in the deal lebanon is covered as part of the ceasefire that much has kind of been agreed to and acknowledged even by donald trump and by all parties that like this lebanon thing is a part of it too
Okay, Rob, we know Israel's gonna keep attacking Lebanon. We know that's not gonna stop. So the only real question is in this deal, which Israel is not a part of, it's a deal between the US and Iran. The question is like, so what then? You know what I mean? The question is, okay, so do we guarantee that there's a ceasefire? But the question here is, there we go.
The question here is, if the deal says, There's a ceasefire in effect or whatever. And Israel isn't allowed to attack Lebanon. Does that mean that it's the U.S. responsibility for, you know, for us to rein in Israel? And if they do that, then we violated the deal. Or is the wording going to be something more like.
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Chapter 3: What are Trump's recent statements regarding Israel and Iran?
Man, if he's going all in on trying to get out of this thing, Rob, it's it's got to be something pretty juicy if they actually suck him back in.
Yeah, well, and it does seem to be. really appearing the extent by which they were hoping to drag him into the exact quagmire that they said that they weren't uh and how disappointed some of the hardliners are that donald trump didn't have the stones for a ground war and it's like guys what does the ground war even look like
Do you think you're initiating a draft and actually doing a World War II-style overthrow of a government? Did you think the American people were going to back that? How did you think that was going to play out? And it's almost incredible that that expectation was there and that there wasn't more of a plan than...
try and sucker donald trump into a situation where there's no choice but to initiate a ground war it doesn't seem like there was any other pathway to victory here and now they're upset that they lied him into what could have been a bigger quagmire and he realized oh i got suckered here and i can't win this thing yep and it's uh i will say man it's it's one of the things
like uh every every indication as i said earlier is that like oh wow donald trump this is a u.s loss like this is donald trump accepting defeat in this war um and man as you know you've seen the uh the israeli hardliners are really upset by this did you see mark levin was freaking out because uh it was reported that netanyahu has no idea what's in the deal
And he's like, how can we do this without telling our great friends and allies? You're telling me we work with the terrorists and keep in the dark the heroes or whatever. And it is something right, Rob, like.
just as you said that what made me think of this is you go like okay so you guys we worked out a deal with israel which was to launch this war and that turned out to be all wrong so yeah now we're gonna work out a deal to end this thing maybe we do keep them out of that part um Anyway, I thought, hmm, I'm debating who to go to.
You know, just since we were on that topic, let's go to John Podhoretz.
I do want to say I'm loving, I don't know if loving is the right word, but like in the New York Post and in other publications, I'm starting to see, hey, we abandoned the Iranian people again. And it's amazing that they're playing that card. They could care less about the Iranian people. But now that Donald Trump wants to leave, they're back to, well, what about the Iranian people?
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Chapter 4: How does J.D. Vance view the U.S. stance on Iran?
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This would have been incredible strategic analysis three months ago before we started this war. And in fact, you could have heard this exact strategic analysis right here where, hey, since we're not actually going to commit to a ground war, you're just going to end up in a worse situation. And you're actually going to make it more likely for Iran to go nuclear.
And you're actually going to showcase to American allies, hey, we do not have the strength to just bully people. And, hey, targeted strikes don't just work.
so kudos to this guy on his brilliant political analysis three months too late in the most weasley fashion because yeah if we weren't fully committed we shouldn't have done this and guess what being fully committed would also be worse amidst the options now walking away is better than moving forward and you're right he shouldn't have taken the half measures if he wasn't fully committed but going further deeper into this mess is not the better solution
And it's three months too late. It's exactly what we were saying at the beginning of this war. So thank you for affirming us for being right. And you should go talk to your entire clan of losers and liars who tried to make this into a bigger mess. You know what you guys tried to do.
And there will be, there will, that's right. That's right. And there will be this small contingency of Hawks who are going to argue, assuming this whole thing doesn't fall apart and we end up back in a wider war, which is also possible, but give it, assuming it doesn't, These guys are going to argue that we just didn't finish the job. We just didn't go far enough.
And I don't think this argument is going to work on just about anyone. But in case it is, we're going to, you know, do our best to tear it apart. But it's just not the case. And in the same way that, you know, it's like the as I described it weeks ago, the sunk cost fallacy of war.
