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Pivot

Starmer Resigns, Reflecting Pool Fiasco, and Amazon Dumps OpenAI Movie

23 Jun 2026

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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?

0.571 - 19.735 Kara Swisher

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19.755 - 40.956 Kara Swisher

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43.805 - 62.309 Scott Galloway

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76.34 - 104.111 Randa Abdel-Fattah

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113.083 - 118.21 Scott Galloway

Turn on your cameras. Are the producers laughing? That's my litmus test. Or do they have their head in their hands?

120.772 - 125.219 Kara Swisher

Hi, everyone. This is Pivot from New York Magazine and the Vox Media Podcast Network. I'm Cara Swisher.

125.76 - 127.622 Scott Galloway

Bonsoir, Cara.

Chapter 2: What did Trump say about the Lincoln Memorial Reflecting Pool?

1452.291 - 1472.749 Kara Swisher

This is so strange. Again... I'm sorry, this guy's lost his mind. After Trump claimed Maloney begged him for a photo of last week's G7 summit in France, Maloney responded with a video on Instagram, which was quite remarkable, calling Trump's claims totally fabricated and saying, Italy and I never beg.

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1472.729 - 1489.331 Kara Swisher

She also accused Trump of being more accommodating to the enemies of the West than his own allies. Trump then doubled down, saying Maloney is doing poorly in Italy with her level of popularity, which she fired back. My popularity is none of your concern. I suggest you focus on yours, pointing to his increasingly lowering popularity.

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1490.732 - 1513.984 Kara Swisher

Boy, this woman, even though, let's be clear, she's anti-gay marriage, she's anti-trans, she's anti-immigrant, she's Marjorie Taylor Greene, essentially. This is the European version of her name. And at the same time, I was like, go Georgia. Like, it was kind of interesting that he continues, again, The sign of someone who is having some cognitive problems, it seemed like to me.

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1514.284 - 1532.217 Kara Swisher

She's always been like this. He's always been an asshole, but not this much of an asshole. And she just took it to him, which I found really interesting. I mean, obviously it helps her in Italy because he's not popular there and he's not popular anywhere in Europe now. And they were tight as ticks, if you recall, you know.

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1532.197 - 1563.398 Scott Galloway

But this is, again, greatness is in the agency of others. European countries have been our strongest allies. We share same values, same democracies. We've worked together. The post-World War II world was largely shaped by America and European values. Trump decides, again, he's figured out a way to manage to feud with and alienate allies while simultaneously praising adversaries.

1564.7 - 1583.313 Scott Galloway

We've spent 80 years developing these alliances and Trump treats them like some fantasy football league. Maloney, to her credit, her popularity is actually greater than most Western leaders. And then he decides to pick a fight with one of the few European leaders who actually likes him.

1583.333 - 1587.111 Kara Swisher

She went at him on the Pope, too. She didn't much like his comments on the Pope, either.

1587.395 - 1598.416 Scott Galloway

Yeah, well, I mean, come on. Criticizing the Pope is like if someone... Not in Italy. In Italy? You just don't do... You don't do that. None of this makes any sense, Cara. Doesn't make any sense. None of it.

1598.797 - 1602.845 Kara Swisher

I believe her. Believe the woman. I totally believe her.

Chapter 3: Why did Keir Starmer resign as UK's Prime Minister?

3784.137 - 3787.121 Scott Galloway

Are the producers laughing? That's my list. No, no, it's not.

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3787.161 - 3812.167 Kara Swisher

Afterwards, I'll go, Scott, do we really want to do this? And we're going to. So that's the way that's that's where Lara goes like that. That's the voice. Anyway, I will see you in person at live. We're going to have lots of people there. It'll be fun. I think it is sold out. We are and I am also doing a live interview with Jim Bankoff and Meredith Levian. from the New York Times. Oh, Stavis.

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3812.768 - 3818.317 Scott Galloway

I mean, that sounds really interesting. Was NPR hosting that?

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3818.377 - 3819.92 Kara Swisher

Yeah, it's going to be great.

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3819.94 - 3821.823 Scott Galloway

We're going to talk about DEI at the Forestry Service.

3821.843 - 3823.966 Kara Swisher

Listen, dirty, dirty children's movies.

3824.046 - 3834.844 Scott Galloway

I'm going to see Team Scotland at the Crane Club pop-up on the Palais tomorrow at midnight. Then I'm going to the Spotify party. Who wants to roll with the dog? Who wants to roll with the dog?

3834.824 - 3854.402 Kara Swisher

I will see you in a few days, Scott. And we want to hear from you also, our listeners. Send us your questions about business, tech, or whatever's on your mind, including Scott's filthy, filthy brain this week. Go to nymag.com slash pivot to submit a question for the show or call 855-51-PIVOT or elsewhere in the Karen Scott universe.

3854.502 - 3864.831 Kara Swisher

This week on On with Kara Swisher, I talked to Harvey Levin, founder of the celebrity news juggernaut TMZ, who I adore, about its new Washington, D.C. bureau and expanded political coverage. Let's listen to a clip.

Chapter 4: What are the implications of Starmer's resignation for UK politics?

3876.203 - 3899.681 Harvey Levin

Okay. I view it as pop culture. We cover pop culture. And pop culture can be a lot of things. You know, it can be sports, it can be entertainment. And pop culture is politics, because a lot of the things that affect everybody emanates from Washington, D.C., And it emanates from the courts. It emanates from Congress, from the president. And it affects all of us.

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3900.083 - 3907.525 Harvey Levin

So they are an integral part of pop culture. So to me, it has never been a stretch.

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3908.23 - 3924.274 Kara Swisher

It's a really good interview. They had tried for years to do this. He's a great guy. And by the way, they're breaking some stories. I have to say they really are. They're like when they took those pictures of politicians during the shutdown, like Lindsey Graham with his bubble wand at Disneyland. I think they're doing an excellent job.

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3924.635 - 3941.711 Kara Swisher

It reminds me of the old Washington Post, which used to do this kind of stuff, a mix of things. Anyway, he's great. I've known him for many, many years. I like Harvey a lot. I think he's a really interesting entrepreneur in media. He's one of the OG ones. Okay, that's the show. Thanks for listening to Pivot. Be sure to like and subscribe to our YouTube channel.

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3941.751 - 3965.895 Scott Galloway

We'll be back on Friday live from Cannes.

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