Pizza and Property
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Ep 90. 100% Burns to 40% Returns! Renovating a Burn Out House - With Morgan Bushell
04 Jul 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Your first renovation is normally something you want to start small and start in a way where everything is easy to learn along the way. Morgan Bushell...
Ep. 2 Getting Your House in Order to go FULL TIME - Investor Series with Karen Baldwin
01 Jul 2021
Contributed by Lukas
If you've listened to episode 1 on the realities of becoming a full time property person and you're still pumped to tune into episode 2, then this mig...
Weekly Slice 31 TOP 4 Towns Population Growth - With Simon Salotti
29 Jun 2021
Contributed by Lukas
We all know about the "COVID migration" by now, but something that isn't as clear is exactly what places have been the most popular to shift to? We sp...
Ep. 89 Is Building Really Better??? - With Alex Fitzgerald
27 Jun 2021
Contributed by Lukas
A few weeks back we stumbled across an article that lit up the comment section with a lot of mixed opinions. Alex Fitzgerald is a 28 year old that has...
Ep. 1 Going FULL TIME in Property - Investor Series with Karen Baldwin
24 Jun 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Have you ever watch a tv show on renovating or developing and thought "That looks amazing! I'd love to do that full time" If yes, this is the investor...
Weekly Slice 30 Are You Actually Insured? - With Nick Giles
22 Jun 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Getting landlord insurance is so important for any and all of your investment properties but what are you actually covered for? We speak with Nick Gil...
Ep. 88 Making My First Million - With Sanjeev Sah
20 Jun 2021
Contributed by Lukas
The goal of making $1,000,000 is a pretty amazing one to reach by anyone's standards. Sanjeev Sah has not only reached this goal but continues to shoo...
Ep4. Faster Finance Approvals - Investor Series With Shanker Ramakrishnan
17 Jun 2021
Contributed by Lukas
How much do kids affect your borrowing power? This episode we look into two different hypothetical situations of how adding a little person into the h...
Weekly Slice 29 Is Commercial booming alongside residential? With Steve Palise
15 Jun 2021
Contributed by Lukas
The commercial property investment space may by as foreign to some of us as knowing who the president of Kazakhstan is, but that's not to say this spa...
Ep. 87 Understanding the Exit from the 9-5 The Freedom Formula With Bushy Martin
13 Jun 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Why are you investing in property? To make money right...? But how much money do you want to make and why do you want to make that much money? These q...
Ep3. Faster Finance Approvals - Investor Series With Shanker Ramakrishnan
10 Jun 2021
Contributed by Lukas
How long should it actually take to get your pre approval in 2021? What are some key points you can take away and potentially put into place to get yo...
Weekly Slice 28 Getting Offers Accepted - With Sanjeev Sah
08 Jun 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Getting an offer over the line in this current property market is more of a win then ever before. Competition is everywhere, sometimes with 100+ buyer...
Ep. 86 Disaster to Dollars - With Prue Muirhead
05 Jun 2021
Contributed by Lukas
A MUST LISTEN FOR ALL PROPERTY INVESTORS Prue Muirhead has been kind enough to kick off our case study episodes with an absolute cracker! Prue has h...
Ep2. Faster Finance Approvals - Investor Series With Shanker Ramakrishnan
04 Jun 2021
Contributed by Lukas
HOW MUCH DEPOSIT DO YOU ACTUALLY NEED? Saving up the first lump of cash can be one of the biggest barriers to getting into the property market, this ...
Weekly Slice 27 What is Game Plans? With Jordan De Jong
01 Jun 2021
Contributed by Lukas
GIVE AWAY!!! GET IN QUICK 5 FREE SUBSCRIPTIONS TO GIVE AWAY FOR GAMEPLANS.COM.AU JUST MSG YOU DETAILS TO THE PIZZA AND PROPERTY FACEBOOK GROUP TO ENTE...
Ep 85 Converting your IP to Airbnb - With Meredith Cowley
30 May 2021
Contributed by Lukas
2020 might have given Airbnb a hard time to say the least, but this money making juggernaut and all of its hosts are going nowhere anytime soon. Have ...
