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British Imperial Expert: The Force Behind King Charles, Iran & Every War Since 1900 | PBD #788

29 Apr 2026

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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?

0.031 - 1.573 Susan Kokinda

I've never seen anything like this.

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2.254 - 2.915 Patrick Bet-David

What do you mean by that?

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4.096 - 9.603 Susan Kokinda

In terms of competence, coherence, singularity of purpose.

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11.085 - 20.297 Patrick Bet-David

How much of this comes down to money? How much of it comes down to power? And how much of it is, if you got money, you got the power anyway. So how do you view what they're solving for long term?

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21.979 - 27.726 Susan Kokinda

They really believe that we're no better than animals. They just happen to have bluer blood, so they get to run us.

27.993 - 31.798 Patrick Bet-David

What I'm trying to figure out is who's influencing who?

Chapter 2: How did Susan Kokinda become involved in political events like the RFK assassination?

31.818 - 34.382 Patrick Bet-David

Who's elevating who? Who has control over who?

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36.545 - 43.335 Susan Kokinda

These binaries are out there to keep you from looking at, again, what's generating the shadows on the wall.

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44.176 - 49.263 Patrick Bet-David

I have a very, very hard time thinking Britain has the same kind of control and influence like they did before.

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49.864 - 57.915 Susan Kokinda

I think for long term, it's even more evil. I mean, they use the money. They use the power. But ultimately, it comes down to an image of man.

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64.915 - 78.032 Patrick Bet-David

Today we have a special guest with us, Susan Kokinda from Promethean Action, whom I get text messages of from my sister saying, you have to see what she has to say. So Susan, it's great to have you here on the podcast.

79.034 - 80.035 Susan Kokinda

Thanks for having me.

80.235 - 94.534 Patrick Bet-David

So for some people who don't know, can we just qualify one thing that you're not, right? Because, you know, some people may look at you and say, is this cue from James Bond? Can you just qualify that you're not cue from James Bond? It's very important.

Chapter 3: What role does the British Empire play in modern geopolitics?

95.054 - 96.416 Susan Kokinda

I'm definitely not Q from James Bond.

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96.436 - 116.843 Patrick Bet-David

Okay, well, thank you for doing that because we don't want people to go out there and start saying, why is Pat talking to Q from James Bond? But your analysis, the way you break things down, very, very interesting, very different. And your story is very unique because you were – is it true that you were at RFK Seniors –

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116.823 - 136.427 Patrick Bet-David

campaign, you were working with them in 1968 and you were there when the assassination happened, working with the campaign, not physically there, but you were on the campaign as well as at the White House press pool at GW Hospital in 1981 after Ronald Reagan, the assassination attempt at the same hotel that the president just had the attempt a few days ago.

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136.887 - 141.052 Patrick Bet-David

Are those two true that you were there at those two events?

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141.072 - 159.389 Susan Kokinda

That's true. I was in San Francisco with the campaign in 1968. And then when the president was shot in 1981, I was covering a hearing on Capitol Hill. And all of a sudden I got the call, head over to GW Hospital and find out what's happening. So, yes, I was there for both.

159.789 - 173.391 Patrick Bet-David

Now, at the time, where were you at politically? What was your cause? Because, you know, was it I want to help America because of these three issues? What was important to you at the time, both in 68 as well as 81?

Chapter 4: How has Trump's approach to Iran changed the narrative?

174.755 - 194.215 Susan Kokinda

Really both was the same thing, which is that I sensed even at the young age, which I was then in 1968, I sensed that something had gone very wrong, obviously with the assassination of JFK, that there was a change in direction in the country. And I didn't understand what it was early,

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194.195 - 216.847 Susan Kokinda

But I knew there was just something that was going on that was taking us in a direction that was different, which had characterized especially the early JFK period, which was progress, which was science, which was technology. You know, I was a child of the space program. I wanted to be an astronaut. And somehow all of that began to change.

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216.887 - 238.002 Susan Kokinda

You began to see the emergence of the rock drug sex counterculture movement. which just seemed very strange to me. You know, this kind of hedonistic approach, as opposed to this sense that the nation has a mission, and you should devote yourself to a mission, not to what makes you feel good. So, you know, again, it was unformed for a while.

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239.063 - 263.359 Susan Kokinda

But then as I become more politically attuned and astute, you know, I began to dig more deeply into into what is causing this. And by the time I was in Washington, D.C. in 1981, it was pretty clear that there was a deeper historical fight going on than I think most people were aware of. And I think they are now with Donald Trump.

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Chapter 5: What are the implications of the British financial system on global oil prices?

263.419 - 271.651 Susan Kokinda

Now you see the globalists. Now you see that it's more than the newspaper headlines. It's more than the way the mainstream media portrays things.

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271.671 - 273.814 Patrick Bet-David

Susan, what's different and what's the same?

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276.005 - 277.847 Susan Kokinda

From when? What's different?

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277.947 - 287.478 Patrick Bet-David

Give me both of them from 68, 81. What's different from today with President Trump, with the three different assassination attempts he's had in 68 and in 81?

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289.36 - 305.064 Susan Kokinda

Very, very different. I mean, because look, the MAGA movement has gone through a series, shall we say, of walls of fire. You know, they went through COVID. They went through the stolen election. They went through J6. They went through the Butler assassination.