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Chapter 5: What implications does the Iran deal have for U.S. foreign policy?
And you're kind of you are kind of half assing it to some attempt to some degree. There's something about war where you're always pretending that that it's necessary. But these wars aren't necessary. You know, there's something about it in the same way. Rob, if you remember during the war in Ukraine, they would always kind of pretend that like somehow this is a must win for Europe.
for the way if and that's why they would have to do this like they'll reconstitute the soviet union he'll take over poland next he'll take over all of europe because you got to feel like yo this is a must win when the truth is just that like it's not look ukraine lost the war we're all still fine it wasn't a must win he's not taking poland he's not reconstituting the soviet union like none of that actually ended up happening
um likewise when donald trump is just half-assing and pretending like i'm gonna launch a war but of course i'm not gonna send ground troops yeah it's true you can only do so much but again rob to your point we already knew from the the very beginning that there was no appetite for ground troops and the the other thing here is like why not Why is there not?
I mean, it sure is nice that John Podhoretz is comfortable with more U.S. soldiers dying, but the country is not. We're not prepared to make that sacrifice for Israel. And, you know, it's like there is something about the cavalier attitude to which he talks about, like, just have some courage, have some courage and get somebody else's kids killed. Any thoughts, Rob?
Well, you know, this war, not only was it sold on lies, it wasn't sold on coherent or good lies. And so if you're intelligent, you can just forecast at the outset of this thing, hey, can I actually pull off a full war?
Do I have the country afraid of this threat in a way that people are going to be willing to sacrifice their lives and they're so fearful of this enemy that they're going to go fight and people are going to volunteer to be in the military? And we could have told you no. And so if you know that up front, then don't launch the half measures.
And so for people who I'm sure he was one of them who was advocating for this war and hoping that the half measures would create a bigger mess that would force Donald Trump to do a full scale war that he didn't need to do or wanted to do in the country didn't want. Yeah, you didn't get your way. And that's why this was a mistake. This was bad strategy.
You could have forecasted all of this and you were very hopeful with other people's lives on behalf of Israel. And now you're turning around and going, oh, Donald Trump, he's a, he's a big old chicken. He just didn't finish the job. Okay. You know, you guys, you guys, you should have been able to forecast this and you should have known that this was a mistake.
And that's why more people should listen to us. We said it right at the beginning.
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Chapter 6: How are the media and public responding to the Iran deal?
I mean, they're as bad as any jihadist that you could imagine. I don't care if they, you know, whatever, you know, if they went to college and they wear suits and ties. I mean, they just advocate for death and destruction all the time. By the way, Rob, this was always what they would say about the war in Iraq. We just should have surged more. And the problem is that we didn't surge more.
The problem is we didn't have enough will. The problem with Syria was that we didn't flood more weapons in. The problem was it was always like we could have done it, but we just fell short. Still to this day, David Wormser talks about how if we had installed a Hashemite king, it would have worked in Iraq. And so it was the right move.
We just didn't, you know, the liberals got all weak in the knees and didn't follow through. But what they just can't acknowledge is the obvious reality. You know, it's like he's saying, hey, I was with Donald Trump launching this war, but you can't stop short of winning. But the obvious reality is that you can't win. How about that? Maybe you just couldn't win.
Maybe we didn't have the ability to do this. What is he really talking about here? Invade Iran? Boots on the ground? How many boots do you think we're going to need? Like the entire military? You know, I just I don't. The bottom line here, and he's going, oh, they got access to this $300 billion.
It's like, yeah, I mean, it looks like the only way Donald Trump could even bring them to the negotiating table was to basically say, I'll give you all this money. All right, guys, let's take a moment. to thank our sponsor for today's show, which is CrowdHealth. I've been telling you about CrowdHealth for many years. I love this company, thrilled to have them as a longtime sponsor.
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Chapter 7: What criticisms are being levied against Trump's handling of the situation?
You know what, Natalie? Pause this for a second. I'm sorry. I said the wrong one. Let's go to the why not release the text first, and then we'll do the Netanyahu one. It's the other... Yeah, this is the one I wanted to play first because this was really fun.
The text of the document. Why not release the text? Oh, I will. Why not release it before Friday? Well, because I... I'd like to get a formal setting first before we do that, but I have no problem with that. It's a great document. Here's what it says. Iran will never have a nuclear weapon. That's what it says. It won't have one to buy, to develop. They will not have a nuclear weapon.