Ep1 Faster Finance Approvals - Investor Series With Shanker Ramakrishnan
28 May 2021
Contributed by Lukas
WHAT SHOULD YOU HAVE READY BEFORE YOU MEET WITH YOUR BROKER? Getting a leg up in this competitive property market is a massive help in anyone's book, ...
Weekly Slice 26 - Auctions in The ACT Why is this Market Booming The Most? - With Peter Walker
25 May 2021
Contributed by Lukas
If you've ever been to an auction you'll probably agree they can be a lot of fun to watch when they get going! That level of fun can quickly change th...
Ep. 84 Building a $5 MILLION Portfolio in Regional Australia - With Adam Mainey
23 May 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Regional investing often gets a bad rep in the property investing space, but today we speak with a man that has built an incredible property portfolio...
Investor Series Ep.4 The 4 Fundamental feasibilities - Subdivision - With Luke Bailey
21 May 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Have you spoken to people that have made big dollars subdividing a block, and always wondered how to do it? This investor series episode with Luke Bai...
Weekly Slice 25 - Is the Brisbane Market Slowing Down or Steaming Ahead? - With Wendy Russell
18 May 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Brisbane has always been know'n as one of australia's cities with the beautiful warm weather, friendly people and reasonably affordable house prices, ...
Ep. 83 Federal Budget 2021 The 5 Property takeaways - With Mike Mortlock
15 May 2021
Contributed by Lukas
How are the purse strings being held for Australia in 2021 and where's the money being spent? This episode we talk with Mr Mike Mortlock about the top...
Investor Series Ep.3 The 4 Fundamental feasibilities - Renovation - With Luke Bailey
14 May 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Getting to know your numbers for a renovation project can be a little intimidating for anyone that's hasn't renovated before. This investor series epi...
Weekly Slice 24 - City Apartments Investing in 2021? You should Listen to this - With Chris Gray
11 May 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Straight from an investor that has built a $20m plus portfolio mainly through investing in quality and well located apartments is giving his two cents...
Ep. 82 - Before You Invest in NDIS 5 Things to Know - With Jesse Lee
08 May 2021
Contributed by Lukas
We have all heard of the massive returns that can come from investing in NDIS (National Disability Insurance Scheme) property but is all that glitters...
Investor Series Ep.2 The 4 Fundamental feasibilities - Capital Growth - With Luke Bailey
07 May 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Everyone wants to buy a 'Good deal' but what does a good deal actually look like? and how do you work it out in a simply? This series is going to answ...
Weekly slice 23- Is There a Better Way to Manage Your Money? With Jesse Lee
04 May 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Getting all of your ducks in a row, or in this case dollars, can be a time consuming challenge for a lot of us, this episode you're potentially about ...
EP. 81 - Seven Things to know if The Banks Say NO... With Shanker Ramakrishnan
01 May 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Have you ever had a lender say NO? and maybe you thought 'That's it I'm not buying that property' In the space of property investing 'No' doesn't alwa...
Investor Series Ep.1 The 4 Fundamental feasibilities - Cash-flow deals - With Luke Bailey
29 Apr 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Everyone wants to buy a 'Good deal' but what does a good deal actually look like? and how do you work it out in a simply? This series is going to answ...
Weekly Slice 22. Is The Adelaide Rental Market still BOOMING? With Prue Muirhead
27 Apr 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Any investor that has advertised their property for rent in Adelaide over the past 6 months has noticed first hand just how off the chart crazy rental...
Ep. 80 Solving Problems That Make Millions - With Nicola Woodman & Mark Harris
25 Apr 2021
Contributed by Lukas
One of our favorite sayings at Pizza and Property is: 'Fall down 7 stand up 8' No matter how difficult a situation may get it's so important to keep p...
Investo Series Ep.4 Buying Property in superannuation - With Andre Garcia
22 Apr 2021
Contributed by Lukas
This episode we talk with Andre about setting up the right team around you to buy in your super. We talk about in detail about: - Who you need to be s...
Weekly Slice 21. Offset VS Line of Credit - With Andre Garcia
20 Apr 2021
Contributed by Lukas
After speaking with Ramon Tan in weekly Slice 19 about tax implications around offset and lines of credit I had a lot of questions come in from a lot ...