305.525 - 317.158 Susan Kokinda

I think there's a layer of the American population which has really grown up, which is increasingly looking behind the curtain and saying, this stuff just isn't random.

Chapter 6: How does the City of London influence American politics?

317.599 - 339.984 Susan Kokinda

It's like lone assassins. I mean, give me a break. People are ready to dive more deeply into it. At one of my friends that I do podcasts with, Blaine Holt says, you know, if we were talking about the things we're talking about today, people would be putting, back then, people would be putting tinfoil hats on us.

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340.705 - 361.515 Susan Kokinda

But now you've got millions, if not tens of millions of people thinking more deeply about what is actually driving these forces. And again, you want to make the comparison. Look at the comparison between how people have to live today and how people lived, say, in the middle 1960s.

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362.016 - 382.557 Susan Kokinda

In the middle 1960s, a blue collar income, like here in Detroit, could raise a family of five or six comfortably, one income, and have the confidence that your children would have a better life than you did if they worked hard. You know, what have we gone through since NAFTA,

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382.857 - 412.425 Susan Kokinda

since the 2008 bailouts and everything that comes with that globalist system, you need three or four incomes and you still can't make ends meet. You're giving half your income to daycare because mom has to work two jobs and dad has to work three jobs. And I think the support for Donald Trump, especially his recorded victories in 2016 and 2024 were a very clear response

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from a broad swath of the American population.

Chapter 7: What historical events connect the British Empire to the current political climate?

415.578 - 436.606 Susan Kokinda

including people who didn't used to vote Republican, like blue collar workers here in Michigan, who said, I don't wanna live like this any longer. I want that world where you've got progress, where you've got stability, where you've got opportunity and you don't have to scramble like a rat to figure out how to get to the end of the maze.

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437.127 - 463.905 Susan Kokinda

So I think that's sort of the foundation of the fact that that then opens a lot of people's minds to the fact that there's a bigger picture here. And I always go back to a quote from Scott Besson, where he gave an interview about, it was actually about a year ago. And he said, look, the Democratic Party strategy is to compensate the loser. He said, but I don't think the lower 50% are losers.

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464.586 - 490.523 Susan Kokinda

I think they're winners, but the system is broken and we're going to fix the system. And I think that's extremely important because once people realize that it's systemic, the problems that have ruined their lives or made their lives incredibly difficult, it's an entire system. It's not their fault. It's an entire system. And this administration is committed to changing it.

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490.503 - 501.817 Susan Kokinda

So it creates a different kind of environment, I think, where people can think more deeply. Okay, well, what was wrong with the old system? And what is it that President Trump is trying to do?

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Chapter 8: What future scenarios does the guest predict for the US and global power dynamics?

502.378 - 523.294 Susan Kokinda

That's what we do at Promethean Action. We try and sort of translate for people. Hey, here's something that looks new. It's frankly not. It used to be called the American system. But here's what the president is doing. And it actually is transformational. And maybe you need to calm down and hold on while this transformation takes place.

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523.915 - 545.281 Patrick Bet-David

Now, a question for you that's very interesting when you're breaking that down, and I want to go a little bit deeper into that as well, but a lot of times today, if you were to look at different podcasters or influencers, if you watch mainstream media, the enemy is going to be You know, China or Qatar or Russia, right? That's going to be the enemy at the time. Not even Qatar.

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545.301 - 568.425 Patrick Bet-David

It's more going to be China or Russia. If you look at podcasters, streamers, independent content creators, you will hear Israel and you'll hear Qatar. But when you listen to you, you say Britain. Even one of the videos you recently did, you said the hidden hand behind Trump's assassination attempt, and it goes to Britain. And no one is saying that.

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568.566 - 576.855 Patrick Bet-David

So nobody is even talking about Britain, but you are. Tell us why Britain? Why are you thinking Britain's behind the third assassination attempt?

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578.05 - 589.892 Susan Kokinda

Well, if you actually look at the history of assassination attempts in the United States, and we actually have an e-book on the Promethean Action website, which is entitled, It is the British Who Murder Our Presidents.

589.912 - 607.456 Susan Kokinda

And if you look at President Trump's comments after the assassination, both in the press briefing and then in the outtakes from the 60 Minutes show, you know, he says it's only consequential precedence. who get assassinated or there are attempts. And he cites Abraham Lincoln and he cites William McKinley.

607.937 - 632.622 Susan Kokinda

And that's extremely important because those are the probably the most important American system presidents in our history. Now, why do I say that when you ask me about the British? Because if you look at the 19th century and, you know, our own, the the decades of our own founding, there were two systems in the world. And it wasn't capitalism or communism.

633.003 - 659.847 Susan Kokinda

Those phrases didn't even come along till Karl Marx. The two systems in the world were the American system versus the British imperial system. And the British imperial system was based on power, money, perpetual wars, controlling resources, keeping countries backward so that they could extract raw materials or whatever from them was based on free trade.

660.434 - 684.978 Susan Kokinda

And the American system was based on a different set of principles, which is that your economy is not measured by money. Your economy is measured by what are you producing? Are you advancing? Is your population getting healthier? Is it getting more productive? Is it getting more prosperous? Does it have more opportunities? And is that a durable policy that is going to continue in the future?

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