And I would say that's about 99.9% of what I wanted because we couldn't let that happen. You couldn't let that happen. And they won't have a nuclear weapon. Now, in addition to that, the Strait is going to be open toll-free And it's toll-free beyond the 60 days. Somebody said, oh, it's toll-free for 60. No, no, it's toll-free, period. When it opens permanently, it'll be toll-free.
I want to congratulate our Navy because the naval blockade was unbelievable. But I will actually, I'll not only release it, I'll probably have a press conference and read it to you word by word so that the press covers it accurately. because it's a very important document.
It's a very important document, Rob. Then you will see it at a time to be announced.
I gave Iran everything they wanted. They might not even sign it. So I don't want to read it to you before they say no.
I mean, dude, he says, and then just to fall back on, I'll tell you what it says. It says that Iran will never get a nuclear weapon. And that's 99.7% of what I wanted. It's like, okay, that's what the JCPOA says. That's literally the start to the JCPOA. It's also with the non-proliferation treaty, what you signed on to. But okay, so that's 99.7% of what he wanted.
In addition to that, he gets the Strait of Hormuz open. So what you got is what we had before the war. That's what it's not even he's not even like, OK, Rob, right now there's some questions about what the Iranians are claiming versus what they actually get. Right. Because the Iranians claim they get that 12 billion right up front and like guaranteed access to the 300 billion.
So we'll see what happens with all that. Yeah. Donald Trump isn't even claiming anything else. What he's claiming we get is what we had before the war. That's what he's claiming. He's not even making any claims like that, you know, directly about anything else. And as you notice there, he doesn't go to enriched uranium or proxies or missiles or regime change or any of that.
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Chapter 8: What are the potential consequences of the Iran deal for the Middle East?
You know, you can do too much also. but we've had a very effective relationship. Without us, without the United States, there would be no Israel. Without me, there would be no Israel, because no other president was willing to do what I did. I've had a great relationship with Bibi, but now Bibi has to be more responsible with respect to Lebanon. Lebanon used to be a great country.
It was a country where you had professors, doctors, lawyers. The great intellect was in Lebanon. Now it's just terrible. I would say of all countries, they've been treated the worst. And they can't defend themselves. And they have Hezbollah, which is a problem for them. So no, I'm not happy with the way Israel has handled themselves with Lebanon and with Hezbollah.
They should have been able to do this yet faster. It just goes on forever. And when that happens, it throws a negative light on the big deal, and that's the deal with Iran. So when you ask me about Bibi, an unbelievable relationship. But Israel would have been blown up a long time ago had I not gotten involved.
There you go, Rob. An unbelievable relationship, but you'd be dead without me. Um, and, uh, yeah, Donald Trump somewhat critical of the way that, uh, um, BB Netanyahu has been conducting the war in Lebanon. Uh, yeah, I don't know. Any thoughts?
You got to love the endless counterfactuals. You guys already owe me your life. Quit complaining. You'd be dead if I hadn't done it. Same with our country, our country in Europe. Everyone would be the Iranians could have killed everybody, but only because Donald Trump's targeted strikes. And I guess them fearing him and wanting to restrain themselves. Are we alive?
And honestly, the fact that we ever criticized Donald Trump with all these counterfactuals on the table, it's on us. We should just realize that we'd all be dead right now. I, you know, COVID would have killed us too. If he hadn't gotten that, that, that vaccine out, it's just pure, it's just pure counterfactuals.
I guess if you want to throw up claims without any evidence to support them whatsoever, then yes, Donald Trump has already, already saved us. And so we should be more gracious for what he's done, even if we can't see it or understand it almost like God in a way.
I will say, hold on. I'm sending another clip to you, Natalie, here, because I think this was the one he said some more stuff on the same topic that I wanted. But yeah, there is something about it, man, Rob, where, you know, I mean, I guess, right. It's the moral of the the boy who cried wolf story. And it's the reason why a father tells his son that, like, your word is your bond.
You got to keep your word. It means something if you say something to someone. If you say, I'll be here at this time. If you say, I'll give you this. If you give me that, that you stick to it is because, well, on top of it being the right thing to do. It's also the moral of the boy who cried wolf is that you're going to need your word someday.
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