Ep. 79 From $0 to $180,000,000 in development in under 10 years
18 Apr 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Jack Gould is a man on a mission! Coming from such humble beginnings being a high school dropout to a bricky that was not happy with where his life wa...
Investo Series Ep.3 Buying Property in superannuation - With Andre Garcia
16 Apr 2021
Contributed by Lukas
This episode we talk with Andre about the power of multiplying yourself through investing in property using your super fund. This episode we talk abou...
Weekly Slice 20 Do the Olympics mean Gold for QLD Property Prices ? - With Simon Pressley
13 Apr 2021
Contributed by Lukas
It really doesn't matter if you're a sports fan or not hosting the Olympics is a pretty amazing event to return to Australia! But what are they going ...
Ep.78 Investing $550k in Each State... Where & Why - With Kent Lardner
10 Apr 2021
Contributed by Lukas
This episode came from about from Feds, one of our amazing listeners reaching out and wanting to know more about becoming a borderless investor. Feds ...
Investor Series Ep.2 Buying Property in superannuation - With Andre Garcia
09 Apr 2021
Contributed by Lukas
This episode we talk with Andre about the power of multiplying yourself through investing in property using your super fund. This is something that I ...
Weekly Slice 19 Deposits & Tax Deductions you should know about - With Ramon Tan
06 Apr 2021
Contributed by Lukas
This episode has come about after reading a post on the "Aus Property Investors" Facebook group, The post was about deposits being a tax deduction if ...
Ep. 77 Can you Protect your investment from separation? With "Meet Pay Love" hosts Zoe & Carmel
04 Apr 2021
Contributed by Lukas
"You need to know your worth" to put it so perfectly as Zoe and Carmel do, knowing not only what you're worth just as a person and what you deserve in...
Investor Series Ep.1 Buying Property in superannuation With Andre Garcia
01 Apr 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Buying a property as an investment is already a massive achievement, doesn't matter if you have 1 or 100 you're already making some financial moves th...
Weekly Slice 18 Where's Booming the Most? - With Kent Lardner
30 Mar 2021
Contributed by Lukas
We all want to find the best growth for the investment property we choose, but how do you find that and where is booming the most right now? We have o...
Ep. 76 Mortgage Free From Flipping!!! How did he do it? With Daren Ensor
27 Mar 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Not a lot of people know this, but the roots of the word Mortgage comes from Old French, and Latin before that, to literally mean "Death pledge". In...
Investor Series Ep.4 Commercial Property Investing - With Steve Palise
25 Mar 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Episode 4 of our brand new "INVESTOR SERIES" is here with Steve Palise. Last week Steve walked us through things like: What kind of documents you shou...
Weekly Slice 17 You should know about the Byron Bay Shift - With Oliver Jackson
23 Mar 2021
Contributed by Lukas
If you've never listened to an interview with Oliver Jackson you're missing out... Not only is this man amazingly knowledgeable in the property space ...
Ep. 75 Negotiating Steps to WIN The Deal - With Scott Aggett
20 Mar 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Scott Aggett is fast becoming the go to guy for Australian real estate negotiations, this is a man who has put together deals on both sides of the buy...
Investor Series Ep.3 Commercial Property Investing - With Steve Palise
18 Mar 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Episode 2 of our brand new "INVESTOR SERIES" is here with Steve Palise. Last week Steve walked us through things like, What to do if you can't find e...
Weekly Slice 16 What's Causing the Rental BOOM!?!?! With Sam Gordon
16 Mar 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Does anyone else remember that Will Smith song from the 90's "Boom Boom Boom shake the room?" Apparently the Australian rental market has it stuck on ...
Ep. 74 - 5 Properties in 6 Years! Success in Creating The Team - With Olivia Ward
14 Mar 2021
Contributed by Lukas
It's one thing to buy a property, it's another to build a portfolio, a massive amount of time effort and sacrifice is needed to create a financial ass...
Investor Series Ep.2 Commercial Property Investing - With Steve Palise
12 Mar 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Episode 2 of our brand new "INVESTOR SERIES" is here with Steve Palise. Last week Steve walked us through things like, what is "Black Soil" and what ...
