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Planet Money

The habitat banker

20 Dec 2024

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Chapter 1: What is the main topic of this episode?

0.689 - 16.337 Stacey Vanek-Smith (Everybody's Business Host)

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17.457 - 40.29 Amanda Aronchik

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40.85 - 92.859 Amanda Aronchik

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93.039 - 108.792 Amanda Aronchik

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This is Planet Money from NPR.

137.931 - 144.654 Stan Alcorn

A few months ago, freelance reporter Stan Alcorn was in a crowded hotel lobby in Cali, Colombia. Test, test, test.

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Okay. Yeah, I was there to meet a 29-year-old Colombian who was trying to sell a new financial instrument he thinks could help save the planet. Good morning. Hello. What's the plan?

157.984 - 172.045 Stan Alcorn

The plan is to talk to clients. Mauricio Serna says the plan is to talk to clients. He's got long curly hair, an untucked green shirt, and on his phone, a list of these potential buyers. They're standing all around the hotel lobby in lanyards and business casuals.

172.341 - 177.166 Mauricio Serna

I have Sunny Pictures Entertainment, I have PepsiCo, the Rockefeller Foundation.

Chapter 2: Who is Mauricio Serna and what is his mission?

1887.185 - 1896.894 Stan Alcorn

The biodiversity credit companies packed up their giant Jenga blocks and tequila offerings, and the multinational executives jetted back to their corporate headquarters.

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And I started thinking about what this all means on the ground, in a place like El Globo. I thought back to this moment where I was standing with Mauricio, looking out over the surrounding land that straddles his family's ranch. Wow. What do you see? What I see is green rolling hills. What's actually called a green desert because there's almost no biodiversity here at all.

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1922.305 - 1937.495 James Sneed

So those like crop kind of thing that you were looking at are avocado. Those like big trees that look like a green carpet are pine trees. And all the rest is for cattle ranching.

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Avocado farms, pine plantations, and cattle ranches. Biodiversity credits haven't changed the fact that these are still the most profitable ways to use this land. With a push from government, maybe that could change? Thank you.

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1975.933 - 1986.86 Stan Alcorn

Today's episode was co-reported by Tommaso Primni. It was produced by James Sneed, edited by Jess Jang, fact-checked by Sierra Juarez, and engineered by Sina Lofredo. Alex Goldmark is our executive producer.

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This story was produced with support from the Internews Earth Journalism Network. I'm Stan Alcorn.

1992.844 - 1996.247 Stan Alcorn

And I'm Alexi Horwitz-Ghazi. This is NPR. Thanks for listening.

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