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SpaceX IPO: Markets, Morals, and What It Means for You

12 Jun 2026

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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?

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When it comes to home improvement, even the most experienced DIYer has a limit.

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I'm not going to come in here with the blowtorch and get it hot and solder and put the copper pipes.

84.702 - 85.263 Kara Swisher

I'm not doing it.

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I call it very nice man to handle it.

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When to call the experts and when to do it yourself. That's this week on Explain It To Me. Find new episodes Sundays wherever you get your podcasts.

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By the way, she'd slide into my DMs faster than she'd slide into your DMs. That is correct. That is 100% correct. Hi, everyone. This is Pivot from the Vox Media Podcast Network. I'm Cara Swisher. And I'm Scott Galloway. Scott the Knicks. Stevie Knicks. Taylor Swift brought back balance to the universe. What? What are you talking about? I don't understand. What am I talking about?

Chapter 2: What are the implications of SpaceX's IPO for investors?

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than Elon Musk, other than Sam Altman. This sets the tone for the next couple IPOs. If this comes out really strong, these guys are going to be able to come out and say, look at our numbers versus SpaceX, and you were willing to buy in at 100 times. OpenAI and Anthropic are going to look like value stocks compared to SpaceX if SpaceX holds up. Yeah. Yeah, if it holds up, if there's enough money.

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And in the case of OpenAI and Anthropic, especially as it relates to a retail investor, those are companies that people actually could say they know and they see more than they do SpaceX. That's a good point. All right, one last thing. Inflation was up 4.2% annually in May, the highest in three years.

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Much of the surge came from the increase in oil prices, obviously, which risen 35% in the months since U.S. and Israel attacked Iran. But fear not, President Trump is feeling optimistic about the situation.

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He likes it.

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Let's listen to a clip.

1396.184 - 1405.882 Stephanie Ruhle

Are you concerned, Mr. President, about the latest inflation number which came out this morning? No, I love it. The numbers were great. You know what I really love? I love the inflation.

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Okay. How much does he love inflation? Both of you. First you, Stephanie. How much would it rise before he started to not love it so much? Well, two things like as somebody who spent his life deeply in debt, I guess he could say, yes, inflation works for me. If you put it in full context or when he tried to do a cleanup later, he's basically saying inflation is not bad.

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Think about where it could have been. Right. People thought oil was going to be two hundred dollars a barrel. Oh, but the fact of the matter is. And he said just this week, like, listen, gas prices were really high when Biden was in office, which was the case when Russia first invaded Ukraine. But guess what?

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Those high prices and inflation, I would say, were the fundamental reasons why Joe Biden and subsequently Kamala Harris didn't win the election. Donald Trump promised to lower prices day one. He obviously hasn't done that.

Chapter 3: How is Elon Musk's influence shaping the IPO market?

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So which of all the IPOs, which one would you buy into? And are you worried about the stock market? Listen, I've been saying I've been worried about the stock market for quite some time. And if you talk to CEOs that are not the Magnificent Seven or that run companies that are impacted by tariffs or mass deportation, those companies are not booming. They are struggling.

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They can't walk into the White House and offer Donald Trump money. a plane, or God only knows what. It's not so easy for them. So I think under the hood, things aren't great for lots of companies. But honestly, I'm not betting against the stock market because the only way it's been going is up. And a current appetite for AI, to me, it might be fragile, but it's big. It's big. All right.

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Which one would you buy? It's on a plate in front of you. If I was hanging my morals out the window, I'd buy all of them. Okay. All right, then. There you go. All right. Thank you, Stephanie. And everyone be sure to watch her new MS Now show. I'm going to yell it. Money, power, politics. Weekdays at 9 a.m. She's going to be getting up early to give us the lowdown on everything.

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Tell us what this move is about. What is the situation with MPP? I think we need a great big morning show. I think that especially, obviously, we cover politics, we cover current events, but the economy is the number one thing that people vote on. Tomorrow, as we talk about the SpaceX IPO, we're going to have a newly minted trillionaire.

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We are 16 years out from Citizens United and have more money going into politics than ever. And not just politics because, hey, I like this candidate. Politics because it's directly impacting policy, not to mention the gargantuan grift and corruption under our nose right now. I couldn't cover all that in one hour. I thought it was important that we covered it. And we covered it in the morning.

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for two hours and in a way that we're sort of setting the tone for what we cover here, because it's not just about following Trump and the crazy thing he's saying today. We're fundamentally changing potentially the way our economy works, the way capitalism works. And I think we need to cover it in a comprehensive way. And you guys know this as well as I do.

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The way that business news has traditionally been covered, it's business news covered for an audience that invests in the markets. And when CEOs go on TV, they're not necessarily giving their worldview. They're talking about specific information about their companies that's going to impact their earnings report and their stock performance that day.

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We need to have much bigger and broader conversations than that. And that's what we're hoping to do. At 9 in the morning, too. So you're on after Morning Joe. So Morning Joe sort of yammers on for a long time about politics mostly. So you're going to come in with a real hard-nosed show in the morning, essentially.

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Yes, but also – I mean, yes, at 9 in the morning, but I also think – and you guys know this. I actually just talked about this in an interview the other day. I think that when people watch TV – yes, people watch live TV, but it's more you watch the show that you want to watch. And if you make an important show that matters, it doesn't actually – if Landman is your favorite show –

Chapter 4: What moral dilemmas arise from SpaceX's valuation?

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Not just Scott. Not just Scott. By the way, Stephanie, you I don't know if you this is very much related to what you're talking about. We were talking about Taylor Swift. And I don't know if you guys heard, but all of her exes are getting together and collaborating on an album. And it's going to be called Maybe She's the Problem. Oh my God, she saved the Knicks. Don't, don't, don't listen to him.

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Stephanie appreciates that. Don't answer the question. Stephanie appreciates that. By the way, let's divert from the news. When Stephanie calls me, I'm both excited and scared because typically her calls start with, typically they're not excited when her calls start with, I think you're really fucking up. Or, I'm worried about you. It's like, whenever she calls, I'm like, uh-oh.

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This is either going to be very good or very bad. Okay, you know what? That's called a person who doesn't waste time, who's an actual friend.

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1899.201 - 1901.103 Kara Swisher

It's called a friend. No, you're a friend.

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I called Scott on a personal issue the other day. And when I started the call, I said, let me get to somewhere private. And he immediately said, are you getting a divorce? Oh, my God. All right.

1911.434 - 1912.596 Kara Swisher

No, I didn't. That's a lie.

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I said, wait till the kids are gone. Wait till the kids are out of the house. It was a divorce. I was calling Scott for some parenting. I was calling for actual parenting advice from Scott, which he is fantastic at when it comes to boys. And his immediate response before, I just said, let me get to somewhere where no one else in the family could hear me.

1931.209 - 1941.963 Scott Galloway

Wait till the kids are out of the house was his response. Thanks, Scott. Okay. And then he proceeded to give me incredible advice. May I just say, I have two fine sons. You might.

1942.283 - 1942.623 Kara Swisher

Yes.

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