Weekly Slice 15 Is Western Sydney In High Demand? - With Joel Hollings
09 Mar 2021
Contributed by Lukas
This episode we speak with a Man with over 20 years of experience in the Western Sydney market, someone that's sold over 2,500 homes! as well as gone ...
Ep. 73 How Could I Buy 6+ Properties on an Average Wage? - With Fane Levy
06 Mar 2021
Contributed by Lukas
This episode came about after we had a msg come into the pizza shed from Chris Langton, Chris wanted to know "G'day Todd, love the podcast mate real...
Investor Series Ep.1 Commercial Property Investing - With Steve Palise
04 Mar 2021
Contributed by Lukas
We are so excited to announce our very first episode of our brand new "INVESTOR SERIES" Who better to kick it off than author of Commercial Property I...
Weekly Slice 14 Can Victoria BOOM & BUST Where's doing What? - With Arjun Paliwal
03 Mar 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Here at Pizza and Property we love chatting with the one half of the property nerds Arjun Paliwal whenever we get the chance. there are few that get a...
Ep. 72 Creating Wholesale Real Estate - With Jason John Byron
28 Feb 2021
Contributed by Lukas
I don't know about you but when I think of the word wholesale I think about Coles buying up tonnes of fruit and veg, or Harvey Norman buying 5000 TVs ...
Weekly Slice 13 Is Adelaide BOOMING More Than Ever? - With David Liston
23 Feb 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Little old Adelaide might be the home of big new profits... With the property market around the country performing amazingly in most areas, we wanted ...
Ep. 71 What's the Right Strategy For Me? - With Mark Shearwood
20 Feb 2021
Contributed by Lukas
It can only take a few minutes on facebook before you have an information overload of all the best strategies you should be implementing on your prope...
Weekly Slice 12 Meth Testing Property... Why bother? - With Adam Shaw
17 Feb 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Before speaking with Adam we thought meth testing was something you would only see in the worst of the worst areas... Apparently not! While it certain...
Ep. 70 Is This The Way to Find The Perfect Suburb? With Gilbert Melgar
14 Feb 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Living in the information age is amazing for so many reasons, what we can get our hands our in terms of suburb information today would have been almos...
Weekly Slice 11 Cairns Market Surviving WITHOUT Tourists? - With Shaun Craike
09 Feb 2021
Contributed by Lukas
We have been speaking a lot about investing in regional areas lately, the move away from the big smoke to an easier life where you can get more bang f...
Ep 69 How To Own Your 2021 - With Tanja Lee
06 Feb 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Setting goals at the start of the year is pretty commonplace, unfortunately the other thing that's pretty commonplace is not completing them... statis...
Weekly Slice 10 $120k Reno Profit The Final check in - With Terry Reese
02 Feb 2021
Contributed by Lukas
We hope you've been enjoying our reno check inns with Terry Reese as much as we have! its amazing to here not only is everything done and dusted but t...
Ep 68 $240k pa Cash Flow WITHOUT Borrowing! - Wayne Jessup AKA Property Bloke
30 Jan 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Having restrictions on getting into more properties is something I'm sure we can all relate to. It doesn't matter if it's not having enough deposit, o...
Weekly Slice 9 Brisbane Rental Rise update - With Nick Kruger
26 Jan 2021
Contributed by Lukas
What is actually happening in the rental market in the local Brisbane area? This week we speak with Nick Kruger principal of Your Haven Realty to get ...
Ep 67 Before you buy into Strata Listen to this - With Bryan Phillips
23 Jan 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Buying into a strata complex may not be for everyone, but if you have ever thought about investing into a building it's INCREDIBLY important you under...
Weekly Slice 8 - Biggest BOOM in Aussie History? - With Simon Pressley
19 Jan 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Are we heading towards the Biggest boom in Aussie history? If we are then what does that look like and what would make anyone think it is about to hap...
Ep. 66 Massive 82.5% ROI The Budget Reno Queen - With Michelle Lewis
16 Jan 2021
Contributed by Lukas
It's probably safe to say we all know controlling the budget is absolutely key to a profitable renovation, Michelle Lewis takes this to a whole new le...
Weekly Slice 7 - Could Pool Compliance Cost You BIG Time - Johnny Koritsa
12 Jan 2021
Contributed by Lukas
After hearing a pool fence horry story through a friend in the real estate industry, I wanted to bring some light to what I feel is a constantly forgo...
Ep. 65 The 25 Steps in Subdivision - With Peter Koulizos
10 Jan 2021
Contributed by Lukas
You Asked for it! Now it's here, the 25 steps to subdivide a block with Peter Koulizos. Peter and I talk through a hypothetical development site to sh...
Weekly Slice 6 - Reno Check in - With Terry Reese
05 Jan 2021
Contributed by Lukas
We love chatting with Terry to see how his project is coming together, this check in we find out the details of how it's all been running, what issues...
Ep. 64 House DJ to House Developer - With Dale "DMH" Harvey
02 Jan 2021
Contributed by Lukas
As a 16 year old kid Dale always had an eye for a deal, spotting an opportunity to start flipping cars so he could start making some money and build u...
Ep 63. Must know Capital Growth Projections - Arjun Paliwal
27 Dec 2020
Contributed by Lukas
The man who not only understands the data but puts it into useful chunks of information so we can all get a clearer picture of when capital growth is ...
Weekly Slice 5 - Maximize Your Borrowings - With Shanker Ramakrishnan
22 Dec 2020
Contributed by Lukas
While money will be attracted to a good deal, not everyone wants to partner up and pull a deal together as a JV. If that sounds like you and you're in...
Ep. 62 Australia's Most Wanted to Australia's Most Respected Agent- With Mat Steinwede
19 Dec 2020
Contributed by Lukas
Author of '31 Minutes' and McGrath's top selling agent with over 25 years experience in the property market...this episode we're speaking with the pro...
Weekly Slice 4 The 2021 Property Prediction - With Chis Gray
18 Dec 2020
Contributed by Lukas
Anyone that's still saying the market is about to crash might want to give this a listen... Whilst we all know there's no crystal balls when it comes ...
Ep. 61 Find Large Dollars in Little Details, Commercial property investing - With Steve Palise
13 Dec 2020
Contributed by Lukas
I think it's safe to say anyone that has been involved in the residential property investment space for a while has had the occasional peek over the f...
Weekly Slice 3 - Know What to Look For! 5 Quick Building inspection tips - With Chris Lamana
09 Dec 2020
Contributed by Lukas
Paying a building inspector can be a very important piece of the property investing puzzle, but what if there were a few simple checks you could do qu...
Ep. 60 Risk Management Tips, Former $2,000,000,000 Fund Manager - (Rasti) Vaibhav Rastogi
06 Dec 2020
Contributed by Lukas
Our chats are always good fun and interesting no matter which guest we have on the show, however it really isn't every day you get the opportunity to ...
Weekly Slice 2 - The Dollars in The Data - Mike Mortlock
02 Dec 2020
Contributed by Lukas
What are the trends in property? We can all give our thoughts, make educated guesses, and logically assume certain things will continue to happen beca...
Ep. 59 Built to Win After Losing it ALL - With Oliver Jackson
28 Nov 2020
Contributed by Lukas
Things have changed big time since we last spoke with Oliver Jackson. Going through a marriage breakdown is incredibly difficult, add to that being ma...
Weekly Slice 1- Is Adelaide in a Rental BOOM? - With Nicole Steele
26 Nov 2020
Contributed by Lukas
The Adelaide Rental market seems to be on fire!!! at the time of recording Adelaide is seeing a rental applications increase sometimes as much as 10x ...
Ep. 58 Investing with Equity Mates! - Bryce Leske & Alec Renehan
22 Nov 2020
Contributed by Lukas
With over 300 episodes behind them in their massively successful podcast "Equity Mates" Bryce & Ren jump on the other side of the mic to share the inv...
BONUS Ep. What's The SYDNEY Market Actually Doing? - With Jack Henderson
17 Nov 2020
Contributed by Lukas
Jack Henderson, is a man that lives and breaths the Sydney property market. With all the mixed information, we wanted to give you an educated opinion ...
Ep. 57 Future Rent... What's that? - With Godfrey Dinh
14 Nov 2020
Contributed by Lukas
It's not every day we get to speak to a founder of a company making potentially world first moves in the property space. This chat is all about liftin...
Ep. 56 Quarter BILLION in Development Projects!!! - Simon Zybek
08 Nov 2020
Contributed by Lukas
Have you ever wanted to take on your own development project? This episode we talk to the man who has completed over $250,000,000 worth of development...
Ep. 55 From Teacher to $12,000,000 Portfolio - Lloyd Edge
01 Nov 2020
Contributed by Lukas
Talking to a man that has turned a very modest teacher's salary into a $12,000,000 positively geared property empire is not something most of us get t...
Ep. 54 Subdividing Land? This One Thing Could increase your Profit - David Hillman
25 Oct 2020
Contributed by Lukas
If you're chopping up land to sell, you always want to make sure you're minimising your risk and increasing your chance of gaining more profit. We rea...
Ep. 53 Buying Off Market Direct From The Bank -With Marc Cote
18 Oct 2020
Contributed by Lukas
Off Market is a term that feels like it gets thrown around a lot in the real estate investment space, Lots of vague generalities and big claims are no...
Ep. 52 Property Presentation for Profit - With Tia Willett
11 Oct 2020
Contributed by Lukas
The idea of renting furniture, or spending money on smells and fluffy cushions might seem like the furthest thing from investing and increasing ROI's ...
Ep.51 The Steps To Flipping For Profit - Brayden Currey
04 Oct 2020
Contributed by Lukas
Brayden Currey is a man on a mission! He worked several jobs as a teenager to position himself for big profits through renovation. Brayden shares how ...
Ep. 50 Sharing 80 Years of Investing Wisdom - Noel Whittaker
27 Sep 2020
Contributed by Lukas
Celebrating 50 Episodes could not have been more fun if we tried!!! Speaking with Mr Noel Whittaker was an incredible treat. It's not every day we get...
Ep. 49 Flipping 60 Properties in 6 Years!!! - Karen Baldwin
20 Sep 2020
Contributed by Lukas
Strap yourself in! If you're wanting to get a better understanding of how people actually flip houses for a living... You have come to the right place...
Ep. 48 Buying Properties the size of Countries!!! Olivia Thompson
12 Sep 2020
Contributed by Lukas
There are thousands of agents around the country and they all have a point of difference and specialise in some way or another, but there are very few...
Ep. 47 Quick Flips For Quick Cash - Cameron Holoubek
05 Sep 2020
Contributed by Lukas
Cameron Holoubek is a man on a mission... having flipped 7 houses in the past several years and undertaken a full scale development project, he firmly...
Ep. 46 Building a Commercial Empire! with Jay Anderson
30 Aug 2020
Contributed by Lukas
Jay has property success in his blood! Having grown up in a family with over 60 years of commercial property investing experience Jay has continued to...
Ep. 45 Splitting 1 INTO 45!!! Large Scale Developments - With Phil Charlton
23 Aug 2020
Contributed by Lukas
Talking With Phil about chopping up one single lot into 45 pieces of land, really felt like something not very many people would get the chance to do....
Ep. 44 From Immigrant to $200k Passive Income, with Andre
16 Aug 2020
Contributed by Lukas
There is something extra special about a story of a man that comes to this country with almost nothing and creates a $7,000,000 property portfolio wit...
Ep. 43 Should I buy in a Company, Trust or my Name? We talk holding structures with Corporate Lawyer Daniel Roach
09 Aug 2020
Contributed by Lukas
Talking with corporate lawyer Daniel Roach about the difference between holding structures like: Companies, Trusts and even holding property in your o...
Ep. 42 Is Big Money on The Move? Matt Sharp
02 Aug 2020
Contributed by Lukas
This was a great chat that we at Pizza & Property can't help but feel we will start hearing more and more about... the change on location importance. ...
Ep. 41 Could You Triple Your Rent!!!? Ian Ugarte Talks about massively increasing rental returns
26 Jul 2020
Contributed by Lukas
This really was a talk like nothing else we've ever had on the show before... The detail Ian was kind enough to go into regarding putting together co-...